sheep

34# somewhereintime


刀唔吉倒肉 係唔知痛嘅

somewhereintime

40# Ultraman [
Personally I have nothing to do with CCP, however, my uncle had been
CCP all his life and he headed the municipal  police dispatch for some 20 years
so I have some insights  from  the Chinese government.
My bed time stories was the Red Army history instead of  fairy tales.

sheep

32# chunsh


我建議你舊片重溫
番睇第一集奪寶奇兵
福伯面對手執長劍舞動嘅黑鬼
一臉不屑咁
一槍  搞掂

somewhereintime

too bad, I dont think those students are totally without weapons(maybe a chair, a metal/wood stick, etc)
also, even if they only use fists and kicks, 1 soldier has to have the ability to fight again ...
chunsh 發表於 2009-5-28 16:05

150,000 elite troops VS 4,000 students with  some wooden sticks
It is like the Isreali  uses F16 to counter the Palestinian 's stone throwing,
yes, they are life threatened and provoked so they have all reason to defend themselves

MoiRhapsody

唔想再回，
如果真係大條道理，
洗乜成廿年都對呢個問題閃閃縮縮？？

daimo

我對老共设感情.  再者, 二十年前我也有去舉牌罵老共. 敬請各位不要罵我共狗了.  (BTW, that's just bad sport in a debate, IMO)

此帖, 一開始巳表明不是為任何一方開脫.   

但是, 我只想知道真相.  有多少人死了, 在什麽地方死, 怎麽死, 為甚麽死, 他們死前作什麽, 誰殺的?
這些都是探求真相缺一不可的元素.  若果若干年後國際法庭要查6.4, 難道我們就只用當時BBC/CNN/routers 的報導作証???? (活多了二＋年, 到今日早不会單純相信西方傳媒了) 再者, 若要公平客觀, 我就更加不能只因一方是"弱勢", "正義" 就固執地相信他們100%誠實.

ATV/spanish TV's video.  此片的真實性對我來說關乎支聯會的誠信.  失望的是, 我還未見支聯會對此有任何回應.  若果有, 請指正.  (BTW 支聯會的黎洪前言不對後語怎算??)

若果侯德健沒說謊, 那誰為他平反!?

Ultraman

40# Ultraman [
Personally I have nothing to do with CCP, however, my uncle had been
CCP all his life and he headed the municipal  police dispatch for some 20 years
so I have some insights  from  the ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-5-28 22:10

Did you mean your background/experience could be a valid evidence to prove that there were killing or no killing in the 6.4 event? How're they related?

somewhereintime

47# Ultraman
I learned something from un-circulated  internal document from CCP,
and what the CCP really thought about 6.4

sheep

Did you mean your background/experience could be a valid evidence to prove that there were killing or no killing in the 6.4 event? How're they related?
Ultraman 發表於 2009-5-28 23:45

I believe our background and experience help us to clarify whose words can be trusted, who is telling the truth. Who is misleading, who is trying to cover up something.
某程度上 不作回應 我會視為默認

somewhereintime

I believe our background and experience help us to clarify whose words can be trusted, who is telling the truth. Who is misleading, who is trying to cover up something.
sheep 發表於 2009-5-28 23:07

Agree,  actually a lot of CCP members sympathize the students,
only the hardliners should bear the blame. At least that's what I
heard from the  faithful CCP's