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believe in god

Just a question.

If someone said he believes in god, and did the "certified" process.

1. but he doesn't  go to church, doesn't read bible, or simply do nothing, will he still go to heaven.  no one really knows he is believe in god.

2.  but he still 上香, 求簽 or seeing a fortune teller, will he still go to heaven.

Sorry, don't really understand your question. Could you rephase it?

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1# tofu

We do not justify a believer based on how frequent he/she goes to church or how much they donate to church; rather, we would observe what they behave on daily basis.

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可能你既 Definition is different from him.

每人有佢自己所認知認同既神. 又或無, 又或溝通方式唔同.  認知一樣既人咪走埋一齊.

你可以唔認同你既朋友, 但沒必要懷疑. 否則 真係朋友都無得做.

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1# tofu

We do not justify a believer based on how frequent he/she goes to church or how much they donate to church; rather, we would observe what they behave on daily basis.
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-6-21 18:03


haha... that is what we exactly did -- find out the kind of person you are by observing your behaviours on daily basis...

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1# tofu

Tofu, I don't know how serious you are in knowing the answer but I'm going to reply seriously.

When a person believes that Jesus Christ died for our sins, and repents before God, and accepts Jesus Christ as his/her personal Saviour, according to the Bible, that persons sins will be forgiven by God. He/she will be called children of God. That is, the once broken relationship between man and God (broken due to our sins) is once again repaired through Jesus' death. It's not really about going to Heaven.

But it doesn't end here. God also call his believers to live lives worthy of His salvation. God calls the believers to be santified, which literally means to be set apart for God. If believing in God does nothing to your life, why bother believing? E.g., a believer might choose not to worship other gods since it'll upset God; a believer will choose to go to church to worship God, to read the Bible in order to get to know God better etc. There's a long path after the initial "acceptance" for one to be santified for God.

I hope that answers your question, if not, feel free to PM me if you wanted to chat.

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If believing in God does nothing to your life, why bother believing? E.g., a believer might choose not to worship other gods since it'll upset God; a believer will choose to go to church to worship God, to read the Bible in order to get to know God better etc. There's a long path after the initial "acceptance" for one to be santified for God.
chickenwingprin 發表於 2009-6-21 19:11

*nodd*
My name is Meow. Meow Meow~~~

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1# tofu

Tofu, I don't know how serious you are in knowing the answer but I'm going to reply seriously.

When a person believes that Jesus Christ died for our sins, and repents before God, and accep ...
chickenwingprin 發表於 2009-6-21 19:11


true,
church goer =/= necessarily a "Christian"

those who ARE experience positive changes after they believe

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thanks chickenwingprin for the info.

i chatted with my friend who is a christian/catholic?, he told me as long as you are "believer/children", you will go to heaven.  no matter what do you do in your life(of course nothing to hurt others), because god knows there is a lot of temptation in this world and he will forgive you.  he is a typical mk guy who smoke, drink, gamble, watch av.  but at least he doesn't believe in buddhism.
then he made me think of my girlfriend, who is a christian and go to church once a while, but she always go to 上香, 求簽 or seeing a fortune teller as well.  she said she feels bad when she is doing that, but at least she can 心安, since she believes there are ghosts as well.
so if i believe in jesus now, but still go to "bi"神, then i will be safe, i don't need to go to the hell la.  you know something just doesn't sound right

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Who are to to say who will go to heaven and who will go to hell?
I am just sick and tired of "Christians" who think they are agent of Jesus.

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