mcjohnjohn

仆街，

有人坐嘅鐵路唔係俾你攞來做R＆D，而人命傷亡更唔係俾你阿爺攞來玩或者出風頭、爭面子。你軟件、 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-9-28 15:56

我唔明點解力兄你成日覺得阿爺好鍾意攞人民來玩或者出風頭, 爭面子. 我更唔明一個完善既鐵路系統對中國有乜野唔好. 而家好明顯有d 野係唔完善, 諗計切掂佢law, 係唔係想成個鐵路系統打柴先開心丫?

Lik

你唔係無知既, 我相信你一定明白我講緊乜.
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2011-9-27 23:57

條仆街唔係無知，只不過係無恥嗟！

我唔明點解力兄你成日覺得阿爺好鍾意攞人民來玩或者出風頭, 爭面子. 我更唔明一個完善既鐵路系統對中國有乜野唔好. 而家好明顯有d 野係唔完善, 諗計切掂佢law, 係唔係想成個鐵路系統打柴先開心丫?
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2011-9-28 00:02

阿爺好大喜功係人所共知嘅事，我根本無須要同你坳呢樣野。而攞人民條命來校飛係客觀嘅事實判斷。正如Satil兄所講，豆腐渣、黑心食品、貪腐問題等等，每一件事都不斷話俾我地聽只要唔影響到佢政權嘅話，阿爺根本對人命有否傷亡毫不關心。

一個完善既鐵路系統對中國自然係好，但好明顯，家陣嘅鐵路唔完善不特止，連最基本嘅安全標準都做唔到。除咗譴責佢、diu柒佢、令到佢有咁樣衰得咁樣衰之外，你仲可以做乜野？因為話到尾，阿爺就係最要面子。響全世界面前丟架，阿爺先至可能會做返多少野。

-力

mcjohnjohn

阿爺好大喜功係人所共知嘅事，我根本無須要同你坳呢樣野。而攞人民條命來校飛係客觀嘅事實判斷。正如Satil兄所講，豆腐渣、黑心食品、貪腐問題等等，每一件事都不斷話俾我地聽只要唔影響到佢政權嘅話，阿爺根本對人命有否傷亡毫不關心。

一個完善既鐵路系統對中國自然係好，但好明顯，家陣嘅鐵路唔完善不特止，連最基本嘅安全標準都做唔到。除咗譴責佢、diu柒佢、令到佢有咁樣衰得咁樣衰之外，你仲可以做乜野？因為話到尾，阿爺就係最要面子。響全世界面前丟架，阿爺先至可能會做返多少野。
Lik 發表於 2011-9-28 16:18

我唔知乜野叫"阿爺", 如果你係話共產黨(我假設係啦), 我就唔覺得佢地好大喜功. 而家中國經濟起飛, 而家唔發圍真係唔知等幾時, 我相信發圍同好大喜功可能有d 聯繫, 令人會將兩者聯想起來. 至於視人命如草介, 呢一點我係認同既, 因為阿爺係以國(黨)行先, 人民係為國(黨)服務, 捐軀其實都係為國(黨)服務, 而且中國實在太多人, 俗d 講真係多一個唔多, 少一個唔少.

至於鐵路問題, 鐵路局真係難辭其咎. 不過身為中國人, 我唔贊成譴責佢、diu柒佢、令到佢有咁樣衰得咁樣衰係唯一既方法. 我天真又好, 傻又好, 如果我真係幫到手, 我覺得我會去幫手law. 指責根本對事件冇幫助的. 拿, 我唔係話你指責唔岩, 每個人都有其表達方法, 你即管繼續去做, 我覺得社會要有唔同既聲音先至健康的.

Lik

而且中國實在太多人, 俗d 講真係多一個唔多, 少一個唔少
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2011-9-28 00:45

就憑你講得出呢句說話，我地就可以睇到你對生命有幾咁唔尊重。如果真係多一個唔多、少一個唔少嘅話，點解你唔第一個死撚咗佢？

我呢句其實可以再講得惡毒好多，不過我唔係好似你咁，因為我尊重生命。

-力

rockypath

I wonder whether there is a serious design flaw of the controlling system. We cannot expect the signaling system working perfectly at all time and it will break down at some point some time. It is inevitable.

A false-safe mechanism must be in place even if the train is operated manually. The control board should be able to monitor the exact position of every train at any time. A device on board must be able to give warning to the drivers of two trains when they get too closed to each other even when the  power on train is down (like what is equipped on an aircraft)     

I just cannot understand how can an accident like this could happen under the technologies we have today.

Lik

Of course there is a serious design flaw la, bun 7. What train signalling system in the world would default everything to green light when there is a system failure? 咁撚勁嘅設計，真係只有天朝先至做得到！

-Lik

peter236

There may be nothing wrong with the design of the signal system.
Some people say there is a quality issue.

Design and reliability are two different things.
A signal system with a very good design, can still fail from time to time. The important thing is to make sure the procedure of dealing when a failure occurs, e.g. manual control at at slower speeds.

The subway was under manual control at that time. But the driver of the second train made a mistake of not stopping in time.

news

as rocky said..the main control centre should be able to tell if the 2 trains are too closed coz they are supposed to know which trains are where exactly

rockypath

Of course there is a serious design flaw la, bun 7. What train signalling system in the world would  ...
Lik 發表於 2011-9-28 11:48

Bun 7 Lik.  Learn how to read human words first before barking.

What I said is the controlling system and signalling system is just part of the bigger system controlling the operation of the train network.

Your computer science degree did not give you the ability to understand this?

What a bun 7.

rockypath

as rocky said..the main control centre should be able to tell if the 2 trains are too closed coz the ...
news 發表於 2011-9-28 12:29

That is something does not sound right to me.