Ultraman

原帖由 Traum 於 2008-5-14 23:47 發表

鹹蛋超人，

5集裡面，第一集係 overview，第二集講女人，第三集講老人家，第四集講小朋友，第五集講男人。無錯，節目裡面無認真講過年輕人既貧窮問題，但佢地要面對既困難，你唔多唔少都可以從第 4集裡面想像得到。小學生升中，要面對 ...

Just wanna let you know, I am not feeling no mercy to those poor people (and actually I'm not a rich one). But as the video mentioned, there is 1 of every 5 people who is poor! (doesn't mean the 4 out of 5 are super rich). I believe most rich people's money were not felt from the sky above, they all had paid for their price behind. Even those poor people also have touching stories behind, tell me how can you make the 80% richer people to feed the 20% poorer ones unconditionally? And think about this, if you are one of the rich people, and the government wants to charge high tax on you all because of to use your money to feed those poor, what would you feel?

mcjohnjohn

原帖由 Traum 於 2008-5-15 15:47 發表
5集裡面，第一集係 overview，第二集講女人，第三集講老人家，第四集講小朋友，第五集講男人。無錯，節目裡面無認真講過年輕人既貧窮問題，但佢地要面對既困難，你唔多唔少都可以從第 4集裡面想像得到。小學生升中，要面對沉重既課內外活動費用。中學生想去升學，四年之後要背負起兩萬幾、三萬銀既債務。佢地，又係咪你所講既 extreme case 呢？

小弟讀完三年大學之後, 共欠政府八萬幾蚊~ (當然係港紙啦)
仲記得讀完分開五年還, 每三個月四千幾蚊既日子. 冇香港政府既支持, 小弟一定冇能力讀大學.
小弟覺得, 年輕既一代, 只要有幹勁, 有抱負, 有負出, 就好有機會成功! 呢個就係小弟覺得香港係一個福地既原因~ 呢個世界上有好多地方, 根本你點努力都冇辦法出頭既.

原帖由 Traum 於 2008-5-15 15:47 發表
有唔少既赤貧人士，佢地以前係有份建設香港既中流砥柱。無錯，佢地可能一直係社會既機層人士，但咁並唔可以抹殺佢地對社會所作出過既供獻。好喇，依家佢地老喇，我地社會係咪用貧窮去答謝佢地以前所付出既呢？

如果佢地曾經係香港既中流砥柱, 佢地點會係赤貧? 87, 97 炒輸哂股票? 後生賭馬輸哂副身家? 小弟覺得壯年既時候係要plan下自己老左點算. 如果明知老左有人養, 小弟都會趁段生駛哂d 錢, 老左冇錢都有人照顧. 但係呢個世界又點會有咁著數既事呢?

布小熊

雖然用中流砥柱來形容佢地以前既身份唔係錯，但實用基層人士或者草根階層來形呢班人就更加合適。我唔敢話赤貧人士裡面無人爛賭定係點，但普遍既基層人士／草根階層既生活只能夠餐飲餐食餐餐清。唔好話佢地，就算小弟自己，勉強都算係中產，但每個月儲到既錢咪又係得果雞碎咁多？儲唔到錢，又係咪完全係佢地既錯？

You have to notice that HK went thro a very drastic change... almost ALL manufactory disappear in the early 90s. I believe a lot of the elderly back then lost their jobs (they were silked workers back then.... but their silk were no longer needed). And think about wages back then when these elderly were young. ppl earn less than $100 HK a month! How much can you save up for their retirement? Unless they have kids that are capable to support them, it's hard for them to save enough for their retirement.

shutterbug

Elderly skilled workers were making $100 per month?  When was this, in the 50's or 60's????

布小熊

yes 50 or 60's... that was in the interview. That was the old man's golden years.

大C姐

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2008-5-15 01:17 發表

小弟讀完三年大學之後, 共欠政府八萬幾蚊~ (當然係港紙啦)
仲記得讀完分開五年還, 每三個月四千幾蚊既日子. 冇香港政府既支持, 小弟一定冇能力讀大學.
小弟覺得, 年輕既一代, 只要有幹勁, 有抱負, 有負出, 就好有機 ...

QUOTE 錯。

[ 本帖最後由 大C姐 於 2008-5-15 15:22 編輯 ]

大C姐

點解赤貧﹖所為一百萬人的故事﹐每個人都有因由﹐唔係一定炒樓炒股票或者後生唔勞力所致。所以你甘講好唔負責任﹗有D人做地盤﹐正常收入但係突然外盤無得開工﹐每個月靠老本養家﹐一般家庭點會有甘多積蓄﹖又有D老人家為洗晒D錢落醫療手術費﹐亦有D女人俾男人扼爭人一身債。你可以話呢班蛋散唔好彩﹐但係呢D遭遇係好平常唔代表唔需要人哋幫助/關懷。你呢D心態就正正係D囉綜援既受訪者話俾人歧視。

mcjohnjohn

原帖由 Traum 於 2008-5-16 00:19 發表

我呢度講錯左，係每年要兩、三萬學費，再加兩、三萬生活費，對一個貧窮學生來講，呢全部都要問政府借，綜援唔會幫手。四年大學加埋就變左欠落 24萬銀既債務，而且仲要再加息，而息口仲要由借錢果日開始計。我地 Canada Student Lo ...

都係錯. grant係唔駛還既, 如果full grant就夠cover哂所有學費(小弟試過full grant). 至於loan, full loan 每年大約比40000蚊, 三年都係12萬. 分五年還, 每期大約還7千蚊左右啦. 借錢就梗係要利息架啦, 有乜野問題? 小弟記得年息係兩厘半至四厘, 都唔係好高息.