mcjohnjohn

原帖由 chunsh 於 2009-1-11 11:30 發表


really unacceptable?
I always heard some LYK always said that the people who work in Canada are more in slacking atttiude. THis is a sterotype too. um.....where were u, Austin

stereotype is all round in the world, I really don't mind to be stereotyped when they are discussing my 八大惡劣特徵.
up to now, I have all 八大惡劣特徵 in the vote la. 真係十惡不赦, 死有如辜~

mcjohnjohn

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-11 16:06 發表

You disagree because you had gone thru it. But then, this implies it is like a "must go thru stage" for all Christians? That means all these 8 points are somehow valid, at least in a certain stage.

勁!
閣下好有捉字瘙既天份, 係唔係法律界工作? 唔係既話好似有少少浪費.

mcjohnjohn

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-11 14:00 發表
Moreover, how if I open a thread and say: "Most (or even all) Christians are kind people" and "Most (or all) Christians feel more mercy"? Would you (people) say I'm stereotyping and stop me saying that? People (maybe especially most Christians) just want to hear nice comments, they just bounce back all the negative even it's constructive comments. 問心la!

問心? 你個心同其他人既心一定有唔同, 個個人既心都會唔同啦. 小弟覺得一定有人樂於聽negative comment, 呢個世界上乜野人都有, 正如小弟都相信一定有基督徒殺人放火同姦淫虜x的. (唔識打個x字)

Austin

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-10 23:00 發表

I wonder if you know the meaning of stereotyping? Stereotyping means all of a kind, which I changed to most of a kind already, means not stereotyping.

Moreover, how if I open a thread and say: "Mos ...

Stereotype is simply a generalization opinion of a group of people.  Whether it's "all" or "most", it's still generalizing them.

I'm sure if someone post a topic generalizing Christians as goodie do-gooders, people like yourself and Chunsh would jump in and argue the point.  So no difference here.

For me, I think it's okay to talk about the bad things, but don't stereotype, talk about it case by case.

Austin

原帖由 chunsh 於 2009-1-10 20:30 發表


really unacceptable?
I always heard some LYK always said that the people who work in Canada are more in slacking atttiude. THis is a sterotype too. um.....where were u, Austin

I didn't respond to those comment has nothing to do with whether stereotype is acceptable or not.  I don't read all post you know.  

I can tell you now, it's still unacceptable.

Ultraman

原帖由 Austin 於 2009-1-11 05:43 發表


Stereotype is simply a generalization opinion of a group of people.  Whether it's "all" or "most", it's still generalizing them.

I'm sure if someone post a topic generalizing Christians as goodie do-gooders, people like yourself and Chunsh would jump in and argue the point.  So no difference here.

For me, I think it's okay to talk about the bad things, but don't stereotype, talk about it case by case.

How about I say "All cats like to eat fish" and "Most dogs will obey/listen to their owners"? Am I still stereotyping? Only because you people think those 8 things are not really existing at all. Or how about I say "1 out of 10 Christians have these 8 things" or "8 out of 10 Christians have these 8 things"? To you people, I'm still stereotyping, all because of you guys don't want to face the truth to non-believers' eyes.

Of course, even I say there is only a few Christians have these 8 things in the whole world, there must be "someone" coming up and deny it. And that "someone" is very likely a Christian but not non-believer. Why? Cuz only people in that particular group will defend. Just like your comment, you don't think there will be a Christian saying "no, Christians are not kind and mercy" but only non-believers will. This kind of saying other people are stereotyping all because of certain people don't want to face the truth, not because of whether the issue is stereotyping or not, which it is always an excuse.

Ultraman

As BG mentioned, why there are some of these 8 characters have a lot less votes than others if people are stereotyping? Why the lowest has just 1 vote but the highest could up to 17 (up to now)? People can simply pump up everything up to a their happy level if they only want to against and hate all Christians. Yeah, constructive comments could be harsh and mean, and people don't want to listen is also very normal. But you just can't deny the truth.

chunsh

原帖由 Austin 於 2009-1-11 06:43 發表
I'm sure if someone post a topic generalizing Christians as goodie do-gooders, people like yourself and Chunsh would jump in and argue the point.  So no difference here.

now that is a sterotype
u didnt read all my posts
whatever.......

Austin

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-11 08:57 發表

How about I say "All cats like to eat fish" and "Most dogs will obey/listen to their owners"? Am I still stereotyping? Only because you people think those 8 things are not really existing at all. Or  ...

Yes, that is still stereotyping.  My cats don't like to eat fish.  And I know many dogs don't obey to their owner.  So what make your opinion the "truth" and mine is not?

Look here, I am not denying those things and those Christians exist.  Of course they do, but to say most Christians are that way is irresponsible.  There are over 8 million Protestants in Canada alone, so how many you've come across to come to the conclusion that most Christians are how you described.

And let me make it clear to you, I'm not a Christian.  I'm just sick of those anti-christians finding any and every way to attack people.  Just like I'm sick of those anti-gay or racist attacks.

If you want to post your experience, that's fine, to stereotype a group of people is wrong.

Austin

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-11 09:25 發表
As BG mentioned, why there are some of these 8 characters have a lot less votes than others if people are stereotyping? Why the lowest has just 1 vote but the highest could up to 17 (up to now)? Peopl ...

Because voters are probably voting based on their feeling of that group of people, not necessaily having ATTACK in mind.  

The funny thing is, if like some people believe, that LYK are mostly Christians, and if Christians can't accept "the truth", then how come the highest vote isn't "none of the above"?