Ultraman

原帖由 Austin 於 2009-1-12 03:36 發表


example: There are 10 apples on my table, 9 in red, and 1 in green.
I would say "Almost all the apples on my table are in red".
Question: Am I stereotyping?
Answer: No, you are not stereotyping bec ...

Yes, both of us try to make solid and valid examples that are "countable".

However, how to describe some/many cases that are very general and popular in some/many people's mind? Such as, can people say "MOST mothers love their kids", "most dogs love to chew bones", "most cats love to eat fish",...etc, are these still stereotyping? Since people can't really count how many mothers, dogs and cats in the whole world, they can't give these kind of "opinion"? So people should answer "oh, I don't know if mothers would love their kids", "I'm not sure if dogs love to chew bones".... ? This is what I said you are making things more complicated and turning nothing to problems. Don't just object and argue because you just want to.

Ultraman

Just want to satisfy some of the LYK here. Now the title is: 有些基督徒的八大惡劣特徵.
How many are there is that "有些"? it could be "just a few" to "quite a few", depends on individual's own experience. Since I think it is very unlikely all the votes were towards the same person, so I think at least there should be more than one Christian who have these 8 characters. And since LYK is just a very tiny forum compare to all others in the whole world, and all forums are just a shrink size of the real society/world,  how many of these Christians are actually there in the whole world? You decide.

Austin

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-12 11:45 發表

Yes, both of us try to make solid and valid examples that are "countable".

However, how to describe some/many cases that are very general and popular in some/many people's mind? Such as, can people ...

So based on what you said, people who would say that it's stereotyping to say "blondes are stupid" is just making things more complicated and turning nothing to problems.

Ultraman

原帖由 Austin 於 2009-1-12 11:10 發表


So based on what you said, people who would say that it's stereotyping to say "blondes are stupid" is just making things more complicated and turning nothing to problems.

Now you're stereotyping all cases and situations are the same.

chunsh

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-12 12:44 發表

Now you're stereotyping all cases and situations are the same.

ai...I would just give it up

Littleprince

我認識很多人都對基督徒有很多不滿﹐可是要他們說“大多數基督徒都是不好”﹐或“耶穌/耶和華/基督教不好”﹐他們卻不同意﹐我都不明白點解呢﹐也許﹐他們心底也是有仔細想過的﹐而不是盲目和應別人吧。。。

可是不管如何﹐我們知道無論信與不信的人﹐都是神所造﹐神所愛的﹐無論兒子如何不認父親﹐父親一樣以無私的愛愛他﹐那是因為他是父親所愛的兒子啊﹐我們要學效父親﹐所以都只會為不認父親的婉惜概嘆﹐卻不會恨他們﹐相反﹐希望他們有朝一日醒覺過來﹐重新認識造他又一直以不變的愛愛他的父。。。

Austin

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-12 12:44 發表

Now you're stereotyping all cases and situations are the same.

That's right.  That's because I'm applying your logic.

Actually, I'm just saying this case is the same as the "blonde" case.  I didn't apply to all cases

[ 本帖最後由 Austin 於 2009-1-12 15:31 編輯 ]

Littleprince

小女子對於 #1) “盲目” 這詞很有興趣。。。有趣的是﹐何以見得基督徒是“盲目”信仰呢﹖怎知我們不是再三的反覆去求證的呢﹖反之﹐那些不求證據便說別人“盲目”的似乎還比較“盲目”吧﹖

我建議虛心求證的﹐與不少於 50 個基督徒談談 (RANDOM PLEASE)﹐看看他們到底是否“盲目”﹐是否曾經有去找證據支持自己所信的﹐得到數據後請與我們分享

chunsh

原帖由 Littleprince 於 2009-1-12 13:14 發表
我認識很多人都對基督徒有很多不滿﹐可是要他們說“大多數基督徒都是不好”﹐或“耶穌/耶和華/基督教不好”﹐他們卻不同意﹐我都不明白點解呢﹐也許﹐他們心底也是有仔細想過的﹐而不是盲目和應別人吧。。。

可是不管如何﹐我們知道 ...

I disagree about the part about the love of god; however, I think this is a good attitude for believers. And I think if all believers can possess such attitude, the chances that having long pages of fire and this kind of vote would be largely reduced.

afterall, it is impossible to unify everyone's beliefs/moral opinions in the world. You tihnk your god is good? cool, I disagree but I will respect, but I want to be treated the same way

Ultraman

原帖由 Littleprince 於 2009-1-12 12:14 發表
...可是不管如何﹐我們知道無論信與不信的人﹐都是神所造﹐神所愛的﹐無論兒子如何不認父親﹐父親一樣以無私的愛愛他﹐那是因為他是父親所愛的兒子啊﹐我們要學效父親﹐所以都只會為不認父親的婉惜概嘆﹐卻不會恨他們﹐相反﹐希望他們有朝一日醒覺過來﹐重新認識造他又一直以不變的愛愛他的父。。。

To Christians/believers, all human are made by God; but to non-believers, not all of them think in this way.
From Christians/believers POV: no matter people believe it or not, all human made by God.
From a beef lover's POV: no matter you like it or not, beef tastes the best.
From a gay: all women cannot be loved.
Are these true?