daimo

SB, rockypath,

You are plain wrong.

They have been putting up disclaimer all over the place (see the first few pages) that they are not attacking/against... Christianity/Bible .... not ALL Christians ...

go figure.

    

rockypath

原帖由 daimo 於 2009-1-15 13:12 發表
SB, rockypath,

You are plain wrong.

They have been putting up disclaimer all over the place (see the first few pages) that they are not attacking/against... Christianity/Bible .... not ALL Christian ...

Can I put up a disclaimer and then insult someone?

They have been making generalization and just tried to defend themselves that they are not against "ALL" Christians when they had difficulties to backup their points.

But anyways, I just let them entertain themselves.

daimo

原帖由 rockypath 於 2009-1-15 13:27 發表


Can I put up a disclaimer and then insult someone?

No.  You can't.  at least if you have the conscious to admit that you are insulting someone.

Anyway, they are not insulting someone/all Christians/Christianity/Bible because they are either

a) just having a positive debate
b) just a few non-believer having some simple questions
c) just want to know how people think
d) just have points in their argument (while whoever don't agree with them don't have any points)

forgot about

e) just knowing the FACT.  (while whoever don't agree with them just don't know the FACT or don't want to face the FACT).

[ 本帖最後由 daimo 於 2009-1-15 13:51 編輯 ]

chunsh

原帖由 shutterbug 於 2009-1-15 13:08 發表

It's REALLY funny...have you seen us open a thread attacking other's religion?  Think what you did before you say something to insult yourself.

did u see I said the teachings? not you, shutterbug?
in the bible, all other religions are faked and evil, am I wrong?
do u dare say that according to bible, there is ANY religion other than christianity is real, justice as in you guys' point of view, as christianity?

chunsh

原帖由 rockypath 於 2009-1-15 12:42 發表


Every religion has its own teaching and standard. You can criticize Christianity more than other religions maybe it is because Christianity has more exposure than the others in your life experiences ...

at least I never ever heard any other religions' followers said in front of me like "our god love you, but u have to obey my god, otherwise, u would be burn in eternal inferno. What? you have religion? come on, its an idol only, its fake and its actually created by our fallen angel, Satan".

not you guys, but some other followers did said that thing to me. and this is a thread that talking about the most common annoying followers habits that we, the non-believer, encountered before.

chunsh

原帖由 daimo 於 2009-1-15 13:37 發表
Anyway, they are not insulting someone/all Christians/Christianity/Bible because they are either

a) just having a positive debate
b) just a few non-believer having some simple questions
c) just want to know how people think
d) just have points in their argument (while whoever don't agree with them don't have any points)

thank you so much!

shutterbug

原帖由 chunsh 於 2009-1-15 14:26 發表


did u see I said the teachings? not you, shutterbug?
in the bible, all other religions are faked and evil, am I wrong?
do u dare say that according to bible, there is ANY religion other than christi ...

Doesn't matter if you said teaching or not...same question still goes: "Have you seen us open a thread attacking other's religion?".  Although I believe that there's no other true God besides Christ, does that mean I will/have to open a thread to attack others?

MSN04

原帖由 rockypath 於 2009-1-15 12:42 發表


Every religion has its own teaching and standard. You can criticize Christianity more than other religions maybe it is because Christianity has more exposure than the others in your life experiences ...

Why you say that i question Christianity more than other religions?  YOu know me in real life?  Stick to the topic dude.  As you have said, introducing some nonsense doesn't make your arguement more valid.

For the 2nd part, yes, I will.  
And get it straight, I don't just question (note: i am not using the word attack/attach) Christian.
I will question any religion that tries to strongly address how good they are when they have this heaven/hell concept.  Esp. those with the BS like "love is unconditional" while they are contradicting themselves.

daimo

SB,

Atheist say there is no God, no Christ, no Buddha, no A-lah, no Guan Yum, no Kwan Kung, no Monkey King ... no (the list can go for a few pages) .... all of the above are just made up to manipulate people.

I just don't know which one of them here are atheist.   oh wait ... that is actually NOT IMPORTANT in this discussion. alright.



go figure.

Ultraman

- I admit that there ARE nice Christians around, and I have average and close friends who are Christians. That means, I DON'T hate or attack or against ALL Christians.

- All human are imperfect. That means, all Christians and non-Christians are imperfect, and they will make mistakes. Believing in Jesus/God/Christianity doesn't necessary change people to better people. Therefore, there are non-Christians and Christians being selfish and greedy, steal, rob, rape, kill, having same sex relationship/marriage...etc.

- Even said so, there is a "handbook" (bible) for believers to follow, to give them an idea what a believer/Christian should do and not to do. Provided that the bible tells people to do good things but not bad things. So theoretically, believers/Christians should have a better personality and they should do better things than non-believers/non-Christians.

- We know there was the 双氧水事件, and now this 蘇穎智 case, which they don't represent all believers/Christians, but how they upset and disappoint people is a fact. However, why there are so many believers/Christians chose to listen and follow them?! Shouldn't all individual believer has own ability to define and judge what's right and what's wrong?!

- As someone clarified, there is only one big sin stated in the bible, that is the sin of people refusing/ignoring God. In other words, ain't all the sin of being selfish and greedy, stealing, robbing, raping, killing, and having same sex relationship/marriage the same "ranking"? Why not Christians stand up to against people being selfish and greedy, steal, rob, rape, kill...... etc but only have the biggest reaction about same sex relationship/marriage or anything related to same sex matter?