mcjohnjohn

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-19 17:13 發表
Interesting question....
In which of the following(s) a Christian might be sent to hell by God? Or none?

a. 淨打飛機
b. 淨睇AV
c. 又睇又打

(*Similar situations apply to female, just a different ter ...

要我估既話, 為左自己既幸福著想, 我希望3個都唔駛落地獄.
其實你問黎有乜謂, 我地又唔係神, 我點知佢點諗woh...

mcjohnjohn

原帖由 MoiRhapsody 於 2009-1-19 17:18 發表
講多無謂,
有教信左唔洗DIE包掂!!!

唔die 好慘架...
我姨媽而家o係老人院, 成日24小時插住條喉, 食唔到野, 講唔到野, 連仔女都唔認得.
真係生不如死的.

Ultraman

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2009-1-19 01:15 發表


因為我信神, 也信科學, 亦信自己個腦.
我唔係話入面既野not true, 只不過有d 野應該唔會咁straight forward啦.
創世紀入面有一幅"世界圖", 好得意架, 我小學既時候都知道係唔正確了.
聖經點解有唔正確既野呢? 係唔 ...

Not to keep challenging you, mcjohnjohn, I just find you are different from many other believers.
I agree, such as 水變酒, 五餅二魚, they're kind of "miracles" and so some people deadly believe it and some don't. But regarding for "God made human in the 6th Day" is a kind of documentary data, how come you don't believe it?? In other words, you think God didn't made human in the 6th Day but maybe in the 3rd Day or 5th Day? So the 6th Day was just a wrong record or something? Mind to share?

samsung

原帖由 chunsh 於 2009-1-19 00:59 發表

串緊我wor
我係話佢呀﹐但我speak with facts(facts that are true or not, just depends
on other people point of view) and without personal attack tone wor
甘佢講o羊"我都唔記得他死時你就在他床邊 "??
hm.. ...

男人老狗學似你做人甘小氣就唔Q好學人回應喇。

Ultraman

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2009-1-19 01:18 發表


要我估既話, 為左自己既幸福著想, 我希望3個都唔駛落地獄.
其實你問黎有乜謂, 我地又唔係神, 我點知佢點諗woh...

How about, let's quote some other examples:

- if a Christian kills and confess to God, would he/she go to hell?
- if a non-believer kills and then believe in God after and also confess to God, would he/she go to hell?
- if a non-believer never kill, but he/she didn't believe in God, would he/she go to hell?

chunsh

原帖由 samsung 於 2009-1-19 02:26 發表

男人老狗學似你做人甘小氣就唔Q好學人回應喇。

did u read my post? I said I am not angry, its just ........ai....whatever la, Saint samsung

mcjohnjohn

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-19 17:21 發表
Not to keep challenging you, mcjohnjohn, I just find you are different from many other believers.
I agree, such as 水變酒, 五餅二魚, they're kind of "miracles" and so some people deadly believe it and some don't. But regarding for "God made human in the 6th Day" is a kind of documentary data, how come you don't believe it?? In other words, you think God didn't made human in the 6th Day but maybe in the 3rd Day or 5th Day? So the 6th Day was just a wrong record or something? Mind to share?

第六日造人~
科學角度諗下, 究竟人類o係幾時出現? 係唔係突然之間出現呢? 飛禽走獸又幾時出現呢? 係唔係早人類幾日呢? 科學上黎講, 一定唔成立. 因為飛禽走獸同人類既出現相距似乎就唔只幾日.
聖經係邊個寫? 係神寫? no, 我相信係神教人寫既. 但係以當時人既智慧, 應該冇可能想像到有進化論. 人就揣測神既意思, 再用自己既智慧去寫出神既話. 試問人能完全明白神既意願嗎? 我覺得未必law.
咁既然係人寫, 聖經上又有好多野未必係arm, 咁點解要信呢? 其他人我唔知, 我信, 係因為我信耶穌基督從死者中復活, 拯救我地, 仲要o係三日後升天~
我係唔係親眼見? 唔係~ 好多野我都唔可以親眼見... 如果可以見到耶穌, 我願意放棄哂我所有既野(最好可以留番d 家人比我丫唔該).

如果你覺得咁係盲目既話, 咁我真係好盲目.
幸運的事, 我能夠從我這盲目的信仰中找到神對世人的愛.

mcjohnjohn

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-19 17:28 發表
How about, let's quote some other examples:

- if a Christian kills and confess to God, would he/she go to hell?
- if a non-believer kills and then believe in God after and also confess to God, would he/she go to hell?
- if a non-believer never kill, but he/she didn't believe in God, would he/she go to hell?

答之前要澄清, 小弟唔係神既代言人, 只係想講下自己既意見.
1. 如果此人真心悔改, 神係會原諒佢既. 真唔真心神會知.
2. 同上
3. 佢死左之後見到天主, 而佢都唔信既話, 我覺得佢會上唔到天堂的. (如果我o係天堂而有能力既話)但我一定會不厭其煩, 就算比佢打又好, 鬧又好, 我都會叫佢信天主的, 因為我想人人都可以得救.

mcjohnjohn

原帖由 chunsh 於 2009-1-19 17:31 發表

did u read my post? I said I am not angry, its just ........ai....whatever la, Saint samsung

chunsh兄, 唔好理啦, 我都覺得你冇嬲~

Ultraman

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2009-1-19 01:48 發表


第六日造人~
科學角各諗下, 究竟人類o係幾時出現? 係唔係突然之間出現呢? 飛禽走獸又幾時出現呢? 係唔係早人類幾日呢? 科學上黎講, 一定唔成立. 因為飛禽走獸同人類既出現相距似乎就唔只幾日.
聖誕係邊個寫? 係神寫? no, 我相信係神教人寫既. 但係以當時人既智慧, 應該冇可能想像到有進化論. 人就揣測神既意思, 再用自己既智慧去寫出神既話. 試問人能完全明白神既意願嗎? 我覺得未必law.
咁既然係人寫, 聖經上又有好多野未必係arm, 咁點解要信呢? 其他人我唔知, 我信, 係因為我信耶穌基督從死者中復活, 拯救我地, 仲要o係三日後升天~
我係唔係親眼見? 唔係~ 好多野我都唔可以親眼見... 如果可以見到耶穌, 我願意放棄哂我所有既野(最好可以留番d 家人比我丫唔該).

如果你覺得咁係盲目既話, 咁我真係好盲目.
幸運的事, 我能夠從我這盲目的信仰中找到神對世人的愛.

Seriously, thanks to your sharing.

I agree, to look/analyst the whole bible in a nowadays scientific way, there would be a lot of conflicts and nonsense. But if to solve your doubt about the 6th Day, cuz the life of the first generation of animal and human were unknown and could be widely various, and the bone (and other evidence) had been dug out by scientists might not be the first generation (or the same period of time), so we can't be sure the exact time when all animals and human being first exist.

As you said, "聖經上又有好多野未必係arm", and this is also what many people (mainly non-believers) think. Different people have different preference, some will believe in this God even they don't believe in the whole bible (just like you do); some will not believe in this God (and the whole religion) cuz they think there is something not right; some think the whole bible is the truth and only truth and some think the whole thing is just BS.
I know you're not blindly believing, which is good, you know what you're believing, unlike many others.