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作者: vilium 時間: 2010-7-27 10:07 標題: 反對後浪 DJ 要比學費

請人比培訓人地﹐理所當然﹐點解要比學費? 就算要比學費﹐你有名人嗎? 師資優良嗎? sorry, 唔覺得 lor。如果唔需要比學費﹐為左興趣去上堂﹐之後一星期做 2 hr show﹐我都無所謂。但係要交學費﹐不如去搵野做好過﹐免得浪費錢 + 時間。反正讀完﹐真係有得比你做﹐都係得雞碎咁多人工。

好有經驗既 Brenda 嗎? 我聽佢既 show﹐不如同阿媽傾計仲好。Brenda 只會講住系 Van. 真幸福﹐天氣好好﹐落雨 ja 車要小心﹐ja 車最好唔好講電話﹐etc. 你覺得講呢D野都要去"學"嗎? 聽講 Brenda 以前都算係名 DJ﹐但係今時今日﹐唔會再有人系 radio show 裡面講呢D阿媽會同你講既野 lor。

較可聽既節目﹐我覺得係"D態度"﹐不過都唔係次次都好聽﹐同埋有時會聽下 961 Sunday night 主要播音樂既節目。

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-7-27 10:12

How much is the tuition fee?

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-7-27 10:25

Well, no one is forcing you to join the DJ training course.
I agree that D態度 is quite good.

作者: KittyLeung74 時間: 2010-7-27 10:27

回復 1# vilium

舉手舉腳贊成 your points!

作者: Icebaby 時間: 2010-7-27 10:31

回復 vilium

舉手舉腳贊成 your points!
KittyLeung74 發表於 2010-7-27 10:27

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-27 11:55

好有經驗既 Brenda 嗎? 我聽佢既 show﹐不如同阿媽傾計仲好。Brenda 只會講住系 Van. 真幸福﹐天氣好好﹐落雨 ja 車要小心﹐ja 車最好唔好講電話﹐etc. 你覺得講呢D野都要去"學"嗎?
vilium 發表於 2010-7-27 10:07

其實去學唔係學講內容係學講野嘅技巧
不過笨蛋係一個反面教才

作者: ricrick 時間: 2010-7-27 12:03

免費？開玩笑
e + 係貼錢幫佢做野

作者: hongkonger 時間: 2010-7-27 12:30

[/code]如果唔需要比學費﹐為左興趣去上堂﹐之後一星期做 2 hr show﹐我都無所謂。但係要交學費﹐不如去搵野做好過﹐免得浪費錢 + 時間。[code]

複製代碼

你贏左個比賽所以有得做2 hr show??

作者: Arlui 時間: 2010-7-27 13:06

but i thought once you are done and you get the 2 hour show they will pay you back?

作者: Icebaby 時間: 2010-7-27 13:49

but i thought once you are done and you get the 2 hour show they will pay you back?
Arlui 發表於 2010-7-27 13:06

at $8/hr rate?

作者: news 時間: 2010-7-27 13:59

then dont go? lol

its like you going to the starbucks and tell them tim hortons is charging less so you should charge less

there are other places you can learn radio broadcasting you know

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-27 17:05

at $8/hr rate?
Icebaby 發表於 2010-7-27 13:49

重要唔準泊架車響蝕到荒
有人認低你個牌再見就抄你個牌

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-7-27 17:05

回復 12# sheep

Even park within the time limit?

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-27 17:06

回復 sheep

Even park within the time limit?
fibbi 發表於 2010-7-27 17:05

yes

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-7-27 17:09

yes
sheep 發表於 2010-7-27 17:06

That is a lie from you. I always see those DJs parking at Aberdeen.

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-27 17:09

回復 sheep

Even park within the time limit?
fibbi 發表於 2010-7-27 17:05

有人試過
星期六放假番去飲茶
就衰咗食咗一件牛肉乾

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-27 17:11

That is a lie from you. I always see those DJs parking at Aberdeen.
peter236 發表於 2010-7-27 17:09

係呀？

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-7-27 17:20

回復 16# sheep

In that case you can dispute, coz you can show the receipt from the restaurant.

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-27 17:22

回復 sheep

In that case you can dispute, coz you can show the receipt from the restaurant. ...
fibbi 發表於 2010-7-27 17:20

咁就無哂癮啦

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-7-27 17:29

回復 19# sheep

that's true. 邊個咁衰報吋？

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-27 17:32

回復 20# fibbi

被人知到佢係邊個
佢一定冇運行

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-7-27 17:34

回復 21# sheep

啲人真係無品。

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-27 17:36

回復 sheep

啲人真係無品。
fibbi 發表於 2010-7-27 17:34

為擦鞋
無所不用其極

作者: spoonek4 時間: 2010-7-27 21:17

我覺得宜家呢班後生DJ都真係幾抵得諗.........

應該係一個練multi-task既好地方.....

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-7-27 21:51

好撚貴囉.....

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-7-27 22:19

i don't know how much is the fee, but i think it is ok to charge a fee. if you want to be a model, singer or actor, you need to pay for taking related courses wor. those courses are not cheap. plus they are target the one who is interested to be a dj, not the one who just try to find something to do.

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-7-27 22:21

重要唔準泊架車響蝕到荒
有人認低你個牌再見就抄你個牌
sheep 發表於 2010-7-27 17:05

but this is just same as other malls, employee are not allow to park at the mall or park at designated area only. my friend got ticket from metrotown too.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-7-27 22:40

係呀？
sheep 發表於 2010-7-27 17:11

I always see some of the DJs parking at Aberdeen. I can recognize some of them.

作者: 大C姐 時間: 2010-7-27 22:49

應唔應該收錢同學唔學到嘢係兩回事啵。

收錢係應該﹐幫人湊仔女啵﹐請baby-sitter都要錢啦﹗

學唔學到嘢﹐呢個係個人問題。有腦都唔會去果度讀broadcasting啦﹐無腦又點可以expect人哋教到你嘢呢?

作者: chunsh 時間: 2010-7-27 23:09

我覺得宜家呢班後生DJ都真係幾抵得諗.........

應該係一個練multi-task既好地方..... ...
spoonek4 發表於 2010-7-27 21:17

one thing for almost sure: they are rich (or their parents are rich)
otherwise, with those "salary", who pay the bills for their daily lives

作者: billleevanchi 時間: 2010-7-28 00:39

無奶油做學徒要交學費遮

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-7-28 01:18

每年咪一樣有大把食飽飯等屎痾既o靚仔o靚妹貼錢做義工～～～

作者: asukai 時間: 2010-7-28 03:32

As i rmd from their open day last yr, they hv 2 rounds, the 1st round u hv to pay 2XX and if u can get into the 2nd round then u hv to pay another 2xx ~

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-28 07:08

but this is just same as other malls, employee are not allow to park at the mall or park at design ...
tofu 發表於 2010-7-27 22:21

你個 FRIEND 如果係超時就應該嘅
通常佢哋先警告再有先至會抄牌
飲茶抄牌係佢哋認得個牌就抄
而且都未超時

作者: 吳孟達 時間: 2010-7-28 09:21

本帖最後由吳孟達於 2010-7-28 10:23 編輯

Some of the comments here are so stupid...
They should NOT pay to the company who is trying to hire someone..

All staffs that I hired in my company will get paid. Even they have no experience, we will provide training and salary.

For DJ course, it seems to me that it is a recruitment process, most of them are dropped into probation period. If you success, you will be hired.

If you think about this way, then they should not be paid for the training if all teens are wanting to work for that company.
Do you like to find a job and which you need to pay them for the training first? Just my 2 cents.

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-7-28 09:36

不如話俾兩舊去媾女媾仔，制唔制？？

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-28 09:44

回復 36# MoiRhapsody

去被人溝重要俾錢就唔制

作者: 吳孟達 時間: 2010-7-28 09:46

有女媾咖咩? 咁又唔同

作者: vilium 時間: 2010-7-28 10:16

回復 26# tofu

會唔會比人呃左呀﹐做 model, singer, etc. 變左叫你比錢上堂﹐聽落係好老套既呃錢手法。可能笨蛋都係志在為廢柴公司搵D收入。

當真係有得做 2hr/wk﹐都唔方會比得幾錢人工你啦。

作者: vilium 時間: 2010-7-28 10:33

比錢去溝女? 9 成 DJ 個樣都唔好得去邊﹐不過又唔代表裡面無好女仔既。

去到要擦笨蛋鞋﹐多謝佢教你點樣講埋D阿媽同你講既說話。跟住見到"自戀基"(姓謝果位)﹐都有點想嘔﹐大隻有 muscle 就要自戀? 仲有新聞部教你點樣望住個稿讀都可以 eat screw? 唉.........話唔埋就算個 course 免費都浪費大家寶貴時間去參加。

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-7-28 10:52

比錢去溝女? 9 成 DJ 個樣都唔好得去邊﹐不過又唔代表裡面無好女仔既。

去到要擦笨蛋鞋﹐多謝佢教你點樣講 ...
vilium 發表於 2010-7-28 10:33

If you don't like it then do not go. They are not forcing you.

作者: KittyLeung74 時間: 2010-7-28 11:29

回復 31# billleevanchi

Demand & Supply theory!
No matter how much the course charges, the kids are willing to pay....they are willing to work for free....

If you ask them to pay $ for having air time for 2 hours, they even say "yes"....

作者: vilium 時間: 2010-7-28 13:07

有錢有得做﹐無錢無得做。Yes, nobody force me to go, but u can't deny it's not fair to pay for training to work in their company. 我意思係有錢果D有得做﹐唔係請有才能果D人做﹐先搞到個電台D節目咁差﹐實在係廣大聽眾既悲哀。

作者: KittyLeung74 時間: 2010-7-28 13:56

回復 43# vilium

有名你叫, "fair"柴,好現實!

"fair'柴台,唔要才.
有銀財,快上來,
有關係,快出台.

作者: Davidcopperfeel 時間: 2010-7-28 15:09

比錢去溝女? 9 成 DJ 個樣都唔好得去邊﹐不過又唔代表裡面無好女仔既。

去到要擦笨蛋鞋﹐多謝佢教你點樣講 ...
vilium 發表於 2010-7-28 10:33

Agree this local chinese radio is bull**** but eventually they can make some teenage/20ish kids to work for them for free thats true. Lots of kids here are no brainers. By the way that 2hr/wk usually hai d midnight show which no one give a **** about it. (toothpick show)

作者: 吳孟達 時間: 2010-7-28 15:20

I want to know if Hong Kong's radio stations are doing the same?

Paid Training Course --> Hired ?

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-7-28 15:24

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-7-28 15:30 編輯

有錢有得做﹐無錢無得做。Yes, nobody force me to go, but u can't deny it's not fair to pay for traini ...
vilium 發表於 2010-7-28 13:07

If you are so good, why not join some English radio stations?

作者: vilium 時間: 2010-7-28 15:26

回復 47# peter236

我無話我英文講得好 wor

作者: pkny9394 時間: 2010-7-28 17:18

Just wondering what kind of salary range for those new DJs and new anchors ?

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-7-28 17:46

你個 FRIEND 如果係超時就應該嘅
通常佢哋先警告再有先至會抄牌
飲茶抄牌係佢哋認得個牌就抄
而且都 ...
sheep 發表於 2010-7-28 07:08

no, this rule has been in placed for over 10 years. in metro or oadridge, employees are only allow to park in certain areas(usually far far away). i do believe it is apply to all/most malls and plaza. as soon as they see your car in other areas, they will give you a ticket. they said the parking spots are reserved for customers, if employees take all the closer spots, no customers are willing to come to the mall. they don't care what you are doing in the mall, because they are not able to find out. if your friend's employer didn't tell your friend, you friend should get the money back from his employer la.

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-7-28 17:49

回復 tofu

會唔會比人呃左呀﹐做 model, singer, etc. 變左叫你比錢上堂﹐聽落係好老套既呃錢手法。可能 ...
vilium 發表於 2010-7-28 10:16

if you check the major models' companies, you will see how much money you need to prepare la.

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-7-28 17:59

if you are already hired by a company, of course the company should provide free training la.
but i don't see it is a recruitment process, it is just a course to let you know what is a real dj work. after training, you can just walk away and say goodbye wor.
but if you are famous and they ask you to work for them, of course they will provide you free training and high paid la.

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-28 18:04

in metro or oadridge, employees are only allow to park in certain areas(usually far far away
tofu 發表於 2010-7-28 17:46

Yes, I've seen they do give out warnings but not tickets because after they put it on the wind screen, I went up to take a look.
If you park in the destinated area, no body cares. I think FC didn't has any parking spots for employees. Of coucrs not the managerial staff

作者: kingkong123 時間: 2010-7-28 21:43

温哥华中文电台简直就是垃圾中的垃圾

D 节目JD 一D水平都没，以为自己好有料

明明系中文电台，好好地讲中文就系啦，懒系扮野，夹杂D英文系节目到，讲一次英文又讲一次中文意思。简直就是白痴。

作者: benyaoguai 時間: 2010-7-28 23:14

this topic is just retarded.... seriously.. if you think they're expensive~ if you think they're unreasonable... just don't freaking go~
there are people who wants to chase after however kinda dillusional dreams that they have at any cost~ then just let them be~

if you think chinese radio is stupid~ don't listen to it~
if you think what you call "fair'柴 is a waste of resources and time then just completely ignore it

if all you're gonna say is just how 廢 they are and don't give constructive criticizm~
then you're pretty much just as 廢 as they are

作者: news 時間: 2010-7-29 08:03

they are putting a TRAINING COURSE with a chance to get recruited..so you have to pay for it...if they say, this is a JOB TRAINING and they will need to hire you then train you, and if they charge you for it then of course it is not fair

so if you think it is not fair for them to charge for low quality course, you can always send in a complain to the appopriate regulatory agency

作者: vilium 時間: 2010-7-30 10:41

不如支持收費果D人﹐申報閣下個人利益。

請問你會唔會係﹐閣下 / 有認識既人系裡面做 / 廣告客戶與該公司有關?

constructive criticizm? Make the course free, so everyone who are interested can join, not only the rich people. Secondly, make it a night class or weekend only course, so people can still goto work, don't need to giveup their job. Are u satisfied now?

Yes, I can completely ignore it, if there is a better chinese broadcast company other than this one. It is certainly a good thing for every Honger to have a good chinese radio station isn't it? 你地話係咪先?

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2010-7-30 13:29

I agree. Instead of criticising 廢柴, which is provably useless, just

A. Stop subscribing to their 廢 TV stations, which shows TVB HD shows in SD.... I can stream at 720p compressed w/ no commerical online and toss it to my LCD TV... why bother with $19.99 anyways?

B. Stop listening to their useless radio station. Kidd Carson in the morning if you want to take it easy going to work, or do News 1130.

C. Dun bother with employment w/ 廢柴. I know a Cantonese work environent is nice and comfortable. But knowing how much you get ripped off by them, you might as well rather get a $8.5 job else-where with full benefit/holiday/vacation/OT and no useless politics trying to fight for some $10 manager positions. This includes trying to get into their whatever DJ program, whether they charges or not.

廢柴 is a private company, not the government which you paid taxes for. Don't see why they have to answer to anyone but owner/shareholders' interests. It's a good thing for Hongers, etc arguments doesn't stick a crap to them. If they think charging for the DJ courses is a better way to do their business, let them be. If anyone doesn't like that model of business, don't do business with them (including being a student or being an employee).

No, I dont' deal with 廢柴s. I don't make money off them, nor pay them any of my hard earned money in any direct fashions.

作者: daimo 時間: 2010-7-30 14:46

不收費? I don't think they are a charity or some government funded job training facilities.

作者: news 時間: 2010-7-30 15:45

回復 57# vilium

lol you are really funny...why do they need make the course free? its a course created by the company...they can do whatever they want with it..they don't have to cater to the minority that are not 'happy' with the course offering.

what? one cant go to the course coz one have to work???? too bad...if one really want to go to the course so bad, one will make arrangement to make it work...the decision and choice lie on their own hands

there is no free lunch and there is no such thing as fairness

作者: biggie 時間: 2010-8-7 20:43

本帖最後由 biggie 於 2010-8-7 20:45 編輯

This is hilarious. No one is forcing you to goto the DJ camp. You don't need to be "rich" to afford to go sine someone has already mentioned that the course fees are only a few hundred bucks.

A lot of people who join the camp are not aspiring DJ. Many are simply doing it for fun , to socialize, or to learn some speaking skills. A friend of mine is in the camp right now. He has a full time job and has zero intentions to be a DJ. he goes to class once a week and is there just to socialize, similar to a interest course you can take at a community center.

The lack of logic from of the posters here are truly amusing.

作者: maldini 時間: 2010-8-7 23:36

I agree. Instead of criticising 廢柴, which is provably useless, just

A. Stop subscribing to their ...
BiscottiGelato 發表於 2010-7-30 13:29

How do you stream TVB programs?

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-8-7 23:47

complaining is the typical culture of the weak

those who don't complain and actually do something have already ascended to the top of the society. the rest at the bottom of the peck are left to complain

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-8 00:09

complaining is the typical culture of the weak

those who don't complain and actually do something h ...
快樂牛郎發表於 2010-8-7 23:47

That is why China is rising, while the US is crumbling.

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-8-8 00:37

That is why China is rising, while the US is crumbling.
peter236 發表於 2010/8/8 00:09

This time I have to agree.

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-8-8 08:25

第一，就算真係入左，有時段俾你開咪，你估你係咪真係有得pay?????
2-4am既時段，可以當實集，唔俾錢嘎～～

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