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have they thought about cutting welfare or EI?

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It's a matter of 習慣. There are toll roads/Hwys in Toronto for long time and people can live with that. The sudden change from free to pay is upsetting, but it's not uncommon.

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have they thought about cutting welfare or EI?
Ovaltine 發表於 2009-9-16 20:28


actually they want to increase it...
http://stay.snowinparadise.com

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It's a matter of 習慣. There are toll roads/Hwys in Toronto for long time and people can live with that. The sudden change from free to pay is upsetting, but it's not uncommon.
Ultraman 發表於 2009-9-17 12:00

yes people will get used to it but that doesn't mean it's the right thing to do

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本帖最後由 daimo 於 2009-9-17 12:47 編輯

In Toronto you have a choice to use the toll freeway (say 407) or not.  You just pay to get to places faster.

if they put toll on the 3 bridges, then we Richmond people are basically discriminated because we don't have a choice.  (don't tell me going to New West or Surrey is a choice ...)

*Robinson just said they didn't rule out putting toll on all 3 bridges ... heard it on 1470

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let's see if there is a facebook group for that or not ...

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11# Ovaltine


That's federal ...

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yes people will get used to it but that doesn't mean it's the right thing to do
shutterbug 發表於 2009-9-17 11:35

On your pov, what is "right"?
Is charging PST and GST a right thing? Then is making HST a right thing? After all, is living in Canada a right thing?

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In Toronto you have a choice to use the toll freeway (say 407) or not.  You just pay to get to places faster.

if they put toll on the 3 bridges, then we Richmond people are basically discriminated be ...
daimo 發表於 2009-9-17 11:38

Put HK as an example. The "Red Tunnel" was like "the only way" to get across HK Island and Kowloon, of course, besides taking ferries. And they charge for a fare.

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Welfare is a provincial matter, while EI is a federal matter. In the face of the global recession and widespread layoffs, the Conservatives have tabled a bill to increase EI benefits, especially for those who have been contributing to the program for an extended period without receiving benefits for it.

Toronto is different because first of all, Hwy 407 was conceived to be a toll route from quite an early stage of its construction. Secondly, alternative routes can be used with relative ease to get to the same places that the 407 takes you to. In BC, the Golden Ears Bridge is a much closer example to what Hwy 407 is. Before tolling was lifted, the Coquihalla Hwy was also somewhat similar in nature to Hwy 407.

IMO, the bigger difference is, the Knight Bridge is a major and vital thoroughfare between two tiny, but extremely important municipalities in Metro Vancouver. Its central location in Metro Vancouver also makes it a most convenient route for a large number of citizens. Tolling the Knight Bridge would be extremely unfair because it will inadvertently divert a large amount of traffic to the remaining toll-free bridges -- namely the Arthur Liang, Oak, and Queensborough, all of which are located at either ends of the city.

If Gregor Robertson is stupid enough to impose tolling on all 3 bridges between Vancouver and Richmond, he can almost certainly kiss his next term of mayorship goodbye.

-Lik

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