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That's what I said. As long as you vote ( doesn't matter blank, void or not ), they will count you as their supporter.eddie 發表於 2010-5-18 11:28

錯喇。公投五子一早就講咗支持公投議案嘅人可以投佢哋或者大專 2012 嘅人,而佢地亦只會計公社兩黨同大專 2012 嘅票作為挺公投嘅票。

-力

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因為中央阿爺對變相公投定性為一件抗中亂港嘅事,但偏偏成件事又合法合理,所以特衰政府無辦法唔依法安排 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-5-18 12:03



    thanks Lik

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本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2010-5-18 16:54 編輯
錯喇。公投五子一早就講咗支持公投議案嘅人可以投佢哋或者大專 2012 嘅人,而佢地亦只會計公社兩黨同大專  ...
Lik 發表於 2010-5-18 12:07


Don’t continue to BS, Lik. Are you still trying to fool people or yourself?

公社兩黨had made it very clear and twisted the election by setting their own way of interpreting the voting result.

They said they will measured the result by 投票率 OR the number of vote they get and they had always emphasize on投票率. Here is quoted from 生果日報 which you trust over other mainstream news papers.

“社民連昨日舉行記者會,歡迎 17名泛民主派議員早前公開呼籲巿民投票,重申公投在建制派缺席下,已由對決模式變為數票模式”.

“黃毓民指,如果有逾 100萬人投票(三成),公社兩黨五個候選人得票,與當年民主派得票不相伯仲,是極大震撼.”

So, what are the voting options did 公社兩黨 leave to Hong Kong people but two:

1)        Vote (not matter blank or someone else) = support 變相公投
2)        Don’t vote = do not support變相公投.

公社兩黨originally set the goal for投票率 is over 50%, and late reset the goal as – 25% is 大勝 and 30% is 重大勝利.

The result is that they could not even retain their 基本盤(20%).

You just act like a coward who has not gut and courage to face the reality. Don’t continue to BS and accuse Hong Kong people did not fulfill their duty as a citizen. They already cast their vote by not voting.

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都係果句,有d野,坐係到吾會自動飛埋比你,係要爭取的!
ricrick 發表於 2010-5-19 02:24

可能今次唔係香港人自己爭取, 係公社兩黨自動飛埋黎, 所以市民唔喜歡law.

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1)放出一眾走狗來對公投抹黑,又話違法,又話違憲(夢遺大師、譚肥豬、痰罐宗、流肛華等等)

全部都係佢地自己人, 幫自己人講野好正常啦...

2)全港主流傳媒(除咗生果報之外)都盡量唔報導有關公投/補選嘅事。當然,黑材料、轉移視聽嘅人同事(例如白老妖)就可以出街。候選人嘅議題、政崗、背景、落區拉票活動就通通到唔報。

呢d 補選news 唔賣紙架... 老總要谷銷量, 報導下d o靚模仲好啦. 主流傳媒大多係做生意, 為左$$$

3)更不該嘅係,除咗港台堅持要搞候選人電視論壇,其他媒體一律唔按照往常慣例來安排論壇。CCTVB唔轉播港台個論壇,而無人睇嘅亞視亦只係安排咗啲非黃金時間來轉播港台個論壇。但照道理港台其實響兩個免費電視台都應該有廣播時段。

咁又未必... 當年馬力瓜左要補選, 我都唔覺TBB有電視論壇.

4)特衰政府遲遲都唔開始對補選做宣傳,而到做嘅時候亦一改往常慣例,又刪除叫人踴躍投票嘅字眼,又唔清除議員同政黨嘅街牌。而提供俾公投五子嘅宣傳街牌數量雖然同往時一樣,但安排俾佢地嘅 location 就有咁山卡啦就得咁山卡啦,好多地方根本無人會行過。

電視廣告有叫人去投票, 冇刪除叫人踴躍投票嘅字眼, 呢點有d 失實. 至於街牌, 小弟真係冇留意.

5)因為大專 2012嘅學生係支持公投嘅,所以特衰政府就留難佢地,話佢地嘅宣傳單張因為啲芝麻綠豆嘅小事而唔合規格,唔 qualify 同政府儸免費郵遞。班大專生其實窮到燶,印完單張都經已乾塘,又邊到有錢再改印過?

咁班學生真係慘... 冇計啦, 佢地冇經驗, 出錯都難免. 其實公社兩黨應該幫下佢地手啦, 反正都叫做係自己人.

6)曾特狗打破世界傳統,作為全球第一個身為最高領導人但帶頭唔響一個政府自己搞嘅合法選舉裡面唔投票。而且除咗佢自己之外,亦連同一眾管治班子都一齊唔投票,變相對全體公務員施壓,要佢地都唔出來投票。

曾特首唔出黎投票, 真係前無古人, 後無來者... 我諗佢當呢次係公投又唔係補選, 所以就唔參加公投卦...

7)建制派自己明明想參選,但阿爺唔俾就全部跪低來杯葛選舉。但那邊湘又暗啞底走去幫白老妖等人助選。而隱形左派就除咗九龍東之外就每區都有。坊間更有傳言話某啲候選人果$5萬銀選舉按金來路不明,而毛哥亦話據佢所知,佢嘅前助理照計係應該無能力霎時間自己儸大拿拿 $5萬銀出來去參選。呢個資金嘅來源,就算唔係呼之欲出都絕對叫人懷疑。

我係建制派就唔會派人去暗啞底咁選law. 阿爺擺明話唔比, 仲o係度玩野咩... 果d 所謂隱形左派, 根本就係坊間烏合之眾... d 維園阿伯都唔係民建聯成員啦.

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一隻走狗、一個牆頭草順民...

無留意並唔代表無發生。好多野你自己唔爭取,燒到你果疊嘅時候就唔好怨。

-力

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本帖最後由 mcjohnjohn 於 2010-5-19 12:13 編輯
一隻走狗、一個牆頭草順民...

無留意並唔代表無發生。好多野你自己唔爭取,燒到你果疊嘅時候就唔好怨。

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Lik 發表於 2010-5-19 11:48

我有爭取架~
不過同你有少少唔同, 我係客觀理性咁爭取, 而且係幫理不幫親, 思考時盡量將自己處身事外, 咁先至可以客觀咁分析當下既情況.

你呢句"無留意並唔代表無發生。好多野你自己唔爭取,燒到你果疊嘅時候就唔好怨。", 我都有同身邊冇表態既朋友講架~

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回復  rockypath
That's what I said. As long as you vote ( doesn't matter blank, void or not ), they will count you as their supporter
eddie 發表於 2010-5-18 11:28



   呢個 support 係支持公投
公投 係可以投 YES 亦都可以投 NO
唔理你係投咩票 白票都係投票

而家只係有單一議題
投咩票亦都係就著個議題來投啦
所以呢次投票 理論上係公投

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我有爭取架~
不過同你有少少唔同, 我係客觀理性咁爭取, 而且係幫理不幫親, 思考時盡量將自己處身事外, 咁 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-5-18 20:12



   你 係以一個 既得利益者嘅立場 去爭取

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呢個 support 係支持公投
公投 係可以投 YES 亦都可以投 NO
唔理你係投咩票 白票都係投票

而家只係 ...
sheep 發表於 2010-5-19 13:17

唔知係唔係怕會遺憲, 今次公社兩黨自己都避開"公投"既字眼, 叫人去選既時候, 就叫大家應盡公民責任去"補選"而唔係叫大家去"公投", 搞到好似好鬼祟咁.

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