soli

That's what their motive is. Simple, greedy, and power-hungry as that.

無錯﹐班顛狗真可恥。
基本法從來無寫明幾時會有普選﹐力仔真係專講大話既。

mcjohnjohn

If a logical and sane person have any sort of understanding in both the HK and Mainland political climate, and more importantly, how the two interact with one another (eg. how in a lot of ways, Mainlanders are taking after almost precisely the same actions from HK folks), he'll eventually come to the understanding that Hong Kong will not have true democracy until the day Mainland China has that as well. As such, the two goals are really one and the same.
Lik 發表於 2010-6-11 15:12

咁你視基本法同一國兩制如廢物?
“香港實現雙普選”同“推翻中國共產黨結束一黨專政” 絕對係兩樣野啦!

Lik

In what way these two issues – “香港實現雙普選” and “推翻中國共產黨結束一黨專政” can be two the same one? Can you explain to us?
rockypath 發表於 2010-6-10 23:25

Learn to read la, Moron~

Unfortunately, Grandfather will not grant Hong Kong what has already been promised because it is afraid the rest of China will take after Hong Kong and make similar demands. And when they do, that'll spell the end of the CPC's rule.

That's what their motive is. Simple, greedy, and power-hungry as that.

咁你視基本法同一國兩制如廢物?
“香港實現雙普選”同“推翻中國共產黨結束一黨專政” 絕對係兩樣野啦! ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-6-10 23:36

Given the current realities, 一國兩制 simply does not exist in HK. Affairs internal to HK that have no bearing on national security and foreign policies -- such as the abolishment of functional constituencies -- are not decided by LegCo, but are instead dictated by 西環 and Grandfather. Tell me how 一國兩制 exists and functions in HK?! Convince me how the Basic Law is relevant at all?!

-Lik

mcjohnjohn

Given the current realities, 一國兩制 simply does not exist in HK. Affairs internal to HK that have no bearing on national security and foreign policies -- such as the abolishment of functional constituencies -- are not decided by LegCo, but are instead dictated by 西環 and Grandfather. Tell me how 一國兩制 exists and functions in HK?! Convince me how the Basic Law is relevant at all?!

-Lik
Lik 發表於 2010-6-11 15:45

Lik, as a current HK citizen, I strongly believe that 一國兩制 is running in HK. If there is no 一國兩制, 長毛&毓民 have already been sent to prison 勞改. Do you see 譚作人 case? 5 years la... if no 一國兩制, I strongly believe that 長毛&毓民 would be sentenced for more than 20 years.

Don't forget that HK is a part of China. Even China enforce the 一國兩制 in HK, for some important cases, the final 話事人 is still China.

It is the fact. HK is a SAR rather than a country.

Lik

Basic Law:

第2條：香港特別行政區實行高度自治，享有行政管理權、立法權、獨立的司法權和終審權。
第18條：全國性法律除列於附件三者外，不在香港特別行政區實施。任何列於附件三的法律，限於有關國防、外交和其他不屬於香港特別行政區自治範圍的法律。凡列於附件三的法律，由香港特別行政區在當地公佈或立法實施。

Now tell me, is the abolishment of functional constituencies a matter of national defence, foreign affairs, or matter not related to SAR internal affairs?

Don't forget that HK is a part of China. Even China enforce the 一國兩制 in HK, for some important cases, the final 話事人 is still China.
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-6-11 00:07

Did I ever deny that HK is part of China? I am simply going by the Basic Law stated in black and white. Beliefs and "interpretations" such as yours is why the democratic process is not moving forward in HK.

-Lik

rockypath

Learn to read la, Moron~

Lik 發表於 2010-6-10 23:45

Should we conduct a survey and see whether there will be more people to vote you are moron and I am a moron?

samsung

moron A moron B

rockypath

moron A moron B
samsung 發表於 2010-6-11 01:06

To be faire, maybe you can conduct the survey for us.  Moron Lik vs. Moron Rocky.

mcjohnjohn

Now tell me, is the abolishment of functional constituencies a matter of national defence, foreign  ...
Lik 發表於 2010-6-11 16:39

越黎越似之前同LYK 呢"擺佈經"人仕講野... quote 段"經文"出黎玩野, 但係其實係要睇哂成本聖經先work 架law.

而家普選就由1997之後已經知道係阿爺話事啦! 如果係完全香港人話事, 97 已經普選左啦.
呢個係現實... 講完.

rockypath

Now tell me, is the abolishment of functional constituencies a matter of national defence, foreign affairs, or matter not related to SAR internal affairs?...
Lik 發表於 2010-6-11 00:39

Do you naively believe 香港政治體制的變動 is solely Hong Kong’s internal matter?

You like it or not. The answer will be “NO” from the stand point of central government.

I think it would be interesting to conduct another survey to see how many LYK will agree with your 繆論 － “香港實現普選”和“推翻中國共產黨”是同一件事？