BiscottiGelato

Exactly. And China should do the same by not blowing their $$ away in the most expensive aerospace  ...
Lik 發表於 2010-10-4 12:41

So you think China should spend nothing on space until the average quality of life is up to western standards?

BiscottiGelato

My goodness.. can you get more ignorant than this? The healthcare reform overhaul is only a means t ...
Lik 發表於 2010-10-4 12:53

Perhaps i'm not completely correct over the medical reform bill, as I am not 100% intimate with the details of the health reform. However the socialistic policies in general as fronted recently in the US, can you say all of them were for the greater good for the country? I'd willing be the devil's advocate that more of them than otherwise were meant to win votes from the peasants, rather than meant for the greater long term goods of the country. I fail to see that cutting the NASA budget and putting funds into more socialistic programs necassarily pertains to the long term good for the US. The motivation of such budget shift should be questioned.

peter236

Exactly -- China is easily one of the strongest driving forces in the global economy right now. Ins ...
Lik 發表於 2010-10-4 11:53

So how do you explain the big military budgets of the US, Japan and India, if the sword is not important? Why do you complain that China and Taiwan province do not send warships to Diaoyu Islands? China needs big warships to counter those of Japan's Kongo class DDG. China needs a lot of warships to to patrol the shipping and oil links, and also to break the "first island chain" for unobstructed access to the Pacific Ocean.

I lectured you on this before. China's space program has big economic benefits, like the GPS, weather satellites, communication satellites, geology satellites etc. Without your own rockets launching technologies, you will have to pay other countries to do it for you. Now China can do all these themselves and can make money from launching rockets for other countries.

kingkong123

So how do you explain the big military budgets of the US, Japan and India, if the sword is not imp ...
peter236 發表於 2010-10-4 14:51

   乱讲， 中国民间保钓渔船都可以去到钓鱼台，唔同军舰就唔可以？ 你讲野都唔符合路逻辑， 中国都可以派军舰去非洲打海盗，唔通钓鱼台远得过非洲啊？

你中国政府都压制你民间保钓啦。 你讲野都废的

中国唔派军舰去系政治原因，唔系军事原因。

peter236

乱讲， 中国民间保钓渔船都可以去到钓鱼台，唔同军舰就唔可以？ 你讲野都唔符合路逻辑， 中国都可以 ...
kingkong123 發表於 2010-10-4 15:04

You stupid moron~~
It is Lik that is saying China should not flex its military muscle. At the same time he complained that China did not send warships to Diaoyu Islands. Can you understand English?

Lik

So you think China should spend nothing on space until the average quality of life is up to western standards?
BiscottiGelato 發表於 2010-10-4 13:20

Not up to western standards, but most certainly something better than what the poor rural people currently have. When you still have tofu buildings and human-caused major environmental disasters (mud slide in Western China due to shoddy safety measures), why would you want to blow millions and billions into aerospace tech?
When Japan and New Zealand have 7.x Richter scale earthquakes, hardly anyone died. Now try that in China and see what kind of casualty numbers you'll see!

However the socialistic policies in general as fronted recently in the US, can you say all of them were for the greater good for the country? I'd willing be the devil's advocate that more of them than otherwise were meant to win votes from the peasants, rather than meant for the greater long term goods of the country.
BiscottiGelato 發表於 2010-10-4 13:25

I would not object to the belief that the Obama government was doing healthcare reform with the intention of using it to keep themselves in office. However, the important thing is not their original intention, but rather the results. At the end of the day when the healthcare reforms have been implemented, the general public are the ones to reap the benefits. That is the important thing.
Now tell me, what does the general public in China gain by having the Chinese government pursue in aerospace R&D? They get to watch the non-real time launch and landing on tv, and then they get to cheer 中國加油 for a while, after which they return to their normal, everyday harsh lives. So tell me, what benefits does aerospace R&D brings to the general public when they are still living in poverty?

-Lik

peter236

Not up to western standards, but most certainly something better than what the poor rural people cu ...
Lik 發表於 2010-10-4 15:07

I lectured you on this before. China's space program has big economic benefits, like the GPS, weather satellites, communication satellites, geology satellites etc. Without your own rockets launching technologies, you will have to pay other countries to do it for you. Now China can do all these themselves and can make money from launching rockets for other countries.

Lik

You stupid moron~~
It is Lik that is saying China should not flex its military muscle. AT the sam ...
peter236 發表於 2010-10-4 15:06

Moron~

I'm saying at times when China needs to wield its military might (eg. in the case of Diaoyu Islands), she doesn't. But when there is no need to do so (bleeding edge aerospace tech R&D), they blow billions and trillions away.

Look who's the moron here, trying to twist and distort my words... Go back and lick your Grandfather's toes la~

-Lik

peter236

Moron~

I'm saying at times when China needs to wield its military might (eg. in the case of Diaoyu ...
Lik 發表於 2010-10-4 15:09

I lectured you on this before. China's space program has big economic benefits, like the GPS, weather satellites, communication satellites, geology satellites etc.

How do you find new mineral deposits? How do you make weather forecasts? All these need to be done with the help of your own satellites. Using the GPS is not free. Without your own rockets launching technologies, you will have to pay other countries to do it for you. Now China can do all these themselves and can make money from launching satellites for other countries.

China space technologies is not the most advanced or cutting edge compare with the US. China needs to just keep up for now. Like you say, if China waits for another 30 years, they would be way behind. But a moron like you will never understand this.

It was Taiwan that did not send warships to Diaoyu Island, but you dared not bash Taiwan. Taiwan has defensive agreements with the US, so Taiwan is in a better position to send in the warships. Besides, the Diaoyu Islands are under Taiwan province administration.