MoiRhapsody

你都幾得意，我都講到清清楚楚派錢同長線計劃冇抵觸，公民黨自然係要收皮。
有啲野唔撚洗畫公仔畫出腸下嘩？idiot!

chobit

IMHO, I just don't think any of the money should be spent on wealthy individual or families.

If I were to be in HK, I would probably still take the $6K, then try to use a small portion for myself an family, then spend a good potion in donation.  I am not just BS.  I currently work for a non-profit agency knowing that I am making less money than if I would to work for a normal business, I also contribute a small portion of my income to United Way, & donate items to our agency auction dinner and other events from time to time.

rockypath

你都幾得意，我都講到清清楚楚派錢同長線計劃冇抵觸，公民黨自然係要收皮。
有啲野唔撚洗畫公仔畫出腸下嘩 ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2011-3-3 00:38

Listen up, Idiot.

I tell you clearly one more time.

The focus and problems is NOT about 短線和長線計劃有冇抵觸. The problem is NOT EVERY HK CITIZEN needs this $6000 and it can be used in a more helpful and effective way to help the poor and needed.

I don't think the government should give this cash to people who will spend it on a nice meal, vocation or luxury hand bag. I don't agree with Lik's "nice meal" policy and will not believe it can help the poor and needed.

GET IT? IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. In order to prevent Idiot Lik trying to fool people again, I would like to say this to Lik to his face - people who would spend this extra money on a "nice meal" is NOT likely the people like 揀紙皮阿婆或洗碗阿嬸 but the 中產或有錢老細. Don't try to use 洗碗阿嬸 as an example to defend your "nice meal" policy and to fool readers.

MoiRhapsody

listen up , idiot,
I will tell you once and only one now.
the focus and the problem is not about "not every hk citizen needs this $6000"
Giving out cash indiscriminately as long as you have HK ID is the quickest and most effective way to help the poor and needed.
adding any other filtering procedures is a waste of time and increasing the administration fee, also it will create more chaos.
you are pretty dumb for not knowing this.
打中文啦!假洋鬼子!！！！

rockypath

listen up , idiot,
I will tell you once and only one now.
the focus and the problem is not about "no ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2011-3-3 03:45

For the sake of you idiot, I repeat once more.

Right from the beginning, I opposed the idea of giving out cash and said the surplus should be used in a better way to help the poor and need. And more importantly, invest in developing the new economy so that people who lost their job can be retrained and find new opportunities.

For the immediate short term help, the government can provide financial assistance directly to individuals and families that are needed. But not to those who will spend the money on a nice meal, vocation or luxury bags. The money they are going to receive should be spent on helping the poor and needed instead.

Additional administration cost is  your argument for giving out cash to everyone? How funny, how stupid and lack of social responsibility.

As I already said from the beginning, the government is not willing to commit into a long term plan to help the poor and needed and same as you guys - the hypocrites.

我不鄙視你還可以鄙視邊一個？

MoiRhapsody

醒下啦PK,呢個政府搞乜都死，醫保，數碼港，中醫藥中心，遊輪港，副學士，乜撚都喎晒。
派6k就最直接，唔撚洗拖，行政費你又知唔知可以高到乜撚野程度？？？lack of social responsibility？呢啲咁虛無既字都用？？你唔好去死？？呢個政府我冇份選嫁屌你!！！個social responsibility係姓曾個仆街度呀關我地撚事。
你呢條神經病人只見樹木不見森林，借啲易抽私人水，我最鄙視就係你呢種小人。

rockypath

醒下啦PK,呢個政府搞乜都死，醫保，數碼港，中醫藥中心，遊輪港，副學士，乜撚都喎晒。
派6k就最直接，唔撚 ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2011-3-3 05:14

區區六千蚊就買起你的良知和社會責任。佩服佩服。

對你呢種人，我真是無言以對。

MoiRhapsody

屌你啦，上綱上線你就最撚叻～！～

Lik

IMHO, I just don't think any of the money should be spent on wealthy individual or families.
chobit 發表於 2011-3-3 01:24

I wouldn't worry too much about the money going to wealthy individuals and families.

At the core of the issue here is fairness and equality. The government surplus came from the taxpayers, which means every HK citizen should be entitled to receive the rebates. By giving money to every person with valid HKID, it is the fairest, most indiscriminate method with the absolute lowest administrative costs.

You might say that wealthy people should not receive this money, as the money could be put to better use by the poor. But in this case, I would argue that equality and fairness takes precedence. At the very least, every HK citizen should be entitled to collect this rebate. Whether the person actually goes to collect it is entirely his personal decision. This follows directly from democratic principles in that regardless a person's background, education, wealth, etc., they should be entitled to the same number of votes. Whether the person actually exercises this right is his personal decision, but in the name of equality and fairness, he should at least be entitled to it.

Another thing to keep in mind is the value (of worth) and opportunity costs associated with collecting this money. To different people, the value of the same sum of money is different. To someone in poverty, this $6k would be worth a lot more than the same $6k is worth to Lee+x. Because of this, the incentive to go collect this money is dramatically higher for those who need this money the most. For those who are wealthy enough that may or may not need this money, it may not be worth their trouble because of the opportunity costs that's involved. And hey, if they choose to go collect it, I see it as part of their citizenship rights.

And don't forget -- for those such as yourselves (and even Rocky dude or fy-whatever as he proclaims) who believes or advocates that this money should only be spent on the poor and those in need, you are entirely free to not just talk your talk, but also walk your walk by collecting this money first, and then donate it in its entirety to a charity of your choice. Then the money would really go towards helping those in need as you have wanted.

But I very seriously doubt Rocky dude / fy-whatever will live up to his words. I await to be proven wrong, and if I am proven wrong, I will issue a public apology here on LYK to these two jokers.

-Lik

peter236

I wouldn't worry too much about the money going to wealthy individuals and families.

At the core o ...
Lik 發表於 2011-3-3 11:19

When is Canada giving you the cash that poor Canadians all need in fairness?
oops, we forget that Canada is in big debt.