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hahaha, you need to understand this. The Chinese CPU's internal microarchitecture is designed by the Chinese themselves. China does not need to buy MIPS.

It is like AMD and Intel, both are different designs, but can run the same software.

But the Japanese can't design their own microarchitecture , so they have to buy the SPARC.

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重有,用於laptop or desktop的cpu,做supercomputer… lololol,唔好笑死我啦!

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無法啦!
有d人點極都唔明,乜叫做共用概念.
買美國設計及生產的成品回去加工. 
與採用共同概念(買版 ...
satil 發表於 2011-6-20 23:01

nah, China didn't buy any American design. The Japanese have to buy SPARC.

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Chinese Godson 3c, 16-core version 32nm

http://www.eetimes.com/electroni ... x86-cores-Hot-Chips

Rick Merritt
6/23/2010 8:07 PM EDT
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Two other papers will give insights into China's growing silicon design sophistication.

The Chinese Academy of Sciences will detail the Godson 3c, a 16-core version of the China-grown processor based on the Mips64 instruction set. The new version, also known as the GS464V, includes 512-bit vector processing extensions and is made in 32nm technology.

"It's a big jump for them" compared to the previous four-core, 65nm version of Godson, said Renau.

"From what we saw in the abstract, they are aiming at video streaming and supercomputers because they are running benchmarks like Linpack and getting more than half a teraflop performance per chip with high energy efficiency for large scale systems," he said.

"I am envious they have so many students to develop a project like that," Renau added.

China's Dawning Computer recently designed the world's second fastest supercomputer using Intel Xeon and Nvidia graphics chips. Designers at Dawning said the company's next system will use the new Godson part.

In networking, China's Huawei Technologies will detail its work on a packet forwarding processor for routers that uses a novel memory technology.

"Huawei is becoming big in China, and competitive with Cisco Systems in some respects," said Renau. "This is one of the first times they are talking about something a couple years out," he said.


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China's Godson MPU aims for 28-nm

http://www.eetimes.com/electroni ... -28-nm?pageNumber=1

Rick Merritt
8/25/2010 6:40 PM EDT
A chief architect of China's microprocessor initiative described an ambitious set of new Godson CPUs including a server chip with vector processing and plans to leapfrog to a 28nm process for the next generation.

PALO ALTO, Calif. -- A chief architect of China's microprocessor initiative described an ambitious set of new Godson CPUs including a server chip with vector processing. Wei-wu Hu, a professor at Beijing's Institute of Computing Technology that has led development of the chips, announced several new 65 nm parts debuting in 2011 and plans to leapfrog to a 28-nm process for the next generation.

The ICT has developed six generations of the MIPS-based Godson chips since it started work on the architecture in 2001. Hu presented a paper at Hot Chips focusing on the latest high-end part, the Godson 3B.

The eight-core processor runs at up to a gigahertz and consumes 40W in a 65-nm STMicroelectronics process. The chip--which taped out in May and will be in silicon in September--measures 300 mm2 and delivers 128 gigaflops, Hu said.

The heart of the chip is the 64-bit, MIPS-compatible 464V core which sports a superscalar out-of-order pipeline capable of retiring four instructions per clock cycle. It supports 200 instructions to emulate the Intel x86.

The "V" in the core's name indicates the latest twist in the Godson design, extensions for vector processing.

The core extends its previous 64-bit floating point unit with a 256-bit SIMD vector unit including eight 64-bit MACs. Engineers also created a unique interface to feed the chip with pre-formatted data.

Hu provided little performance information for the part. However, he did say a single gigahertz core could decode H.264 video in 1080-pixel progressive resolution at up to 100 frames per second. The results are based on a combination of FPGA prototypes and RTL simulation.

The Godson 3B chip is currently in wafer testing. Researchers have yet to see the first packaged chips.

Hu showed several board-level examples of designs that will use the 3B in servers or as nodes in massively parallel supercomputing clusters. Earlier this year Shenzhen-based computer maker Dawning Information Industry Co. Ltd. created a petaflops system based on Intel and Nvidia processors and said its next generation will use the 16-core Godson 3C.

Hu suggested some of the Godson designs could hit performance levels of multiple petaflops—potentially putting China's designers in the number one slot on the list of the world's Top 500 supercomputers for the first time. The server chips also aim at design wins in high-end embedded systems.

A big leap behind the x86

Also on the road map is the Godson 2H, a single-chip PC processor that integrates graphics, a memory controller and a full suite of peripherals due in late 2011. Hu's group also plans a 16-core server chip for 2012, the Godson 3C.

The Godson paper created a buzz at Hot Chips where Hu was peppered with questions after his talk. However, some--including analyst Nathan Brookwood of Insight64 in a video interview--expressed skepticism whether China could make good on its ambitious plans, particularly for securing 28nm process technology.

The eight-core Godson 3B is in the works at a time when AMD is already shipping a 12-core server chip. Intel described at Hot Chips its Westmere-EX, a 32nm dual-threaded, ten-core server processor with advanced security and virtualization features it will ship soon.

China's CPU engineers plan to leapfrog 45nm process technology, using a 28nm process for their next generation design. Hu optimistically predicted he will have a prototype 28nm Godson design by April, though real products will not be ready until 2012.

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lol, u right! China NEVER BUY American design, they ONLY STEAL the design.
or some1 said.. borrow!

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Chinese Chip Closes In on Intel, AMD

http://www.technologyreview.com/computing/26596/?a=f

China may finally have a processor to power a homegrown supercomputer.

Thursday, October 21, 2010

By Christopher Mims

At this year's Hot Chips conference at Stanford University, Weiwu Hu, the lead architect of the "national processor" of China, revealed three new chip designs. One of them could enable China to build a homegrown supercomputer to rank in a prestigious list of the world's fastest machines.

The Loongson processor family (known in China by the name Godson), is now in its sixth generation. The latest designs consist of the one-gigahertz, eight-core Godson 3B, the more powerful 16-core, Godson 3C (with a speed that is currently unknown), and the smaller, lower-power one-gigahertz Godson 2H, intended for netbooks and other mobile devices. The Godson 3B will be commercially available in 2011, as will the Godson 2H, but the Godson 3C won't debut until 2012.

According to Tom Halfhill, industry analyst and editor of Microprocessor Report, the eight-core Godson 3B will still be significantly less powerful than Intel's best chip, the six-core Xeon processor. It will be able to perform roughly 30 percent fewer mathematical calculations per second. Intel's forthcoming Sandy Bridge processor and AMD's Bulldozer processor will widen the gap between chips designed by American companies and the Godson 3B.

However, China's chip-making capabilities are improving quickly. Intel's Xeon processor uses a 32-nanometer process (meaning the smallest components can be formed on this scale), while the Godson 3B uses 65 nanometers, leading to significantly slower processing speeds. But the Godson 3C processor will leapfrog current technology by using a 28-nanometer process, although this will only increase its clock speed by about a factor of two, estimates Halfhill. With its eight additional cores, this should make the 3C about four times as fast as the Godson 3B.

Hu, lead architect of the Godson project, said via e-mail that China's Dawning 6000 supercomputer, originally slated for completion in mid-2010, will instead debut in 2011, using the Godson 3B. Halfhill calculates that the Dawning supercomputer will use CPUs that are slower than fastest Intel chips. However, it could still rank on the Top 500 list of the 500 fastest supercomputers in the world--a significant coup for China's fledgling electronics industry. "Just getting into the Top 500 with a native processor is a worthy accomplishment," says Halfhill.

The Loongson processor is based on the MIPS instruction set, the basic commands that a microprocessor understands. In contrast, Intel and AMD processors are based on the x86 instruction set. Engineers at China's Institute of Computing Technology (ICT) have added more than 300 instructions to the MIPS instruction set in the latest generation of the Loongson processor, and most are devoted to vector processing, a technique for processing data in parallel that can speed operations like graphics and scientific processing. The Dawning 6000 would mark the first time a MIPS-based supercomputer has appeared in the Top 500 list since 2004.

The ongoing development of the Loongson processor family is good news for Stanford-based MIPS Technologies, which licenses the MIPS instruction set and competes with the x86, ARM, and IBM Power architectures. "It's our view that the ICT team and the MIPS instruction set are in a leading position for the [Chinese] government-driven national processor effort," says Art Swift, vice president of marketing at MIPS.

At the low end of the Godson family of processors, the new 2H chip is an incremental improvement compared to previous chips in the Godson 2 series, says Halfhill. According to Hu, the chip is designed for netbooks, other mobile devices, low-powered PCs and embedded systems.

An important factor for the Godson 2 series has been the porting of Google's Android operating system (used in smart phones, and in some tablets and netbooks) to the MIPS instruction set, says Swift, who adds that ICT engineers were very active in that effort. "The uptake of Android in China was phenomenal; they were way ahead of everyone else, and the whole rest of the field has followed," Swift says.

Hu has emphasized in the past that a primary goal of ICT's "national processor" effort is the creation of an affordable chip that can help bring China out of the industrial age and into the information age.

"I think what they're really after is a national processor that is broadly used and displaces the Intel monopoly," says Swift.

Displacing the Intel monopoly does not necessarily mean displacing the Windows monopoly, however. Despite ICT's emphasis on Android and open-source software, the Loongson family includes many instructions designed to speed up emulation of the x86 instruction set, and the Microsoft architecture team attended Hu's presentation at Hot Chips, according to Swift. "I wouldn't rule out this being a great Windows processor at some point," he says.

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The Chinese Academy of Sciences will detail the Godson 3c, a 16-core version of the China-grown processor based on the Mips64 instruction set.


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唔該peter!
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The Loongson processor is based on the MIPS instruction set, the basic commands that a microprocessor understands. In contrast, Intel and AMD processors are based on the x86 instruction set. Engineers at China's Institute of Computing Technology (ICT) have added more than 300 instructions to the MIPS instruction set in the latest generation of the Loongson processor, and most are devoted to vector processing, a technique for processing data in parallel that can speed operations like graphics and scientific processing. The Dawning 6000 would mark the first time a MIPS-based supercomputer has appeared in the Top 500 list since 2004.


next time read before you post, Peter.
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