fibbi

I guess some server works because of the tip and forget the "pay" they got...

jj123van

First of all, I think there are exceptional servers out there who deserve higher wage. However, I think there are some terrible servers out there who takes tips for granted. I really believe in tips should be give in relationship to quality of service received, not a set percentage. I would often pay 30%+ for a good experience (regardless of type of restaurant); but there are times I would refuse to pay any tips due to a sup-par quality of service.

In many countries (Switzerland, Germany, Japan, etc.), tips are considered offensive by waiters, as they truly believe in service quality standards, and take pride in their profession. On the same token, would you tip a bank teller for processing your bank transaction? They often have to deal with difficult guest and still put up a smile. How about a Bus Drivers? Flight attendant? Janitor? Supermarket cashiers? Don't they deserve to be tipped as much as a Waiter/Waitress?

raffaello

That's really funny to read this post......why ppl  r always so "cheap" ?? If u really enjoy the res ...
lazycow8850 發表於 2012-1-3 02:03

They are paid by the restaurant to do all those tasks you listed. If they think they are underpaid, go find a better job.

Catpiano

Really interesting ...  even how much tip to pay ...  so many replies ..

Well, waiter (waitress) are so high pay .... hard to get higher pay job wor ..

快樂牛郎

I don't see how a waiter can be exceptionally good.  They can be extra friendly but whatever they do is not rocket science.  Maybe the norm is that they should be doing a poor job so the not-so-bad ones become exceptional.

Catpiano

Waiter in US vs Canada .. big diff la..   

Then from Asin ..

Waiter/waitress from asian are very good .. but low pay ..  waiter in N/A ..  over paid ..  that is why .. they dont give a shXt ..

布小熊

Waiter in US vs Canada .. big diff la..   

Then from Asin ..

Waiter/waitress from asian are very  ...
Catpiano 發表於 2012-1-4 04:31 PM

Not sure about AB and the restaurants you go to..
I think most resto here pay close to minimum hourly rate for servers.
They make most of their income from tips (esp higher end restaurants).  
I do get good service in Canada but not from all restaurants. Sadly, I don't want to say it out but most Asian restaurants didn't try hard on improving their service.
They are selling the "value" instead of a dining experience. i.e. service isn't a big part of it.

快樂牛郎

Not sure about AB and the restaurants you go to..
I think most resto here pay close to minimum hou ...
布小熊 發表於 2012/1/4 17:32

But when you go to those high end restaurants with "good services", their menu prices are already inflated to include such premium services.  There's no reason to pay those waiters extra either.

布小熊

But when you go to those high end restaurants with "good services", their menu prices are already  ...
快樂牛郎 發表於 2012-1-4 05:38 PM

I was googling to make sure that i am not wrong on assuming that servers get only minimum pay... I was shock to find out that some (in the states at least) get WAY less than minimum on their base pay...

this guy was getting $2.35 per hour...
On his table tip:

Cooks get 5%. Bartenders get 2%. Busers get 3%. Hosts get 2%c of my ‘reported’ tip earnings.

I earned $2.35 per hour for my work. Worked 11 hours. So I got $47.

Read it if you have a lot of time:
http://moneyning.com/personal/do-waiters-always-deserve-the-tip/

Catpiano

Well .. anyway .. doesn't matter ..  when everyone pays ~ 12-15% ..  tip ..

What can u do? Yes, someone can say he is not going to pay a penny ..  or pay a lots .. when the waitress is hot ..