chunsh

原帖由 Traum 於 2008-5-8 09:36 發表
響公眾地方，每個人都有權去行駛佢自己既權利。無錯，陳同學係企出來唱反調呀，但咁又如何？點解警方可以強行剝削陳同學言論自由既權利？點解警方可以擺明唔落案，放走果件企圖襲擊陳同學友人既京奧支持者？愛國同奧運大Q晒呀？愛國 ...

if those dumb ass know that what they do will trigger the fire in the large crowd , and they still do that. They need to accept the consequence (certain people in the crowd may have violent body contact or personal insulting). What the cop can do is bringing those small crowd of dumb ass out of the LARGE crowd in order to protect both parties, and the people who are in NO PARTY (i.e. families with children and oldies)

if u think the cop should use force to stop the large crowd from being angry and acting offensive to those small crowd instead of bringing away the small handful of people is the right way to prevent conflict at that moment, as another member (forgot the name) said, ok, you win

SAZABI

人權唔可以濫用囉.  唔係有乜野事, 達"人權", "言論自由" 就可以大q哂, 任意妄為囉.
呢d行為, 係响加拿大先經常發生   

我個人既睇法:
响奧運聖火傳送期間, 有理由咁去返對奧運, 咁叫言論自由, 人權.
响奧運聖火傳送期間, 示威西藏問題, 叫搞事. 比人 dup 死都唔駛可憐.

SAZABI

原帖由 Traum 於 2008-5-8 12:28 發表

人地陳同學早排西藏暴亂既時候都已經有響港大民主牆貼挺藏人自決既海報啦，轉頭咪俾人撕晒落來。

中國人權會因攪奧運而進步，呢樣野係中共政府自己講，自己當年申辦既時候既承諾。好喇，依家奧運就俾你做，但承諾你就做唔到， ...

你又知中國人權問題上無進步? 搵咩比較? 咩程度先叫有人權? 整安全注射屋, 派0下毒品先叫追得上 standard?

呢個 condition 响搞奧運個 proposal 上面寫明架? 點解要張人權/整治同奧運拉埋一齊? 知唔知 1968 奧運响邊舉辦? 1980? 奧運幾時加多個項目叫人權架? 我想講既係, Olympics 唔係政治運動. 就係咁簡單.

最重要係, 你一路講緊既係 "陳同學出黎搞事係佢既人權". 我 argue 既係佢呢d叫濫用"人權" / "言論自由". 我對中國政治無興趣, 所以唔好assume 我响呢方面既立場.

soli

試下去德國遊行支持納粹主義。
試下去美國/德國遊行質疑屠殺猶太人真確性。

每個國家都有其禁忌﹐藏獨台獨疆獨就係中國既禁忌。反正警察都無拉人﹐俾人罵幾句就係無言論自由? 但如果做我上面兩個例子的事﹐係會俾人拉既﹐o甘邊度更有言論自由??

又譬如﹐如果有班人上街話﹐以一部份日本人既歪理話南京大屠殺係捏造出黎﹐阿力哥你又點睇?

SAZABI

原帖由 soli 於 2008-5-8 13:13 發表
又譬如﹐如果有班人上街話﹐以一部份日本人既歪理話南京大屠殺係捏造出黎﹐阿力哥你又點睇?

人權 + 言論自由 = win