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作者: B仔 時間: 2009-9-7 14:57 標題: LISANGE的態度再創新低

我有對好朋友，因為揀之前缺乏了一點資料搜查，以及被一名三姑施壓唔比佢去紅娘影相，所以初初僱用了LISANGE影影樓照，同埋婚日的PHOTOGRAPHER。

後來，發覺百合仙子的名已經臭哂，加上影PRE WEDDING相的經過不是很滿意，所以影完影樓相之後，臨時轉呔，搵別間公司做WEDDING DAY PHOTOGRAPHER。

當然，轉得PHOTOGRAPHER都預咗要同LISANGE傾數。我朋友已付了一半當DEPOSIT，係影PRE WEDDING的相的數目。LISANGE要求我朋友付多＄500當作PENALTY FEE，我朋友都冇怨言，即比錢。

LISANGE有意留難，D PRE WEDDING PHOTO，過了兩個月+，都未有貨交。到啱啱呢個星期先比到相簿我朋友。係婚期的一個禮拜前先咁MUN交貨。

我朋友D伴娘及姊妹裙亦是係百合仙子度訂購。在合同上寫明係包ALTERATION的。但係到我朋友約齊哂她的姊妹去FITTING／拿裙，LISANGE就話要付錢。

我朋友去LISANGE度PICK UP相簿的那天，還剩兩本細相簿要下次拿，那店的攝影師同我朋友講，下次來拿相簿，叫埋佢未婚夫去。。。因為有"野"同佢地傾。我朋友都覺有點怪。。。相都影完，錢又比完，簿都拿了，仲有咩傾？？？

好喇，約埋佢HUNNIE去拿剩餘的相簿喇。。。終於知道LISANGE想點：
LISANGE問我朋友可唔可以用佢地嘅相簿嚟擺係STORE做SAMPLE。好喇，一啖沙糖，而家嚟啖屎喇。。。
佢問我朋友，識唔識一個網站叫LYK。我朋友話聽過吓啦。百合仙子就叫我朋友上嚟LYK幫佢地講番句好說話，因為呢度好多人數臭佢地，問我朋友係咪比呢度D人疏擺？。我朋友話，關佢咩事？人地講乜，有人地的言論自由。她同她老公，亦有佢地自由嘅發表，佢地唔可以施壓叫人幫佢講好野！

百合仙子呢間黑店，真係SOT上腦。無聊兼白癡。

我朋友嬲到振。

作者: khaki 時間: 2009-9-7 15:38

百合仙子

你真係抵死喇！

好店要分享，黑店更加要比大家知！等百合仙子唔好以為個個新娘都好好呃！支持b仔！

作者: ravemother 時間: 2009-9-7 17:40

ok, 百合仙子 is in my black list. i will spread the news.

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2009-9-7 20:43

well... it's on my black list since my friend's bad experience years ago....

作者: 小叻 時間: 2009-9-7 21:05

oh my god!!! *pissed*
to be honest lor.. if their service is good..ppl will recommend them lor..no need to request their client to do so.. if their service is bad..they should listen and correct it!
The pre-wedding album needs 2 months? what da.... I took less than a month to get my pre-wedding album from Taiwan!! =__=

作者: Nam 時間: 2009-9-7 22:24

好心啦，要人幫佢係老友記做寫手，當初就唔可刁難人哋，你估人人都會好恨做sample 咩！低Q能！

係怕嘅話，俾多少少heart, massive create 一大堆account，叫啲員工返工時，起勢咁係老友記做勢lor!

本來對白合仙子無咩話好唔好，睇埋個post, 一定 black list 佢，兼叫身邊會結婚嘅朋友千其唔好揀間黑店！

作者: khaki 時間: 2009-9-7 22:58

今次仙子真係捉虫入pat pat

作者: B仔 時間: 2009-9-8 08:01

真係離譜！就算我個FRIEND唔親手上嚟唱衰你，你唔係天真到覺得人地受完你氣會唔同其他人伸，而其他人係唔會睇唔過眼丫化？！

作者: sheep 時間: 2009-9-8 08:32

服務唔好
D相靚就補番啦
如果連D相都唔掂既話
就扺嬲啦

作者: hium 時間: 2009-9-8 09:35

我係幾年前嘅受害者！哩間野真係無賴到冇朋友！我淨租禮服竟然要收我 alternation 錢！我咪囉住張 contract 同佢拗囉！好在被我同老公捉到佢字"suc" 咋！因為我同哩間野反咗面，所以果時要另外搵人做化妝同頭髮，好驚比佢整蠱！真係比佢累死呀！
哩間同埋"多X道"都係我嘅 top of black list 嚟！

作者: siumaibb 時間: 2009-9-8 10:16

"因為揀之前缺乏了一點資料搜查"
結婚咁大件事都唔做好資料搜查，你對朋友好似麻乎左少少喎。。。

作者: 小叻 時間: 2009-9-8 11:22

唔可以怪佢地有無做research~講真..我結婚前搜集資料時覺得超級困難﹗真係好難找到D有用既customer review... 都係要聽下結左婚既朋友介紹或見議﹗ 我既朋友中我係較早結婚..身邊已結婚既朋友不多..所以要花更多既時間上網搜集資料... 但係網上搜集關於Vancouver Chinese wedding/ venue/ pre-wedding photo等資料實在是太少﹗根本好難知道邊D婚紗鋪既價錢/service 邊間好D.. 所以我都係周圍問人..親自去睇下先決定﹗

這間Lisange我都有親自去睇過.. 去睇之前亦有朋友在依間店影pre-wedding.. wedding day + 租衫。 both positive + negative 既 comments 我都聽過.. 講句中肯D架啦﹕

價錢﹕係大溫算平。要拗價﹗ 一分錢一分貨 *if u have tight budget.. go to them*

衫﹕ 唔靚﹗ (我入去揀唔到一件) plus D 衫 sizes..過大﹗ 身材嬌小既免去﹗
**叫我(size 0) 試件size at least 6 or 8既話可以改 =__= the cup is waaay to big for me ok? even alter..the dress shape changed!!! o_o"

Photo outcome: 普普通通la ~ nothing special. i dun wanna say much as i am not a professional photographer.. and i am not good at taking pics..but D相影出黎係無乜幸福既感覺。

作者: khaki 時間: 2009-9-8 11:26

請問有冇人幫襯過黑店係冇事走番出黎？好似人人排隊同佢拗數

無賴到冇朋友x２！

作者: B仔 時間: 2009-9-8 11:26

蘋果臉，
我朋友冇你咁堅持。姊妹裙要比ALTERATION時，我個FRIEND"興"到爆，不過都硬啃比咗錢當買佢怕，廢事同佢拗。

D相簿咁鬼死耐，我對朋友好驚，個個星期打比佢問佢有未。間野就每個禮拜咁話下一個星期到。一個星期再一個星期再一個星期咁賴到啱啱呢個PAST WEEK先有。大佬呀，人地今個星期六結婚，你咁遲先有簿比人？！我有同個未婚夫講，不如一日未有相到手，一日都唔好比個PENALTY FEE住。不過未婚夫同未婚妻係好林善，佢地已經唔想再DEAL WITH THEM，所以好爽手就比在錢。

我個FRIEND呀，連自己條婚紗都係係LISANGE度訂架。真係蝦得就蝦！後日我個FRIEND會去PICK UP埋條裙。。。既然百合仙子有睇開LYK就啱喇！

話你知呀，你見到我個FRIEND好同人道歉添呀！咁嘅態度實在太過份！冇人上門拆你招牌，放上YOUTUBE，告上BBB咪偷笑囉！講真，我地好FAIR嘅。如果我個朋友話比我地聽，你D SERVICE同態度有改善的，我地實還你公道，會話你間店有意改進，希望下次會有人比好的評語你。

作者: khaki 時間: 2009-9-8 11:32

哎呀，仲要見架？anyway 祝你朋友結婚順利！

作者: fibbi 時間: 2009-9-8 11:39

I have seen one friend of friend have their picture taken there. From what I have seen, "po po tone tone" la. They didn't really complain in front of me though. For myself, I have been to the store, dress doesn't seem to impress me either. Mid-price range western brand dress lor.
The saleslady seems nice (of course la...I haven't paid...who would be not nice to talk people into biz right)...
But ... I have seen a few positive feedback from cauasian forum wor... (weddingbell.ca), maybe they are "nicer" to cauasian???

作者: B仔 時間: 2009-9-8 11:45

請問有冇人幫襯過黑店係冇事走番出黎？好似人人排隊同佢拗數

無賴到冇朋友x２！
khaki 發表於 2009-9-8 12:26

我聽聞好似有一個。
不過我同個對夫婦唔係好熟，所以冇問清楚。。。
我而家好奇，唔知個對COUPLES係真係冇事丫，定係比人食咗都唔知。

作者: mrcow 時間: 2009-9-8 12:15

Hello everyone,

Thank you all for the reply and discussion.

I am the person that actually used the service from Lisange and I am going to post my own experience and a review, and could possibly clear some confusion.  I would like to stress that everything I write is my own experience.  I admit that we were politely asked if we could provide a review since Lisange thinks that they did a good job with our pictures.

On or about April/May 2009, we contracted Lisange as our pre-wedding photographer. We were greeted by their manager politely upon our arrival.  We were presented with different packages that Lisange offered and we decided to go with one of the ~$5k packages.  I have to admit that the manager was very helpful and polite, and we were very satisfied with our service they offered.

On the day of the pre-wedding photo shoot, they provided us with their main photographer along with the assistant, as well as the manager for providing make-up.  The assistant was very kind and attentive to detail.  We were offered to choose any dresses we wanted and were provided numerous make-up styles.  Unfortunately it rained in the middle of our photo-shoot.  Lisange was kind enough to provide us a reschedule the next weekend.  They didn’t charge us extra for the new make-up for the following weekend.  However, I was under the impression that we can choose any location we want for the photo shoot, but later realized that they need special equipment for night shoot so we pay a little extra to have our night shoot done.  Overall experience from the photo-shoot:  The assistant was great and I think the photographer took a lot of great pictures with 5+ locations.  It was really cold that night and the assistant always offered a jacket after we finish a pose and always had an umbrella held up for us.

After a month or so from the photo shoot, we were asked to schedule in to choose our photographs.  My fiancée thinks that the photos were ok but she would like more artistic and candid shoots.  Lisange mostly provided us with “taiwanese” style poses so that’s why we decided to switch our wedding day photographer to a more westernized photographer.

On or about Sept 3, we were called in to pick up the wedding album.  The photos we think were great.  We didn’t know that after all pictures put together in a huge album would look so much different from the monitor.  We really like the end-result of the photo album.  I understand that whether you like the pictures or not is very subjective, but we do think that our album looks great. However, there is one draw-back, our wedding day is on Sept 12 and we believe that the album could have arrived earlier and not one week before our wedding day.  They compensated us with all the soft copy of the photos taken without charge.  They also offered to provide a wedding slideshow with all the pre-wedding pictures (have not received yet).

Overall experience: we like the product and the pictures they have provided.  The only thing we think that it could have done better is that if they can deliver the package earlier and offered more suggestion to artistic/candid post.  If I can do everything over again I would still choose Lisange and communicate more to the photographer as to things/locations we liked.  We choose a different wedding day photographer so that we get more variety in style with our pictures.  I would recommend Lisange for any future couples for pre-wedding photoshoot but just make sure you talk to the photographer about things you like and set a firm deadline for your photo album arrival date.

作者: hium 時間: 2009-9-8 12:59

Saleslady? 邊道有 saleslady? 果個自稱"員工(佢BS："唉～～～我唔係老細我喳唔到主意嫁!"）廣東話唔正嘅女人 Xaxsy, 我每一次去親佢都喺度嘅! "tum"你幫襯果時就 ok 嘅！ once 你一落咗 "dap" 比咗deposit，即刻 X口X面咯！佢唔同你講咩道理嫁，佢淨係想搵辦法問你囉多啲！我果次佢要我另外比 alternation 錢，我咪話"出面都冇一間租禮服唔包改嫁喎？你咁樣唔係好 arm 數喎！" 咁佢同我哋開咗兩次拖，第一次我冇準備好，戰敗，第二次我有備而戰，佢維有妥協俾返一部分錢我哋！但係當我 final fitting 嘅時候，佢又話我條婚紗冇得俾師父改呀，因為我個 package 包括在內個喎。。。咁我咪話咁即係點呀？要我着件唔 arm身嘅婚紗結婚呀？跟住佢就話 "唉！冇辦法啦！最多我幫你改喇！" 跟住我心裡面$％＆＃＄＃哂喇！我同佢講 "唔得！你一定要同我搵專業師父同我改！唔係連剩低個啲錢你都要退返俾我！ " 跟住個X口X面就冇再問我儸錢喇！條裙最後都有改到，不過我就唔知邊個改嫁喇！我冇可能 find out 到咯！

我憎死個間野呀！！！

作者: totori 時間: 2009-9-8 13:14

Saleslady? 邊道有 saleslady? 果個自稱"員工(佢BS："唉～～～我唔係老細我喳唔到主意嫁!"）廣東話唔正嘅女人 Xaxsy, 我每一次去親佢都喺度嘅! "tum"你幫襯果時就 ok 嘅！ once 你一落咗 "dap" 比咗deposit，即刻 X ...
hium 發表於 2009/9/8 12:59 PM

Can't agree with you more on this... I had the same attitude from her a few years ago. So I guess there is really no improvement whatsoever.

作者: myversa 時間: 2009-9-8 13:30

this was his only post in loyaukee...

作者: Nam 時間: 2009-9-8 13:40

Good student. Learn really quick and do take my advise. LOL

作者: 雪姬 時間: 2009-9-8 14:39

本帖最後由雪姬於 2009-9-8 15:40 編輯

Whether that person is really the client or not, the fact of the matter is:
A "good review" has no value when it is not a voluntary review of the client. No matter how satifactory the service was, it just not to the point where it's good enough to deserve word of mouth praise and promotion.

As a prospect client of any photographer for my future wedding, I will still not consider Lisange. When you are planning your special day, you should be in such great happiness to hope to spread your joy, blessing, and luck with others. Even if the previous poster is really the client, I will not take account of his/her review simply because from reading it, I don't feel the pleasure of sharing something truly good.

On the other hand, it only makes me feel:
1. Lisange made the post themselves
2. Client hoping/preventing Lisange will not sabotage his/her wedding

作者: khaki 時間: 2009-9-8 15:24

公道自在人心

作者: Blue_moons 時間: 2009-9-8 15:30

如果係好, 自然一傳十, 十傳百. 其實佢自己做好本分0甘本唔洗驚俾人唱. 去到要揾人同佢寫個 'good review' 既地步, 唔多見呢間野有料到.

作者: 毅字 時間: 2009-9-8 21:38

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作者: icing 時間: 2009-9-9 09:00

I've seen 2 friends' photos from there, they're not appealing at all, like those from very cheap stores in China

作者: yoshi86 時間: 2009-9-9 09:31

To LISANGE:

算把啦你~!
你有今時今天嘅評論係你自己做成....
一個半個post/review 唔會改變人地對你嘅睇法...
希望你真心改過，人地自然會對你嘅睇法改變...

和LISANGE有不快經驗的人上

作者: yoshi86 時間: 2009-9-9 09:33

BTW, LISANGE 真係好 PK

作者: B仔 時間: 2009-9-9 11:24

和LISANGE有不快經驗的人上 ...
yoshi86 發表於 2009-9-9 10:31

仙子對你做過D咩嚟呀？

作者: skywalker 時間: 2009-9-10 02:50

this was his only post in loyaukee...
myversa 發表於 2009-9-8 14:30

But it seems his experience is real, I know quite a lot of friends had their wedding services provided by Lisange, and their comments
are all positive...services, products, and the price. According to some of our LYK words "they never been good", are all my friends only lucky by chance to received good services from them? and then introduce each other one after one? I don't know...but I know ( 經常到這論壇的都知道) here is a battle field of wedding services providers, Taiwanese style"抺黑", Hong Kong style"唱衰" are common tricks use by them. I will suggest to check them out by yourself.

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2009-9-10 06:59

Interesting POV.
May be ppl who posted here were just UNLUCKY.
I had such an unlucky experience when I went with my then bride-to-be friend to Lisange. We tried to show them that the size that they had in the store (way too big) didn't fit my friend. And they had to order another one that fits as promised. (they promised to order a new one at the very beginning of the negotiation and that's a major reason that my friend decided to use Lisange.)
But why does a customer have to make such effort and had such experience of negotiation to just make Lisange do what they have promised at the beginning of the "deal".

作者: B仔 時間: 2009-9-10 08:45

But it seems his experience is real, I know quite a lot of friends had their wedding services provided by Lisange, and their comments
are all positive...services, products, and the price. According to some of our LYK words "they never been good", are all my friends only lucky by chance to received good services from them? and then introduce each other one after one? I don't know...but I know ( 經常到這論壇的都知道) here is a battle field of wedding services providers, Taiwanese style"抺黑", Hong Kong style"唱衰" are common tricks use by them. I will suggest to check them out by yourself.
skywalker 發表於 2009-9-10 03:50

我唔知個個人係咪真嘅CLIENT（AT LEAST我GIRL FRIEND係真係好好好好興，所以一定不是她）。。。不過你唔怪得我地個個都覺得有可疑喎～正如樓上的藍髮小姐話齋，如果真係咁好，人地會自動自覺上嚟推薦啦。

再講，MRCOW係話:
"百合仙子請求佢上嚟寫好說話因為佢地覺得自己影得好做得好"

we were politely asked if we could provide a review since Lisange thinks that they did a good job with our pictures.
mrcow 發表於 2009-9-8 13:15

而唔係
"MRCOW覺得好，所以先特登上嚟開個LYK ACCOUNT讚好百合仙子"
囉～

我，布小熊，HIUM，YOSHI86身邊咁多人結婚，LYK咁多人結婚，真係唔知點解個個都要"抹黑"LISANGE。三唔識七，冇需要唱衰佢，我地又冇錢收。
結婚係大事，如果唔係真係好到爆，都唔會立亂PROMOTE 比其他人啦～
有時，唔係話要衰到斷人米路，不過呢D職業操守真係唔值得更多人"瀨野"。

一間WEDDING SERVICES嘅公司，無論係攝影，禮餅，禮服ETC咩都好，最基本嘅就係PROVIDE對新人WITH分擔壓力／令婚禮準備順利進行。好明顯，仙子好多時做唔到咁簡單嘅基本。

唔排除你身邊的例子真係滿意，不過非常不幸地大部分人唔滿意係事實。

作者: 小叻 時間: 2009-9-10 08:48

31# skywalker
no matter mr.cow experience is real or not, the reason why people are posting here is to share their experience. i am also surprised by the number of ppl complaining about Lisange. I thought i am the only one who doesnt like Lisange.

I personally heard a lot of bad experience with Lisange before (not from LYK..from the mouth of my fellow frds), and I was alert on going to this store to take my pre-wedding photos. I won't 抹黑 the taiwanese styles as I PERSONALLY love this style. but the fact is that Lisange is not Taiwanese style OK? I went to many bridal stores to check on their price and their photo samples...well..u can say i am a picky and perfectionist person (every brides want to have the best photos for their special DAY).. I don't find their photos or albums appealing at ALL. Their gowns are not Taiwanese style either.. most are western styles which I couldnt find any that I like.

I guess this is "what u get is what u paid" la.. so I ended up going back to Taiwan and took my TAIWANESE style photos last yr. Couple months ago..I was told by my hubby's bro to go to Lisange to rent the gowns for my wedding day (as i took my pre-wedding photos in TW, i have to rent the gowns in Van myself).. my hubby's bro took their pre-wedding + wedding day photo @ Lisange and they got a really good deal..(coz they bargained hard)...and ask me and my hubby to go see it.. even though I personally don't like the Lisange's style.. I still went there to check it out becoz of my tight budget...but I end up didnt book it becoz of the following reasons:
a) their seafood price
- diff price each time when asked
b) the price of the gowns
- not worth it...$350 to rent their plain wedding dress..no way!
c) the size
- i'm still upset that she is asking me to try on a size 6 or 8 when I am a size 0. Most of the gowns in their store are big in size...

Lisange just want to earn your money..they are not helping you from the heart! This is the MAIN reason i didnt choose Lisange.. they care about ur wallet more than the outcome for your wedding.. I guess operating a business is required to be a blood sucker...but then.. you will ruin a bride's wedding.... say something REAL from your heart..

I am not good at taking photos..as I am not a photographer..but then I still have some sense on what is NICE PHOTOs. Feel free to go to Lisange to look at their samples.. I dun mind.. but remember also go to another Taiwanese style bridal store "紅X" to compare the style... the pics.. the gowns.. then u will understand what I mean gar la. of coz their price will be much higher than Lisange.

作者: 毅字 時間: 2009-9-10 10:41

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作者: fibbi 時間: 2009-9-10 11:04

35# 毅字

唔係個個好似你咁叻識打中文字同埋識咁多助語詞嘅。

幾年前，我有好多朋友喺紅娘影結婚相，服務態度同埋啲相都好好！

作者: zuesel 時間: 2009-9-10 11:18

I went to Lo Cha and regret it so much!!!! Both photography, video and service was poor!

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2009-9-10 11:30

35# 毅字

We are not just talking about the photos. We are talking about the service and the attitude of the store.
Also the trouble of needing to talk and fight for something that's already been promised.
I guess we are too "canadian", we tho what is promised should be done automatically.
This store acts like they are a stall on the roadside.... so customers need to bargain bargain and fight ...

作者: 小叻 時間: 2009-9-10 11:32

I went to Lo Cha and regret it so much!!!! Both photography, video and service was poor!
zuesel 發表於 10-9-2009 11:18

Zuesel, you chose the old lo cha or his son for photographer? I heard that his son is no good..

作者: 小叻 時間: 2009-9-10 11:39

There are many many many things to prepare for a wedding.. and most of the brides will listen and follow the wedding store's professional advice...coz they want someone to share their burdens.. and choose something that fit the bride and groom the most! Not to create problems.. or try to get the money from them. Pls don't take advantage of the couples who don't want to waste their valuable time to debate/argue/ or bargain again! There are tons of stuff to do to prepare a wedding!! If the store didn't put their true heart to their customers.. only want to squeeze the money from the couple.. I would not recommend this store!

作者: khaki 時間: 2009-9-10 12:12

skywalker 如果你真係覺得仙子好不如少出句聲啦，你見唔見每當一個reply話拒好就會pop多5個complain，你唔好再害死仙子喇

聽落雖然有過lyk唔滿意紅娘但係好似紅娘係穩陣D？有得揀我D朋友都唔會係呢邊影taiwanese style喇，飛去大陸影囉

作者: fibbi 時間: 2009-9-10 13:47

I had my pic taken at Lo Cha while the photographer (Lo Cha himself) is ok, but the saleslady is not as nice. I mean, she's really into bargaining and you hard to get anything from her.

作者: 小叻 時間: 2010-2-22 22:50

I drove by Lisange on Sunday...and saw that their store is closed and emptied!!! they ran out of business???

作者: Butterfly 時間: 2010-2-23 07:17

43# 小叻

i checked on their website; looks like they're opening a new store in another name in Richmond!!

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-2-23 08:37

43# 小叻

i checked on their website; looks like they're opening a new store in another name in Richmond!!
Butterfly 發表於 2010-2-23 08:17

because of bad image?

作者: kenli123 時間: 2010-2-27 12:16

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作者: kenli123 時間: 2010-2-27 14:51

我聽講佢搬左去新城市廣場仲改埋名叫艾諾(Ora),聽落好似怪怪0地,我有日開車經過見到間野裡面藍藍綠綠,D顏色都幾恐怖!! 我有朋友都係個間野度搞到好唔開心,所以淨係改左個名係無用架!

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