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作者: hirokendo 時間: 2009-11-4 14:08 標題: Is this true that I need to install 4 snow tires

Hi there

I am planning to get some price quotations for my car and when I called up one of the tire shops. The owner told me I need to buy 4 snow tires instead of 2. May I know is there a "New" law or law to prohibit car with 2 snow tires installed on the front ?

Please kindly advise ASAP.

作者: spoonek4 時間: 2009-11-4 14:24

講得冇錯係一定要4條同款呔，咁你4個corner先至有一定既抓著力去安全咁起步，拖慢部車同轉彎.......

好多人都只係諗冬天部車會唔會stuck，起唔起到步，其實大錯特錯！你部車行到轉唔到/停唔到就等於坐左o係個計時炸彈上面，隨時危及自己，車入面既人同其他道路使用者既安全。

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-11-4 14:26

There are no man-made laws that prohibits a car from running only 2 snow tires (usually on the drive wheels), but common sense dictates this is something you should do.

In an FWD car, you could put your snow tires on drive wheels, given them better grip in snowy / icy / slick conditions. However, your back tires will still have little traction, and may very well swing around when your come around turns (甩尾). You'd lose control of the car and crash into something.

In an RWD car, you could put your snow tires in the back. But then your car would still have no grip in the front, so it can't steer. So you're still gonna crash head first into something.

Of course, people know better than to smoke and drink and do drugs as well, but that certainly hasn't stopped people from doing those things...

-Lik

作者: Derek128 時間: 2009-11-4 15:19

識得有人係icbc 做adjuster
如果發生意外
而你架車前後唔同traction (2條雪tires + 2條all season or 有2條新 + 2條舊(less than 60%))
佢地好大機會會話係你錯

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-11-4 15:26

There are no man-made laws that prohibits a car from running only 2 snow tires (usually on the drive wheels), but common sense dictates this is something you should do.
Lik 發表於 2009-11-4 14:26

Doh~

Obviously, I meant to say this is something you shouldn't do...

-Lik

作者: tofu 時間: 2009-11-4 15:56

yes, i have been informed by costco & canadian tire you needs to install 4 snow tires(except rear wheel drive). so they are not allowed to sell & install two snow tires for you.

"""Snow Tire Installation - Rear Wheel Drive Vehicles
Two snow tires can be installed on the rear of a rear wheel drive vehicle.

Snow Tire Installation - Front Wheel Drive, Four Wheel Drive, and All Wheel Drive Vehicles
Snow tires will only be installed in sets of four on front wheel drive, four wheel drive, and all wheel drive vehicles.

Snow Tire Installation - Dual Wheel Drive Vehicles
Snow tires will only be installed in sets of four on the rear of a dual wheel vehicle or a complete set of six tires."""

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2009-11-4 15:59

U mean, you want 2 wheel in snow tire, 2 in summer tire ??

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2009-11-4 16:10

don't be cheap ass. get 4.

作者: sheep 時間: 2009-11-4 21:46

I take the transit

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2009-11-4 22:11

Many big places won't even install tires if they could see that there are no treads left. I guess all about liability.

Philip

作者: yuusaku 時間: 2009-11-5 00:14

本帖最後由 yuusaku 於 2009-11-5 01:19 編輯

I know that you are talking about installing 2 snow tires and worry about liability....

About couple weeks ago I saw a good deal of a set of snow tire, I've emailed ICBC about liability of downsizing too much.

Original: 205/55/16
New:195/55/15
(speedometer would show about 5.8% too fast.)

here is their reply:

Your Autoplan coverage would still be valid in the event of a claim, but the difference in size could affect how fault is determined.

You could also be subject to possible motor vehicle fines if you don't meet the requirements set out in Divisions 7.161 and 7.162 of the Motor Vehicle Act Regulations; you can find unofficial versions of these divisions on the Queen's Printer's website at http://www.bclaws.ca/Recon/docum ... 04.xml#section7.161

Please let me know if you have any further questions.

at the end, I bought 195/65/15

作者: CWong 時間: 2009-11-5 00:54

只安2條雪呔是肯定不安全的，很有机会会在濕滑路面落斜啲時候汔車会摆尾失控！

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2009-11-5 01:34

I drive with two snow tires on fwd all the time, never had an accident...it depends on your skills

作者: CWong 時間: 2009-11-5 03:09

有技術唔等於意外唔会出现，唔等於当一部車失控嘅時侯可以百份百掌握到唔会撞，你今次避得过唔等於下次又会咁好彩，驾驶技術当然重要，但汔車裝備更能忽视，假若安裝4條雪軚，可令意外減低，只安裝2條雪軚，其意外比率就較4條雪軚相应增加一培，无論ICBC、police、autoshop都见议人必须安裝4條雪軚，有啲卖車軚地方更是会拒绝为顧客單安裝2條雪軚的，因为怕被追夠意外後責任！

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2009-11-5 09:30

本帖最後由 shutterbug 於 2009-11-5 10:33 編輯

I agree with what u said cwong. I didn't tell people to just buy 2 snow tires, I recommend 4 as well. However, people with 4 snow tires still get into accidents because they re lack of road sense and driving skills, or it just happens to be an accident that nobody can avoid. Know your limits is my best advice. There are many things you can do to avoid accidents other than snow tires. The problem is that I don't see many people doing those. Instead, I saw many with snow tires thought that they are bulletproof and start driving as if they are on regular pavement.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2009-11-5 09:47

IF 2 all season tires on front, 2 snow tires on rear on a well balanced RWD car .. then not really that bad.. ( still not recommend )

Funny thing is, we were told by the instructor, no matter FWD or RWD, put better traction tires on rear. (if no choice)

I remember few year ago, it was nice and warm during day time, I was driving convertible, then all the sudden, SNOW liked crazy .. ( I mean REAL SNOW! ) I couldn't even leave the parking lots at Church ... so I had to go home, and brought 2 snow wheel/tire and put them on ... in order to drive home ...

I only changed 2 tires, since it was special .. then next day, all snow melt, nice and warm again... so I had to chance back to summer tire ...

作者: hirokendo 時間: 2009-11-5 16:07

thanks for all your input and will decide to go for 4 snow tires for this winter season.

作者: kencyliu 時間: 2009-11-7 11:30

冬天換雪呔當然比較安全些，但不一定冇事發生，有時因為自以為安全而掉以輕心，可能更加危險。
我有位朋友一直都是行四季呔，從來都冇事，前年在Costco換了一套最貴的米記雪呔，結果跣到飛起撞curb，
連轆都歪埋。多倫多比這裏多雪，那處一位朋友告訴我他從來都冇換雪呔，一樣冇事。
我門前有一條斜路，落雪時上不了山多數是performance cars，越貴就越死。大馬力，後驅和跑車呔都是致命傷，有時路邊泊滿跑車非常熱鬧。

作者: kencyliu 時間: 2009-11-7 11:32

冬天換雪呔當然比較安全些，但不一定冇事發生，有時因為自以為安全而掉以輕心，可能更加危險。
我有位朋友一直都是行四季呔，從來都冇事，前年在Costco換了一套最貴的米記雪呔，結果跣到飛起撞curb，
連轆都歪埋。多倫多比這裏多雪，那處一位朋友告訴我他從來都冇換雪呔，一樣冇事。
我門前有一條斜路，落雪時上不了山多數是performance cars，越貴就越死。大馬力，後驅和跑車呔都是致命傷，有時路邊泊滿跑車非常熱鬧。

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