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作者: hangfat 時間: 2009-12-6 20:37 標題: Ah So said

"加拿大的酒家，餐廳實在太難食，就連他們很自豪的溫哥華，我都只覺得平平無奇，絕不能與香港相比"
kind of agreed.
vancouver is best in north america & most part of europe, but definitely not
comparable with hk.

作者: tiffiant 時間: 2009-12-6 20:44

whahhwhahhwwa
vancouver sucks at at entertianments~~~

作者: news 時間: 2009-12-6 20:52

LOL righttt..that chick knows jack shxt

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-6 21:12

1# hangfat

It is not that  we lack of fine chefs and restaurateurs in Vancouver, there is a very small market for
High end Chinese restaurant to survive.
4-5 years ago some restaurants featured $2,000-2,800 /table wedding banquet in Richmond, just how
many people are willing to spend that kind of  money these days?
It is not rare for people to feast on HK$2,000 a pop abalone in Hong Kong , but  it is almost impossible in Vancouver,
for the past 30 years

作者: eeq20 時間: 2009-12-6 21:49

Wait till the HST kicks in next summer, there will be even fewer high end Chinese restaurant.

作者: sheep 時間: 2009-12-6 21:55

睇完亞苏教菜芯炒牛肉碟頭飯
佢講既野可以當耳邊風

作者: masterbear 時間: 2009-12-6 21:55

5# eeq20

Well Said!!!!
作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-6 22:01

5# eeq20

Relax, Premier Wen Jiabao  promised that there will be a large delegation coming to Canada in 2010; and
there are 1,000,000 family members to be visited. Be prepared for the big spenders from China thanks to ADS.
Make sure you have Mandarin speaking staffs ready.
作者: sheep 時間: 2009-12-6 22:02

不過
我地D大陸豪客
食晏都要食皇帝蟹
越貴越顯身分
作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-6 22:06

不過
我地D大陸豪客
食晏都要食皇帝蟹
越貴越顯身分
sheep 發表於 2009-12-6 22:02

At Sea Harbour Restaurant?
作者: Catpiano 時間: 2009-12-6 22:07

本帖最後由 Catpiano 於 2009-12-6 23:14 編輯

Another Mr. T ?? --> HK is the best, everything in Vancouver sucks???

Anyway.....

Whatever, your "ar So"  said is wrong,( or another Mr. T? ) for mid price food, especially seafood, Van is not bad. (your ar son probably hasn't tried ALL resturants in HK and Van)

PLUS ..  we all know, Vancouver is not the best in chinese food for N/A. (I assume you are talking about chinese food?)

Well, we know old people are stubborn too, lots of old farts in Vancouver say Vancouver food is good ..  lots of old farts in London say London food is good ...
作者: sheep 時間: 2009-12-6 22:11

At Sea Harbour Restaurant?
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-12-6 23:06

how do you know that?
Harbour  should expand to entertain our guest from China
作者: Littleprince 時間: 2009-12-6 22:32

本帖最後由 Littleprince 於 2009-12-6 23:35 編輯

不過
我地D大陸豪客
食晏都要食皇帝蟹
越貴越顯身分
sheep 發表於 2009-12-6 23:02

仲有越南豪 c9﹐午餐同兩個小朋友 (十歲以下) 一人叫一隻鮑魚送飯
作者: Littleprince 時間: 2009-12-6 22:36

"加拿大的酒家，餐廳實在太難食，就連他們很自豪的溫哥華，我都只覺得平平無奇，絕不能與香港相比"
kind of agreed.
vancouver is  best in north america & most part of europe, but definitely not
comparable w ...
hangfat 發表於 2009-12-6 21:37

她說 “我都只覺得平平無奇” 只係純粹個人意見遮。。。正如我覺得街邊D喇渣麵好好食﹐都有好多人有權話難食到痺。。。所以她說的可以不理
作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-6 22:49

14# Littleprince

Ah So, is that the outspoken DJ and " Gourmet"?  from Hong Kong?
and she teaches cooking in HK as well.  I really doubt her taste.
One of her famous slogan is  "Only incompetent cooks would cook with garlic"
作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2009-12-6 23:03

本帖最後由 ACC-HE 於 2009-12-7 00:04 編輯

Vancouver Restaurants 跌晒 Watt la... but I still prefer having a meal here 'cause I can enjoy it without:

- line up
- car parking hrs, once you missed the time, you either need to pay expensive rate
- or parking at illegal parking spot, better keep an eye on police...
- eat in a hurry 'cause more ppl are waiting...
- food safety
作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2009-12-6 23:04

ah so? 蘇施黃? 佢既節目幾有娛樂性既.
口味呢方便就各人有各人既口味, 佢話好味既野, 大家未必覺得好味.
不過, 佢介紹過既食肆就真係多左人慕名而去幫襯既, 蘇施黃佢真係有一定既影響力的.
作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2009-12-6 23:05

本帖最後由 ACC-HE 於 2009-12-7 00:07 編輯

影響力?  HK ppl have no brain, they will go wherever ppl go, do whatever ppl do, buy whatever ppl buy.

羊群....

Most of them has little or no taste bud, 'cause they're too busy to enjoy food.

oh no, I suddenly feel like Toppy on HK board... haha
作者: Catpiano 時間: 2009-12-6 23:12

Oh . 蘇施黃??

Oh well ..  then no comment ..

I remember she said food in Edmonton is good tim .. LOL
作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-6 23:16

本帖最後由 somewhereintime 於 2009-12-6 23:31 編輯

17# mcjohnjohn

I used to listen to her radio show back in 70's,
she is in entertaining biz, all right; from her TV food criticism, just loud mouth with little understanding of food.
Taste is subjective, you can say you like or dislike some food, but you cannot condemn professionals without a valid point.
作者: 毅字 時間: 2009-12-6 23:22

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作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2009-12-6 23:32

影響力?  HK ppl have no brain, they will go wherever ppl go, do whatever ppl do, buy whatever ppl buy.

羊群....

Most of them has little or no taste bud, 'cause they're too busy to enjoy food.

oh no, I suddenly feel like Toppy on HK board... haha
ACC-HE 發表於 2009-12-7 15:05

咁又唔係咁講既~
基本上, 阿蘇話有好野食既地方, 我都唔會專登去. 因為, 小弟相信我已經搵到一個全香港最佳總廚 - 我既內子!
老婆煮既野幾時都係最好食的, 不過, 自從囡囡出左世, 我地都冇乜閒情日子玩煮飯仔了.
作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-6 23:47

9# sheep

My uncle  Ah Yat  told me a little story:
2 years ago, he was asked to prepare 6  platter of  Appetizer, 6 varieties of abalone cut into bite-size pieces, HK$50,000 each tray.
for visiting officials and tycoons  from Beijing. Half  of which  left untouched.
作者: 毅字 時間: 2009-12-6 23:50

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作者: miga 時間: 2009-12-6 23:51

仲有越南豪 c9﹐午餐同兩個小朋友 (十歲以下) 一人叫一隻鮑魚送飯
Littleprince 發表於 2009-12-6 23:32

兩個小朋友再加多一人一部 portable dvd機連8吋mon, 一路睇住卡通片一路食鮑魚, 我真係見過.
作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-7 06:08

楊貫一﹖
毅字發表於 2009-12-6 23:50

One and  the Only one
作者: 毅字 時間: 2009-12-7 08:43

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作者: peter236 時間: 2009-12-7 10:35

咁又唔係咁講既~
基本上, 阿蘇話有好野食既地方, 我都唔會專登去. 因為, 小弟相信我已經搵到一個全香港最佳總廚 - 我既內子!
老婆煮既野幾時都係最好食的, 不過, 自從囡囡出左世, 我地都冇乜閒情日 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2009-12-7 00:32

Come here, we have very good food here.
作者: peter236 時間: 2009-12-7 10:37

9# sheep

My uncle  Ah Yat  told me a little story:
2 years ago, he was asked to prepare 6  platter of  Appetizer, 6 varieties of abalone cut into bite-size pieces, HK$50,000 each tray.
for visiti ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-12-7 00:47

Why don't you set up an abalone restaurant here? You have all the skills.
作者: peter236 時間: 2009-12-7 10:44

Oh . 蘇施黃??

Oh well ..  then no comment ..

I remember she said food in Edmonton is good tim .. LOL
Catpiano 發表於 2009-12-7 00:12

She said she graduated from Univ of Alberta. Went back there for visit 10 yrs after graduation. Then after another 20 yrs, recently went back there again. Clearly, she thinks Canada culinary scene is too boring.
作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-7 11:32

27# 毅字

The one on Granville street has nothing to do with the Forum Hong Kong 1977.
My uncle has only 1  protege in Vancouver, that is the chef at Sea Harbour.
作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-7 11:36

29# peter236

I did not learn from him, actually he was only a restaurateur when I left Hong Kong.
I do not think it is feasible to open a top class Chinese in Vancouver at this moment,
the market is not ready and I do not have money to burn.
作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-7 11:37

30# peter236

For Chinese restaurant circle, she  is right
作者: hangfat 時間: 2009-12-7 14:37

1# hangfat

It is not that  we lack of fine chefs and restaurateurs in Vancouver, there is a very small market for
High end Chinese restaurant to survive.
4-5 years ago some restaurants featured $2, ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-12-6 22:12

the most famous chef ever worked  in vancouver was called lam kam shing, is now working in peking.
he used to work at the down town hotel called new world. then work at the one on west broadway
on the ground floor of holiday inn.
作者: Ultraman 時間: 2009-12-7 16:15

She knows cooking? No kidding me la!
作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-7 17:30

Ah So has about 20 video clips on the Youtube,
her cooking , well, similar to Maria Cadero, C9 style
作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2009-12-7 17:41

Ah So has about 20 video clips on the Youtube,
her cooking , well, similar to Maria Cadero, C9 style
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-12-8 09:30

C9 style is not bad, very suitable for my mum to cook at home.
My mum likes "ah so" programs  very much!
作者: 羽山 時間: 2009-12-8 11:40

可能是我接觸飲茶是在溫哥華

所以覺得新瑞華華榮(龍井軒)  的飲茶不錯
其他溫哥華的飲茶都不好吃

may去香港也許沒有到高級的茶樓去
所以覺得香港的茶樓並沒有太特別好吃
作者: superberry 時間: 2009-12-8 11:57

Few years ago, I went to the Chinese Restaurant @ Regent in Hong Kong (the one Kelly Chen got married). Dim Sum was great. However, the Chinese restaurant in Vancouver can produce the same quality but mush better price. For Dim Sum, Vancouver is better. For cheaper food such as "Abardeen Fish Ball Rice Noodle", Hong Kong is much much much better!
作者: 羽山 時間: 2009-12-8 11:59

Few years ago, I went to the Chinese Restaurant @ Regent in Hong Kong (the one Kelly Chen got married). Dim Sum was great. However, the Chinese restaurant in Vancouver can produce the same quality but ...
superberry 發表於 2009-12-8 12:57

totally agree.
dim sun vancouver better
普通小食 hk better

any one try 傭記in HK?
作者: 毅字 時間: 2009-12-8 14:11

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作者: sheep 時間: 2009-12-8 14:17

14# Littleprince

Ah So, is that the outspoken DJ and " Gourmet"?  from Hong Kong?
and she teaches cooking in HK as well.  I really doubt her taste.
One of her famous slogan is  "Only incompetent co ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-12-6 23:49

She also said that, steam live fish never add ginger to it.
Only fish that are not fresh need ginger.
作者: sheep 時間: 2009-12-8 14:19

影響力?  HK ppl have no brain, they will go wherever ppl go, do whatever ppl do, buy whatever ppl buy.

羊群....

Most of them has little or no taste bud, 'cause they're too busy to enjoy food.

oh ...
ACC-HE 發表於 2009-12-7 00:05

Hey, Y me?
作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-8 14:39

42# sheep

The use of ginger , garlic, shallots and scallion it to enhance the natural flavour,  but
not to cover up the foul taste of inferior quality or spoiled product.
There are certain fish you should not use ginger, but dried tangerine peel instead.
作者: 羽山 時間: 2009-12-8 15:55

乳山一D都唔似香港人
毅字發表於 2009-12-8 15:11

I am Canadian
作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-8 16:01

I am Canadian
羽山發表於 2009-12-8 15:55

CBC??
作者: sheep 時間: 2009-12-8 16:01

42# sheep

The use of ginger , garlic, shallots and scallion it to enhance the natural flavour,  but
not to cover up the foul taste of inferior quality or spoiled product.
There are certain fish y ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-12-8 15:39

Yes, kind like sole?
作者: sheep 時間: 2009-12-8 16:02

泥掹
作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-8 16:05

You got it
作者: hangfat 時間: 2009-12-9 08:18

Few years ago, I went to the Chinese Restaurant @ Regent in Hong Kong (the one Kelly Chen got married). Dim Sum was great. However, the Chinese restaurant in Vancouver can produce the same quality but ...
superberry 發表於 2009-12-8 12:57

there's no way that vancouver's dim sum is better, just the freshness of the ingredients make a lot of difference.
remember that we sometimes feel the food is better here is we compare the best ones here with below average ones in hk, and the average ones in hk are not too comfortable to dine in, hence we have the feeling that the food are not great as well.
a new one star michelin guide dim sum place charges only hk$16 for har kaw, average price around hk$20, but it's so crowded there that i doubt many of us here would enjoy it that much!
one advantage or disadvantage we have here is that the high end restaurants don't charge that much more than low end ones, unlike in hk, the prices can be many times over.
作者: nabeyaki 時間: 2009-12-9 08:47

people will have their own personal taste, some can say good but some cannot. The only things is you go to the restaurant you like.
作者: Littleprince 時間: 2009-12-9 09:01

She also said that, steam live fish never add ginger to it.
Only fish that are not fresh need ginger.
sheep 發表於 2009-12-8 15:17

唔係提出一D同人唔同的見解就代表識食的﹐人人口味不同而已﹐無必要認同她啊

食野我都係比較認同蔡瀾的。
作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-9 09:13

52# Littleprince

Her theories on her show are surely entertaining.
Usually I do not take those shows seriously, but
there are  certain concepts needed to be clarified.
There were some really good cooking teachers back in
60's and 70's like 譚國梅  李曾超群 but now everyone considers
themselves diva of cooking shows
作者: superberry 時間: 2009-12-9 11:07

50# hangfat

That's why I compare the high end dim sum in Vancouver (such as Kirin) with a 5 (or 6, no idea) star hotel in Hong Kong. The quality of the food and comfortability of the environment are quite similar (except you can't see the harbour in the high end restaurants in Vancouver). However, the price is much better in Vancouver.
作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-9 11:17

54# superberry

I don't think the high-end dim sum in Vancouver is decent, they are comparable to
2nd. or 3rd. grade in Hong Kong. and except for a handful of restaurant, the tea is
generally low grade. While the middle of the road dim sum are acceptable and
very inexpensive.
Another reason is that the owner/management  are reluctant to use quality ingredients,
good dim sum relied on good ingredients, the low-quality imported pork surely cannot
compare with the fresh pork used in restaurants in Hong Kong.
作者: Littleprince 時間: 2009-12-9 11:53

54# superberry

I don't think the high-end dim sum in Vancouver is decent, they are comparable to
2nd. or 3rd. grade in Hong Kong. and except for a handful of restaurant, the tea is
generally low  ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-12-9 12:17

but we are already very satisfactory as I compared my experience with my 1st trip to Vancouver 15 yrs ago, it has a great improvement already, I am content and please think about those people living in small towns... I still remember the days when we travelled to Kelowna, etc., those Chinese foods were terrible
作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-9 13:10

56# Littleprince

That is the reason I said the middle of road Chinese restaurants in Metro  Vancouver
are acceptable and affordable.
I do not go for Dim Sum often, but I do know many restaurant operators.
作者: Catpiano 時間: 2009-12-9 13:20

Doesn't matter la..

Good food in Van .. and good food in HK ..  or Taiwan etc as well ..
We can eat in Van or HK or TW ...  yumm yumm!
作者: daimo 時間: 2009-12-9 13:32

唔係提出一D同人唔同的見解就代表識食的﹐人人口味不同而已﹐無必要認同她啊

食野我都係比較認同蔡瀾的。
Littleprince 發表於 2009-12-9 10:01

蔡瀾? ok la ... I won't use him as an absolute reference.  He has his bias.

I have been wondering why he doesn't talk about Ah-Yut at all. (if I'm not mistaken)
作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-9 14:08

58# Catpiano

What's good to eat in Cow Town other than steak?
作者: Catpiano 時間: 2009-12-9 15:14

58# Catpiano

What's good to eat in Cow Town other than steak?
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-12-9 15:08

Ham? Cold cut? Cheese? Cup noodle? etc ...
作者: hangfat 時間: 2009-12-9 15:43

54# superberry

another thing about restaurants here is the standard varies day to day, one day is quite good, the next day could be quite different that you feel you were in new restaurant ! that's why i stop recommending restaurants to friends. even kirin are indifference which is not acceptable as i  feel that they're one of the better ones here, and you cannot pick one here against one in hk.
作者: CWong 時間: 2009-12-9 16:21

家陣有得食就好食多D，仲咁多要求做乜！第時冇得食就知而家食到嘅其实已經好矜貴！
作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-10 15:13

63# CWong

I do not worry too much, as long as there are supplies of dry staples and clean water,
I will not starve.
作者: Littleprince 時間: 2009-12-10 21:54

家陣有得食就好食多D，仲咁多要求做乜！第時冇得食就知而家食到嘅其实已經好矜貴！
CWong 發表於 2009-12-9 17:21

但點解第時會無得食呀﹖ 難道會打仗﹖﹖
作者: tofu 時間: 2009-12-10 22:54

i think we need to compare apple to apple.  compare the price as well.  even kirin cost $30-40/person for dim sum, which is way cheaper than 2nd or 3rd grade dim sum place in hk.  years ago, i was in a 3rd or 4th grade restaurant in hk(no view) and we paid ~$80cad/person, just dim sum.  the food is good, but not excellent.  but the price is scary.  so i won't complain our food here.
作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-12-11 00:01

66# tofu

That is what I said, the Chinese food in Vancouver are acceptable and affordable,
and I seldom complain.
作者: hangfat 時間: 2009-12-11 08:25

i think we need to compare apple to apple.  compare the price as well.  even kirin cost $30-40/person for dim sum, which is way cheaper than 2nd or 3rd grade dim sum place in hk.  years ago, i was in  ...
tofu 發表於 2009-12-10 23:54

no way you paid 80can/person in a 2nd grade restaurant in hk. that's more than hk 500/person!!!
i just read an article from a retired government officer who's doing a series of food articles in the paper, he paid hk1,100 for 5 people for dim sum lunch, that's can30/person, and it's a top class restaurant although with no view.
average cost of a dim sum plate at fook lam mom is around can6$, hows that compare with here?
作者: mui122 時間: 2009-12-11 08:37

actually dim sum at chinese restaurants at IFC can cost u up to 500/person
作者: mui122 時間: 2009-12-11 08:38

and btw about vancouver food being bad.. having lived in hk for 2 years.. I can't disagree more...
unless shes's talking about siu mei (ie. chasiu) then i agree
作者: hangfat 時間: 2009-12-11 20:37

good food blog from hk
http://gourmetkc.blogspot.com
作者: hangfat 時間: 2009-12-11 21:17

900 hk$ for dim sum lunch for two at lung king heen,
the most expensive dim sum lunch place in hk, a michelin 3 star restaurant.
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/ikumichan/13144156
作者: hangfat 時間: 2009-12-11 21:28

lunch at fook lam moon
check their prices http://www.wretch.cc/blog/ikumichan/13144156
作者: peter236 時間: 2009-12-11 21:39

lunch at fook lam moon
check their prices http://www.wretch.cc/blog/ikumichan/13144156
hangfat 發表於 2009-12-11 22:28

These Chinese fine dining style are very yummy.

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