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作者: yokult    時間: 2010-1-3 12:00     標題: 渣車新法例

我知道唔比用手渣住電話o黎講。我想問下 text message, email, check iphone D app 得唔得?

如果通通都唔得﹐即係GPS都唔比用﹐GPS 係 built into my iphone 架wor
作者: myversa    時間: 2010-1-3 12:08

the answer is no no no.

You can put your iphone on the deck and use the gps.

I think as long as you are holding a phone while driving then it is a no-no.
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-1-3 12:11

你係唔可以一路行 一路較個GPS
一早set好就用得
作者: yokult    時間: 2010-1-3 12:18

thank you for the instant replies.
作者: masterbear    時間: 2010-1-3 12:23

我知道唔比用手渣住電話o黎講。我想問下 text message, email, check iphone D app 得唔得?

如果通通都唔得﹐即係GPS都唔比用﹐GPS 係 built into my iphone 架wor
yokult 發表於 2010-1-3 13:00

None of the above but u can set a All u can eat buffet dinner inside your car whenever u drive and eat at the same time
作者: yokult    時間: 2010-1-3 13:15

haha yeah, what about ipod, ipod touch, or just a regular GPS? Are those allowed? :-I
作者: 嘉嘉    時間: 2010-1-3 13:15

or you can still read and write in ur car while driving, yay
作者: yokult    時間: 2010-1-3 13:20

Oh, it sounds like they are banning any electronic device that requires more than 1 touch to activate.

"only hands-free cellphones and devices that require one touch to activate will be permitted. "
"Simply put, you cannont talk, type or dial on any hand-held device while driving."

http://www.theprovince.com/news/ ... /2129476/story.html
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-1-3 13:43

I want to ask .... did u usually "text message, email, check iphone D app" while you are driving?
It just sounds dangerous.....
作者: yokult    時間: 2010-1-3 14:00

9# 布小熊

I did that all the time while stopping on red light. I am sure lots of others do the same.
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-1-3 14:22

10# yokult

I though you mean driving down the hwy. Cos I have seen ppl do that.....
作者: 快樂牛郎    時間: 2010-1-3 14:38

good change
but let's see how strictly they will enforce it

maybe make it $1000 a pop, since it's good revenue for the government
作者: masterbear    時間: 2010-1-3 17:06

good change
but let's see how strictly they will enforce it

maybe make it $1000 a pop, since it's good revenue for the government
快樂牛郎 發表於 2010-1-3 15:38

too less! How about one more circle and make it $10,000. If driver didn't break the law, they don't have to worry?
作者: 快樂牛郎    時間: 2010-1-3 17:46

too less! How about one more circle and make it $10,000. If driver didn't break the law, they don't have to worry?
masterbear 發表於 2010/1/3 17:06


but with a $10K penalty i think the applications for traffic police will go up 10 times next year
haha
作者: 大C姐    時間: 2010-1-3 18:32

我部車內置bluetooth所以我一路渣車都唔會搞電話﹐因為真係好分心。

其實如果你停燈真係要SMS的話﹐不如打電話仲快啦﹗
作者: GATSE    時間: 2010-1-3 19:34

what if 停燈打電話? Are we allowed?
作者: pkphilip    時間: 2010-1-3 19:58

You can also do your make-up while driving, it is still legal. :-D

Philip
作者: fibbi    時間: 2010-1-3 20:16

dumb question here....
one touch dial = one key press? or one button is ok? my "button" is a dial that can "dial to the contact list" and press to call...that sounds ok then?
作者: myversa    時間: 2010-1-3 21:32

just do not let them catch you holding phone while driving....

I think instead of parking tax, they should start to fine people jaywalking too.
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2010-1-3 23:37

No no ..  

But we can play Mah Jong, gel hair, eating buffet etc ...
作者: 紅豆冰    時間: 2010-1-3 23:42

Any good hearing quality of bluetooth headset recommend?
作者: siumaibb    時間: 2010-1-4 10:06

you can do all of the above as long as no cops see you. but for other people's safety sake you really shouldn't.
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-1-4 11:31

i don't usually answer my cell while driving.. cos my drive to work is only 5 min.
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2010-1-4 12:27

I think the idea of "one touch/press" is, for example your cell phone rings, you "touch/press" a button/screen only once to answer; or you only "touch/press" once to make a call. (that means your phone shouldn't be in any of "sleep" mode, and you can only use "quick dial" but not to search for contacts...etc.)
Therefore, if you need to turn on/activate the phone with one touch/press first and then to press again to answer or make a call, technically you already offended the law, and you'll be fined for $167 plus 3 points deducted once you get caught. (grace period until Feb 01, 2010)

The law didn't say expressively if you cannot hotpot or buffet or do makeup while driving. However, cops can still charge you for dangerous driving up to their judgment if they like.
作者: myversa    時間: 2010-1-4 12:33

i don't usually answer my cell while driving.. cos my drive to work is only 5 min.
布小熊 發表於 2010-1-4 12:31


it actually depends if you are lucky or not...

I got caught not wearing a seat belt 30 seconds after I started my engine and drove out of my parking space...
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-1-4 12:52

it actually depends if you are lucky or not...

I got caught not wearing a seat belt 30 seconds after I started my engine and drove out of my parking space...
myversa 發表於 2010-1-4 01:33 PM

i don't mean I won't get caught... I mean, I won't be answering or making any call. Cos I can wait till I got home or back to the office to do it.
作者: fibbi    時間: 2010-1-4 12:53

Well...I guess I'd ok to answer phone call...since it's one touch receive ...
But dialing...still need to "search the contact list"...unless I take out the phone and do one-touch dialing, to me it still seems pretty dangerous, even though it's ok w/ the law.
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2010-1-4 13:03

For example:
The phone is in "speaker mode" and standby mode, one press to answer a call and talk with the speaker.
A bluetooth headset is hooked, press once to answer a call.
Either speaker mode or bluetooth headset is on, press once to activate "voice dialing".
All the above situations are not that dangerous.
Even people are not dialing or browsing or talking on phone, just chatting with passengers in the car with their heads turning around/back and forth could be more dangerous.
(PS: I don't encourage or discourage people taking on phone while driving, just stating out some facts. People should have their own judgment if it's safe for them to do so.)
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-1-4 13:09

24# Ultraman


I saw someone eating chow Hor Fun with chopsticks while driving, and drinking bubble at the same time.
作者: CWong    時間: 2010-1-4 13:13

撩鼻屎都仲可以！
作者: myversa    時間: 2010-1-4 13:13

I guess this is not dangerous?

作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-1-4 13:15

31# myversa


Mr. Bean?
作者: myversa    時間: 2010-1-4 13:17

32# somewhereintime

ya.  the infamous Mr. Bean.
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2010-1-4 13:33

I guess there are many GREY area ..

Is talking on cell phone and drive more dangerous then having HOT POT and driving?  not really .. but it is illegal to talk on phone, but not hot pot ..

Same as speed limited ..  doing 110km/hr in a new Ferrari is way more SAFER then doing 99km/hr on a 30 yr old LADA .... but one is illegal, one is not.
作者: tofu    時間: 2010-1-4 18:58

hm....i don't think "search the contact list" is allowed.  as i understand, you can only use speed dial which you can only press one key to make your call

compare to the 30yr old LADA driver, the ferrair driver has better ability to pay for the speeding ticket ma.
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2010-1-4 20:51

u know what ,, it is true, and should be same in Van ..

When someone drives a super crappy car, police won't give him a ticket .. since he can't afford to pay. ( if in US, they will do a TV show)

Also, when someone drives a super nice Ferrari or Lambo .. Police won't give him a ticket too .. ( big guy! Police will chicken! )
作者: Monkii    時間: 2010-1-4 21:04

本帖最後由 Monkii 於 2010-1-4 22:15 編輯

Yes, many things people suggested here you can do while driving and not part of the cellphone ban law...

But please remember there are other charges called "Dangerous Driving" and "Careless Driving" any police can put on you if you are a threat to public safety. This is under provincial offence code, not part of motor vehicle act like the cellphone ban.
http://www.defencelaw.com/careless-driving.html
Fine starts at $200 with panelty in higher insurance rate...so you might be better off on the phone than having hotpot...or all you can eat buffet...
作者: noa    時間: 2010-1-4 21:49

原來電視都唔睇得.....

http://www.bclaws.ca/Recon/docum ... ons/35_308_2009.xml
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2010-1-4 22:03

The laws are there, and they're straight. Just people used to ignore them.
作者: sko    時間: 2010-1-4 23:33

hm....i don't think "search the contact list" is allowed.  as i understand, you can only use speed dial which you can only press one key to make your call

compare to the 30yr old LADA driver, the fer ...
tofu 發表於 2010-1-4 19:58


what about searching the "contact list" in your gps/idrive system? technically not a phone though..
作者: myversa    時間: 2010-1-4 23:42

it says any electronic device...
作者: komoriuta    時間: 2010-1-5 00:16

唔比講電話,
但可以同你旁邊個傾計,拖手仔
聽音樂超大聲,
雙手食飯盒,用elbow control wheel
作者: noa    時間: 2010-1-5 01:09

what about searching the "contact list" in your gps/idrive system? technically not a phone though..
sko 發表於 2010-1-5 00:33


開車前search定, 總之唔好比見到你一路開車一路搞個mon...

另外, electronic devices 指
- electronic devices that include a hands-free telephone function;
- global positioning systems;
- hand-held electronic devices, one of the purposes of which is to process or compute data;
- hand-held audio players;
- hand microphones;
- televisions.
作者: tequila    時間: 2010-1-5 22:18

I want to ask .... did u usually "text message, email, check iphone D app" while you are driving?
It just sounds dangerous.....
布小熊 發表於 3-1-2010 01:43 PM



i text while i drive all the time, doesn't matter if it's red light or green light
作者: tequila    時間: 2010-1-5 22:26

so does that mean people who has navigation in their car can't use the function as well? i think it will be hard for people to follow this.... they might as well just band people from talking while driving
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2010-1-5 22:36

i text while i drive all the time, doesn't matter if it's red light or green light
tequila 發表於 2010-1-5 22:18

Want to show off how skillful your driving technique is? Show to cops!
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2010-1-5 22:39

so does that mean people who has navigation in their car can't use the function as well? i think it will be hard for people to follow this.... they might as well just band people from talking while dr ...
tequila 發表於 2010-1-5 22:26

Did you read/listen well? All devices should be well set before you depart, and you really shouldn't distract from any of those device but to concentrate on driving. If anyone thinks being a responsible driver is kind of silly and is not capable to, better don't drive.
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2010-1-5 22:45

Did you read/listen well? All devices should be well set before you depart, and you really shouldn't distract from any of those device but to concentrate on driving. If anyone thinks being a responsi ...
Ultraman 發表於 2010-1-6 14:39

你好惡, 但好有道理!
作者: fibbi    時間: 2010-1-5 22:52

其實都啱架，最好開車唔準講電話，真係會分心架。
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2010-1-5 22:55

你好惡, 但好有道理!
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-1-5 22:45

I believe nobody have rights to put other people's lives at risk mah.
作者: tofu    時間: 2010-1-5 23:37

question?  can i press the forward/backward button on my mp3?  we can press the f/b button on the installed audio system, but mp3 is an electric devices.
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-1-5 23:53

i text while i drive all the time, doesn't matter if it's red light or green light
tequila 發表於 2010-1-5 11:18 PM

sorry but I will say it again... It is dangerous. To you and to other ppl on the road.
作者: tequila    時間: 2010-1-5 23:55

Did you read/listen well? All devices should be well set before you depart, and you really shouldn't distract from any of those device but to concentrate on driving. If anyone thinks being a responsi ...
Ultraman 發表於 5-1-2010 10:39 PM


hv u use a navigation before? even if u did set before you depart, there are times that the device will tell you to change the route and the device needs you to press a button or two....
作者: sko    時間: 2010-1-5 23:56

本帖最後由 sko 於 2010-1-6 01:02 編輯

my old car used to disable the navigation system whenever the car was in drive; very inconvenient because even the passenger could not function it (had to wait for the short-lived red lights or to pull over in the middle of nowhere to activate the gps).

ps, and of course, the driver shouldn't be punching in new addresses or stuff like that when the car is in motion.
作者: myversa    時間: 2010-1-6 00:01

let's put it this way; as long as the cops do not see you, you will not be fined; otherwise, tough luck.
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2010-1-6 00:31

hv u use a navigation before? even if u did set before you depart, there are times that the device will tell you to change the route and the device needs you to press a button or two....
tequila 發表於 2010-1-5 23:55

I've been using different GPS devices and they'll all automatically re-calculate the routes if needed, without any button needed to be pressed again. Maybe it's about the price and how latest version of the device is, then I don't know.
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2010-1-6 00:39

question?  can i press the forward/backward button on my mp3?  we can press the f/b button on the installed audio system, but mp3 is an electric devices.
tofu 發表於 2010-1-5 23:37

I think technically, you can press any button of any device just ONCE.
Other thoughts, we might need to press/switch/turn on or off A/C, power window, radio, vent's switch, music volume.....etc from time to time anyways. In case you get caught for any reason, if you don't have any external device in sight, cops can't say anything. But if you have a device attached somewhere in sight, even you only pressed a button once but the cop says he saw you pressed twice, it's difficult to give proof. Just drive safe in a smart way.
作者: yokult    時間: 2010-1-6 10:14

好似上堂食野甘，靜雞雞做。
無人睇到就乜都得.
作者: fibbi    時間: 2010-1-6 10:23

53# tequila


I am using Tom Tom navigation and it never asks me to press a button once the destination is set. And that's done before take off the trip. The only time I press something during the trip is that when I want to change day/night colour scheme. But I do it as passenger, not as the driver.
作者: tequila    時間: 2010-1-7 17:45

I've been using different GPS devices and they'll all automatically re-calculate the routes if needed, without any button needed to be pressed again. Maybe it's about the price and how latest version ...
Ultraman 發表於 6-1-2010 12:31 AM


it's actually build in with the car navigation.... if there is a change on the route... then it will re-calculate but it will also offer u the direct route or other options.... that's one problem. another problem is, they say one touch dial right? usually people who doesn't hv flip/slide phones would need to unlock their phones first... that's already consider as one touch right? one touch to unlock another touch to speed dial
作者: fibbi    時間: 2010-1-7 18:51

60# tequila


That's true too, need to take out phone first, unlock and then dial....
So the best is to NOT dial any phone...only receive call then it's truly "one touch".

Regarding GPS software...time to get a tom tom
作者: tofu    時間: 2010-1-7 20:07

本帖最後由 tofu 於 2010-1-7 21:09 編輯

"""usually people who doesn't hv flip/slide phones would need to unlock their phones first... that's already consider as one touch right? one touch to unlock another touch to speed dial"""

you can deactivate the "automatic keylock" function, therefore you don't need to unlock the phone before the one touch dial.

lucky, i am using a germin gps and doesn't has this problem, maybe you should check with your gps mauf. and see is there any software update to eliminate this problem.
作者: tequila    時間: 2010-1-7 22:36

60# tequila


That's true too, need to take out phone first, unlock and then dial....
So the best is to NOT dial any phone...only receive call then it's truly "one touch".

Regarding GPS software... ...
fibbi 發表於 7-1-2010 06:51 PM


the navigation came with the car when it was purchased.... so i dont think u can change it? but i don't wanna change my navigation to another one with all the installation and stuff just because of this new rule
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2010-1-7 22:53

Even for the built-in system, is it possible to just ignore for what the change is and it will still do it's own routing without any button needs to be pressed?

For the flip/slide style phone, as someone already said, can you simply pre-flip/slide the phone and put in on a car mount, set it as stand-by mode, so in case there is any incoming call you can just simply press any button once to answer it?

In case any phone doesn't come with speaker feature, people would need to use a corded or bluetooth head set anyways. So you can keep your flip/slide phone in "close" position anyways. Why it is a problem?!
作者: tequila    時間: 2010-1-8 17:48

it's not like the police gonna catch people taking their phones out and flipping their phones open or unlocking the phone anyways... my point is that they hv this a rule but yet different ways to go in between. they enforcued a rule about driving using a head set... but i think eating while driving, smoking, arguing with the passenger is just as unsafe as talking on the phone... why don't they consider putting a rule on those?
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2010-1-8 21:26

it's not like the police gonna catch people taking their phones out and flipping their phones open or unlocking the phone anyways... my point is that they hv this a rule but yet different ways to go i ...
tequila 發表於 2010-1-8 17:48

No need to have any extra action, just sneezing or day dreaming can kill! How can police/government forbid drivers from sneezing or day dreaming? The concept is, be a responsible driver! If you think eating and/or drinking and/or talking and/or putting make up ... etc while driving and/or use your elbow or thigh to drive...... or whatever action is still confident and responsible to yourself and your passengers and other drivers and pedestrians, how can other people stop you?!



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