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作者: Dragonair 時間: 2010-1-22 07:42 標題: 8型號油門或失靈豐田汽車回收

2010年1月22日

【明報專訊】加拿大豐田公司(Toyota Canada Inc.)周四宣布﹐大規模回收8種型號的汽車﹐因為它們的油門可能失靈﹐加拿大已有5宗相關報告。

此次召回的豐田汽車﹐包括暢銷的RAV4、Camry、Matrix及Corolla型號。

該公司發表新聞稿說﹕「我們的調查顯示﹐存在一種可能性﹐某些汽車的油門踏板結構﹐在罕見情況下或於半途卡住﹐或返回空轉原位時速度緩慢。」

加拿大豐田對外事務總裁迪費利斯(Sandy Di Felice)說﹐現在還不清楚﹐加拿大有多少車輛受此影響。但因同一原故﹐豐田公司已在美國宣布召回230萬輛汽車。

該公司說﹐這一問題很罕見﹐但當油門踏板結構磨損時﹐有時的確會出現。這時油門會變得「更難踩下﹐返回原位時速度更慢﹐在最壞的情況下﹐於半途卡住。」

迪費利斯說﹐目前加拿大已有5宗發生故障的報告。發現這類問題的司機﹐應穩定、持續的對油門施力﹐避免反覆踩踏油門﹐然後將車開到安全地點﹐並關閉引擎。

豐田發言人漢森(John Hanson)說﹐豐田汽車仍未有解決方法﹐但正致力研究。漢森補充﹐最新召回汽車使用的油門系統﹐都是來自單一供應商﹐但他拒絕說明供應商是誰﹐只說豐田會和它繼續業務往來。

消費者可致電他們的豐田汽車代理商﹐了解此次回收的詳情﹐或致電1-888-869-6828﹐也可瀏覽網站www.toyota.ca。

美國豐田公司說﹐此次召回與去年9月回收並不相同﹐當時豐田公司說﹐油門踏板可能被鬆動或安裝錯誤的腳墊卡住。

回收的8型號包括﹕

●2009-2010 RAV4

●2009-2010 Corolla

●2009-2010 Matrix

●2005-2010 Avalon

●2007-2010 Camry

●2010 Highlander

●2007-2010 Tundra

●2008-2010 Sequoia

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-1-22 08:20

Are they all made in Canada/US?

I still remember the glory day from Toyota in the 80's ... not anymore ...

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2010-1-22 12:44

I had no good feelings about "drive by wire" when it first came out...so I guess my intuition was right...BUT I'm driving with drive-by-wire now....sigh

give me cable throttle back!

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-1-22 13:12

Toyota... too ambitious and expanded too fast la. Lost its grip on QC and gave into cost cutting...

Karma, man...

-Lik

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-1-22 13:30

"油門系統﹐都是來自單一供應商﹐但他拒絕說明供應商是誰"
this is lame, should customer have the right to know whose the supplier
probably big 6

作者: spoonek4 時間: 2010-1-22 14:07

I had no good feelings about "drive by wire" when it first came out...so I guess my intuition was right...BUT I'm driving with drive-by-wire now....sigh

give me cable throttle back!
shutterbug 發表於 2010-1-22 13:44

好多生產商整出黎既車都有呢一類safety recall 架啦！冇可能話造一部車出黎永遠都係perfect，toyota 同honda 已經算係好少見有大獲野發生。

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2010-1-22 14:37

好多生產商整出黎既車都有呢一類safety recall 架啦！冇可能話造一部車出黎永遠都係perfect，toyota 同honda 已經算係好少見有大獲野發生。
spoonek4 發表於 2010-1-22 15:07

Of course I understand that. The thing that I don't like is the concept of drive by wire not the QC.

cable plus TPS is safer and less expensive to fix IMO

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2010-1-22 14:42

I thought it has to do with factory carpet (or custom 3rd party carpet) slips underneath the gas pedal...

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-1-22 15:23

No wonder ..

When my wife took our stupid GX for service last week .. they removed the floormat from the car ... said "COULD BE" a problem .. but so far, the GX is not on the list ....

作者: Dragonair 時間: 2010-1-22 20:24

toyota webpage said it's only "Voluntary Safety Recall "... seems not a big deal.

But "豐田汽車仍未有解決方法".. then what will they do after recall? remove the mat only?

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-1-22 21:18

Looks like those Toyota models that are made in China are of higher quality and therefore not recalled.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-1-22 21:20

Looks like those Toyota models that are made in China are of higher quality and therefore not recalled.
peter236 發表於 2010-1-22 22:18

Not only HIGHER ...

But HIGHEST tim .... lol...

(Is it such a thing .. call "RECALL" in Great CHINA? )

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-1-22 21:22

Not only HIGHER ...

But HIGHEST tim .... lol...

(Is it such a thing .. call "RECALL" in Great CHINA? )
Catpiano 發表於 2010-1-22 22:20

nah, it is the car manufacturer itself that is responsible for doing the recall. Since Toyota is such a responsible company, they would have recalled the cars in China, if necessary.

作者: kipposhi 時間: 2010-1-23 21:50

Perhaps, lower standard is set by the Chinese government.

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2010-1-26 16:23

本帖最後由 ACC-HE 於 2010-1-26 17:24 編輯

@News1130 BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: Canadian sales suspended - 8 models: RAV4, Highlander, Sequoia SUVs; Corolla, Matrix, Camry, Avalons; Tundra pickups

Wow...

作者: 小叻 時間: 2010-1-26 20:32

甘大鑊?? 最近諗住睇下架RAV4添 >__<
想請問下Mitsubishi 既 Outlander 好唔好 ?? 我覺得架Outlander 生得幾靚仔~~ thx

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-1-29 13:45

Looks like those Toyota models that are made in China are of higher quality and therefore not recalled.
peter236 發表於 2010-1-22 22:18

Toyota, the world's biggest carmaker, is recalling almost 690,000 cars made in China...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8217522.stm
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125110577595053307.html

and this recall will happen in China too,
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2 ... s/main6149712.shtml

Toyota has informed Chinese authorities it will start a recall in February for 75,500 RAV4 sport utility vehicles that were manufactured in China between March 2009 and January 2010, said Toyota spokeswoman Ririko Takeuchi.

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-2-2 09:02

維修過程僅半小時出現毛病車輛優先 2010年2月2日

(加新社1日電)豐田公司已宣布維修汽車油門踏板方案﹐如果你是豐田車主﹐受1月21日回收令影響﹐須留意下述信息﹕

*如何安排汽車維修﹖

在本周末前﹐你或會收到經銷商的電話。如需了解更多資料﹐可聯絡你惠顧的經銷商﹔

*維修油門踏板需時多久﹖

本周末開始維修﹐預計1個月內全部完成。已出現問題的車輛優先修理﹐維修過程僅30分鐘﹔

*維修油門踏板收費若干﹖

車主不需支付維修費﹐所有費用由豐田承擔﹔

*如何維修﹖

技師在踏板系統加裝不鏽鋼加固條﹐減少油門的摩擦力﹔

*怎麼知道汽車要不要維修油門踏板﹖

需要維修的型號包括﹕2009-10 RAV4 crossover﹔2009-10 Corolla sedan﹔2009-10 Matrix hatchback﹔2005-10 Avalon﹔2007-10 Camry﹔2010 Highlander crossover﹔2007-10 Tundra pickup﹔2008-10 Sequoia SUV。並非所有Camry、RAV4、Corolla和Highlander都有問題﹐可找經銷商查詢具體細節。

日本生產的車型﹐美國生產的部分車型﹐其油門踏板系統由另一供應商生產﹐故沒有類似毛病﹔回收令涉及的所有Matrix﹑Avalon﹑Tundra和Sequoia都有油門問題。

作者: 羽山 時間: 2010-2-2 12:00

any one got the recall letter or phone call ?

我在一月有收到信
可是只是說maybe

and wait for further notice.

should i call toyota for repaire whatever if i did not receive the recall letter?

mycar is 07 camry

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-2-3 09:50

19# 羽山

sorry no idea. You better phone your dealer and ask them.

作者: daimo 時間: 2010-2-5 10:09

I still don't understand, if it's a design issue then why the gas paddles supplied by a different part supplier are not affected.

作者: B2L2 時間: 2010-2-5 11:29

Diff suppliers could have diff QC and tolerance. Have you seen OEM parts made by different supplier has different quality?

作者: daimo 時間: 2010-2-5 11:38

本帖最後由 daimo 於 2010-2-5 12:42 編輯

Diff suppliers could have diff QC and tolerance. Have you seen OEM parts made by different supplier has different quality?
B2L2 發表於 2010-2-5 12:29

of course I know what you meant.

if both vendor A and B produce the same product, and only vendor A's products get recalled, then it's not a design issue but a QC/tolerance issue (or vendor A just can't follow the spec, or vendor B just simply build things better than spec).

If both vendor A and B's products get recalled, that means it's a design issue.

The part that bugs me is that CTS claims that it's a Toyota design issue. So that means the same part made in Japan will also have the same issue. but the same cars with the japanese VIN aren't recalled!

So IMO it's a QC/tolerance issue instead of a design issue.

作者: B2L2 時間: 2010-2-5 12:07

This is what mentioned on the news: "Toyota said in certain rare cases, the gas pedal mechanism wears down, causing the accelerator to become harder to press, slower to return or, in some cases, stuck."

It could still be a design issue that strong material is not being used. Vendor A did it within spec, while vendor B over built it and make it stronger.

作者: daimo 時間: 2010-2-5 13:09

It could still be a design issue that strong material is not being used. Vendor A did it within spec, while vendor B over built it and make it stronger.
B2L2 發表於 2010-2-5 13:07

I could only wish that it's true ... my car is not on the recall list.

作者: B2L2 時間: 2010-2-5 13:51

Whether it is a design issue or QA issue, what's that matter to you?

作者: daimo 時間: 2010-2-5 14:29

QA issue makes me feel better.

Design issue makes me think that my car has a part that's poorly designed.

作者: B2L2 時間: 2010-2-5 15:03

For one who ever owns an America car, he owns a big pile of poorly designed parts. Nothing is prefect, so learn how to live with it. Don't worry too much. Haha...

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-2-5 18:51

It looks like the Chinese parts manufacturer have better quality than those US parts.
As of now, there are way more Toyota models recalled in the US than in China.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-2-9 16:36

Now there are taking a look at Corolla's steering wheel problems.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-2-12 21:40

Toyota now says it is voluntarily recalling Tacoma pickups in the United States to inspect the front drive shaft.

作者: Quest 時間: 2010-2-13 08:26

The supplier of most truck parts incl. NA built Toyotas (Dana) have quality control issues.

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