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作者: myversa 時間: 2010-3-9 08:33 標題: 大溫最髒餐廳逾半華人經營

http://van.worldjournal.com/view ... tance=bc_bull_left1

加國一家主要媒體8日的報導中，點名幾家「大溫最髒的餐廳」，超過一半由華人經營，其中更有客似雲來的港式及台式小館子式餐廳各一家。

大溫地區兩大衛生局「溫哥華海岸衛生局」（VCH）和「菲沙衛生局」（FHA）每年公布轄區內哪些餐廳曾因衛生問題被暫時關閉或遭警告。加拿大電視台（CTV）的報導追蹤過去三年的紀錄，找出屢犯的餐廳，點名報導了五家。

此期間大溫地區有超過90家餐廳因為衛生環境欠佳、蟲患、食物儲存不當等主要衛生問題遭關閉，通常是幾天內情況改善後即獲准重新開門營業。

報導指出，其中一家最髒的餐廳，過去三年共有六次發生蟲鼠為患問題，是菲沙衛生局轄區之最。

這家位於本拿比市威靈頓道（Willingdon Ave.）的台式館子門庭若市，也有顧客早已指出其衛生問題。

載錄顧客對本國餐廳評分及評語的加拿大餐飲網（dinehere.ca）中，顧客趙傑美（Jamie Chao，譯音）表示，這家餐廳的停車場堆滿廢棄物，充斥著一陣垃圾氣味。

店方表示，他們已即時對症下藥處理問題，餐廳外後方也可見捕鼠器。但可能因周遭環境，造成鼠患。

另一方面，衛生局對食物未適當冷藏、未適當清洗流理台、未為雇員提供洗手台等情況，雖是次要衛生問題，但也最容易忽略，曾發出數以百計的警告。

其中屢勸不改而被CTV列為最髒餐廳之一的一家港式小館，位在本拿比京士威道，頗獲消費者歡迎，在餐飲網以五星為最高的評比中，獲3.5星整體評分，顧客對其食物水準評分尤高。

這家餐廳在本拿比和溫哥華都有店面，兩家店在餐飲網獲同樣評分，但有評分者指出本拿比店的衛生問題，稱二店的衛生情況有天壤之別，本拿比店既髒又有一陣異味。

另兩家最髒餐廳都位於毒害為患的溫市中心東區，似受周遭環境影響至巨。

其中最令人欷歔的是位於喜士定東街的溫市最古老餐館「唯一海鮮餐廳」（The Only Seafood Cafe），它已因衛生問題嚴重並內有毒品，在去年中被吊銷商業執照關門大吉。

這家1924年開業、曾風光一時的餐廳在1998年由胡姓及黃姓兩位華人購得經營權，但他們沒法扭轉其沒落命運。

另一最髒廳餐是市中心東區一廉價旅館內的披薩店，老闆把缺乏乾淨飲水等問題歸咎於所在建築。

被點名的五家最髒餐廳，還有一家是素里一大型購物商場內的日、韓食品餐廳，它也是大溫紀錄最差餐廳之一，過去四年裡10次被評為屬於高衛生風險。

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-3-9 08:34

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/ ... hub=BritishColumbia

More than 90 restaurants in Metro Vancouver were told to close their doors after they were found with rodent infestations, unsanitary conditions, or a failure to store food properly, according to an investigation by CTV News.

And many more were repeatedly cited -- but not closed -- for other violations, the most common of which were leaving food out that should be refrigerated, failure to wash surfaces, and not providing hand washing stations to employees.

"We're looking for any signs that might lead us to believe there might be an outbreak of food poisoning," said Nick Losito, Vancouver Coastal Health's director of health protection.

CTV News examined restaurant inspection histories for the past three years in Metro Vancouver to find repeat offenders.

* Related: Check out your favourite restaurant at the Fraser Health or Vancouver Coastal Health websites

In the Vancouver Coastal Health region, the most common violations were improper cleaning of utensils, inadequate cooling of food that should be refrigerated, and lack of a food safety plan.

The businesses at the Balmoral Hotel in Vancouver's Downtown Eastside were shut down four times in four years. Three of those times were for water issues, including lack of potable water.

Esmaiel Hamzaei owns XL Pizza in the hotel. He told CTV News it was the building's issue, but he is often punished for it. When asked if that concerned him, he said, "Of course."

The pub management didn't want cameras inside, but say they've taken over recently and have fixed things up.

One of those restaurants that was shut down was a Vancouver legend -- The Only Seafood Restaurant on Hastings Street.

Once a bustling destination for seafood since it opened the 1920s, The Only is now filled with rat feces and dead insects.

"That one had a history to it, an icon," said Vancouver Coastal Health's Nick Losito. "When I heard about it, I thought, it can't be."

Losito's health department closed The Only last year -- not just because inspectors said the food was a public health hazard, but because inspectors discovered it was a crack den as well.

"We had a sense that some of the food could have been contaminated by the drug storage that was happening," he said. "Even the best places can make terrible mistakes."

Another repeat offender is Miki's Restaurant at Surrey's Guildford Mall. It was one of the worst offenders in the Lower Mainland, given a high hazard rating 10 times in the last four years.

When CTV News visited, inspectors had been there hours earlier and shut the facility down. The manager did tell us he wanted to improve, but he was going to take a few days to clean up.

Inspectors are also on the lookout for pests. Number One Beef Noodle on Willingdon Avenue was cited six times in the past there years for pests, the most of any restaurant in the Fraser region.

We did see that the restaurant had set traps out back for any unwanted creatures, and the restaurant said it addressed problems right away.

"It's our responsibility to make sure safe food is provided to the public," said Fraser Health Authority's Tim Shum. "Our role has been to educate them."

Au Wing Kee in Burnaby has been in business for 10 years. It's been repeatedly cited for staff not washing hands and not storing food properly.

The owner says the restaurant has made needed changes to comply with regulations. That's the common refrain from restaurants that have been repeatedly warned.

It's their livelihood and they don't want to end up a relic like The Only.

作者: siumaibb 時間: 2010-3-9 10:16

That's why Chinese restaurants are relatively cheaper, coz they spent less resources on hygiene. Once again, you got what you paid for.

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-3-9 10:29

本帖最後由 somewhereintime 於 2010-3-9 10:31 編輯

回復 3# siumaibb

How many Chinese owned restaurants have clean washrooms?
10, 20 out of 100 or less.
I asked the restaurant owners why can't they at least keep the
washrooms clean, the answer is:
We do not have the resources and labour to do it,
but why? they pay the dishwashers/janitors very low salary

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2010-3-9 10:43

wah.... Summary of names in that article:
The Only Seafood restaurant on Hastings - closed
XL Pizza in the Balmoral Hotel
Miki's Restaurant at Surrey's Guildford Mall
Number One Beef Noodle on Willingdon Avenue
Au Wing Kee in Burnaby

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-3-9 10:48

Any your favourite restaurants on the list?

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-3-9 10:56

it's a shame

i always think indians are the most dirty so sometimes i refuse to go

but now it turns out chinese are

for washrooms, I think Chinese ppl doesn't help maintaining washroom clean which they should

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-3-9 10:57

Au Wing Kee has a "toilet" smell after it opened the 1st week, that's terrible

i never go after i smell it the 1st time

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-3-9 10:59

本帖最後由 myversa 於 2010-3-9 11:01 編輯

Here is the newest list of closure.

http://www.vch.ca/media/Foodclosures_March%208,2010.pdf

Here is the list of restaurant inspected:

http://www.foodinspectionweb.vcha.ca/Facility?report-type=ffffffff-ffff-ffff-ffff-fffffffffff1&area=&sort-by=LastInspectedDateα=&search-term=&submit-search=Search

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-3-9 10:59

其中屢勸不改而被CTV列為最髒餐廳之一的一家港式小館，位在本拿比京士威道，頗獲消費者歡迎，在餐飲網以五星為最高的評比中，獲3.5星整體評分，顧客對其食物水準評分尤高。
myversa 發表於 2010-3-9 08:33

i want to ask you guys... if the food is great but has toilet smell in the whole restaurant, will u still go?

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-3-9 11:07

本帖最後由 somewhereintime 於 2010-3-9 11:10 編輯

回復 10# samsung

Mostly likely no,
BTW, most of the Cha Chan Tang restaurants are really dirty.
The Curry Kxxg Burnaby is really bad too, Last time I met some clients
there, I washed my hands after placing order,  they put 2 bags of
rice on the floor in Men's Room, and 4 jugs of Bleach on top of
the rice.  No hand soap, paper towels, urine and tissues  on the floor it gross me out . We  left before the food arrived and never return.
They  probably never figure out why we left without notice

作者: Ultraman 時間: 2010-3-9 11:29

i want to ask you guys... if the food is great but has toilet smell in the whole restaurant, will ...
samsung 發表於 2010-3-9 10:59

Of course, NO!
It's simple, where do all their staffs go for washroom too? You expect they can make clean food for you?

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-3-9 11:42

Of course, NO!
It's simple, where do all their staffs go for washroom too? You expect they can make ...
Ultraman 發表於 2010-3-9 11:29

someone argued... she said "it's just the smell", not hygiene

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-3-9 11:56

someone argued... she said "it's just the smell", not hygiene
samsung 發表於 2010-3-9 11:42

But what causes the smell?
it is the urine on the floor/wall!!!

But sometime you go near public washroom, i.e. High school,
you smell weeds !!

作者: Ultraman 時間: 2010-3-9 12:07

someone argued... she said "it's just the smell", not hygiene
samsung 發表於 2010-3-9 11:42

How if I say: "Oh it's only the smell of the food isn't pleasing, but it doesn't mean it's rotten!"

作者: simplistic 時間: 2010-3-9 12:08

the utensils @ Au Wing Kee always had a bleach smell to it...always had to dunk into the tea and rinse them myself

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-3-9 12:25

How if I say: "Oh it's only the smell of the food isn't pleasing, but it doesn't mean it's rotten!" ...
Ultraman 發表於 2010-3-9 12:07

the smell has made me throw up already, how can i eat anything? i duno how others do it

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-3-9 12:26

I don't understand why they don't hire more people to do cleaning and just raise the price. Chinese food should be higher priced anyway.

作者: news 時間: 2010-3-9 13:15

回復 18# peter236

u should ask your chinese friends

作者: news 時間: 2010-3-9 13:16

its just too bad tht most of the operators use the standard in china and hk in restaurants here..but seriously a lot of restaurants we eat in hk are way dirtier than the ones here...but when u eat out..u sort of hv to expect its not fully clean unlesse u r payingb ig bucks for your meal

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-3-9 13:21

I don't understand why they don't hire more people to do cleaning and just raise the price. Chinese ...
peter236 發表於 2010-3-9 12:26

Chinese food should be higher priced?

Just curious, how much do you think a bowl of wanton noodle soup should sell?

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-3-9 22:25

回復 21# myversa

Mak Un Kee's Wonton is quite expensive, $ 6 for a tiny bowl,
yet it is not clean

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-3-9 22:34

Once again, you got what you paid for.
siumaibb 發表於 2010/3/9 10:16

That's right.

俾10蚊又要求多多
怕衛生有問題就唔好食

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-3-9 22:41

Chinese food should be higher priced?

Just curious, how much do you think a bowl of wanton noodle ...
myversa 發表於 2010-3-9 13:21

How much do you think a bowl of Japanese la mian should sell?

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-3-9 22:42

回復 myversa

Mak Un Kee's Wonton is quite expensive, $ 6 for a tiny bowl,
yet it is not clean ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-3-9 22:25

How do you know?

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-3-9 22:51

i want to ask you guys... if the food is great but has toilet smell in the whole restaurant, will ...
samsung 發表於 2010-3-10 02:59

可唔可以外賣?...

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-3-9 23:35

回復 25# peter236

Check the Routine Health Inspection Report on the Vancouver Coastal
Health Authority website, it is in black & white

作者: Ultraman 時間: 2010-3-9 23:47

Don't put up such nonsense among countries. I don't see why a French roll should charge $20 while a Chinese dish of abalone should charge $1. Food price is definitely not based on it's nationality but quality. Same as, why should Chinese food should be more high priced? Because you support China stuff, or because of its actual value?

作者: maclover 時間: 2010-3-10 01:23

回復 siumaibb

How many Chinese owned restaurants have clean washrooms?
10, 20 out of 100 or less. ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-3-9 10:29

totally! i hated that most of the chinese restaurants got dirty washroom, even those with nice decoration outside, just dirty in washroom >< why?!?!?!? any chinese restaurant owner want to comment?

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-3-10 07:30

How much do you think a bowl of Japanese la mian should sell?
peter236 發表於 2010-3-9 22:41

No idea. You are the one saying "Chinese food should be higher priced anyway."

so why do not you answer the question how much should a bowl a wanton noodle soup be in a typical Chinese restaurant?

I agree with ultraman, the price should be based on quality of the food not nationality.

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-3-10 07:35

totally! i hated that most of the chinese restaurants got dirty washroom, even those with nic ...
maclover 發表於 2010-3-10 01:23

(Peter, this got nothing to do with anti-Mainland China or not but just a fact I observed.)

I do not know typical Chinese restaurant but I owned a food court restaurant before and for the public washroom got dirty so fast that sometimes the janitor is not fast enough to clean it. I got to admit, few years ago, when I went to Public Market, the washroom was not as dirty. I even saw some people from China (why I know? Because his tone sounds like he was from mainland China.) did some dirty thing inside a washroom.

作者: nabeyaki 時間: 2010-3-10 08:31

Food is important but restaurant environment (washroom ' s smell) is also important to everyone

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-3-10 08:54

Not only Chinese restaurant, fast food restaurants are the same too:

大溫速食店衛生比一比

http://van.worldjournal.com/view ... tance=bc_bull_left1

一項最新調查發現，在大溫地區營運的大型連鎖速食店，在衛生表現方面可能有明顯差異。

加拿大電視台（CTV）這項調查，檢視菲沙衛生局（FHA）對其涵蓋大溫東部以至整個菲沙河谷的轄區，在過去三年內對餐廳衛生臨檢所發的違規檢舉；該等「關鍵檢舉」表示，若問題不及時解決，可能爆發經由食物傳染的疫情。

結果顯示，區內最大市占率的麥當勞（McDonald's）餐廳，每100次臨檢中有66次被發現違規，為各連鎖店之最；而同樣來自美國的另一大型國際連鎖速食店「漢堡王」（Burger King），則每100次臨檢中只違規13次，為各連鎖店中最低。區內所有餐廳的違規比率為每100次臨檢66次，也就是說麥當勞的違規率與整體的平均相若。

其他違規比率較高的速食連鎖店，計有「A&W漢堡」的65%、以及「冰雪皇后」（Dairy Queen）冰淇淋暨快餐店的56%等（詳見附表）。

調查並發現，區內逾8成的速食連鎖店在過去三年起碼接過一次違規檢舉。但菲沙衛生局健康保護主任沈堤姆（Tim Shum）強調，大部分餐廳在接到違規檢舉後都隨即對症下藥改善問題，因此大都是很好的餐廳，超過95%的餐廳獲低衛生風險評級。

最常見的問題，包括食物未冷藏、員工未適當洗手、設備未充分清潔等。

食物未有適當衛生處理，譬如未適當冷藏，或使用過了最佳食用期的食品，也可能影響食物的品質以至味道。譬於位於吉利華市勒克庫克道（Luckakuck Way）8800號路段的一家速食店，就被發現使用過期的牛奶，奶品有欠新鮮，滋味可能已受損。

菲沙地區速食店衛生違規比率

麥當勞（McDonald's）66%

A&W漢堡65%

冰雪皇后（Dairy Queen）56%

塔可時刻（Taco Time）54%

肯德基炸雞（KFC）54%

紐約薯條（New York Fries）51%

溫蒂（Wendy's）44%

查氏炸雞（Church's）36%

漢堡王（Burger King）13%

所有餐廳平均66%

作者: news 時間: 2010-3-10 09:50

塔可時刻（Taco Time）54%

lol wht a translation

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-3-10 10:08

本帖最後由 somewhereintime 於 2010-3-10 10:10 編輯

回復 31# myversa

Like allowing the toddlers to pee in the hand-basins?
My wife tells me she witness that happen frequently in
Chinese shopping malls.
And one thing I feel ashame:
there are always notes posted on the washroom wall:
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM CROUGING ON THE TOILET SEAT
who would have done that? not Japs, East Indians or Africans

作者: low_B 時間: 2010-3-10 11:42

I think they(chinese) need to educate....

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