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作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-5-16 23:15 標題: 曾蔭權指港人買樓心態奇特

行政長官曾蔭權指出，香港市民買樓心態奇特，樓價高時爭買樓，樓價跌時成交量又放緩，令政府難做。

曾蔭權在出席電台節目時提及樓市問題，他認為，現時香港人的買樓習慣跟以往不同，他說自己結婚後，要再工作一段時間才能置業，但現時不少人一畢業就說要買樓。

他又說，樓價高時，就有聲音指樓價高，當樓價下跌，成交量又減少，他認為市民的買樓心態很奇特，令政府難做。但他強調，政府會致力保持樓市平穩。

曾蔭權指出，目前本港的房屋供應大約有240萬個，而家庭數目則有230萬個，基本上是供求平衡，但不少家庭希望改善居所環境，以及要求政府協助置業，因此政府希望再諮詢市民意見。

對於行政會議召集人梁振英撰文表達對樓價的看法，曾蔭權認為，梁振英作為行會一分子，所有討論都應該在行會內進行。

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丫～～～～～佢係咪食左屎黎？？？？
咁冇政治智慧既說話都講得出？？？
又將自住者買唔到樓既責任推番俾市民？？
我吊佢老母～～！！！！

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-16 23:43

佢咁多句, 我最認同呢一樣:

"曾蔭權在出席電台節目時提及樓市問題，他認為，現時香港人的買樓習慣跟以往不同，他說自己結婚後，要再工作一段時間才能置業，但現時不少人一畢業就說要買樓。"

而家d 蛋散, 搵果一萬幾千就話學人去置業... 大佬, 冇能力就唔好充大頭鬼啦, 真係人有你有咩. 比d 心機, 搵多d 錢, 到時先買樓都未遲.

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-5-16 23:57

MJJ，係好多人睇唔到自己份糧做幾多年會有買到樓既機會先出聲，
佢地唔係話我地現左要買樓，
而係佢地見唔到未來有買樓既機會。
唔好同隻曾狗一樣曲解!！

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-17 00:04

MJJ，係好多人睇唔到自己份糧做幾多年會有買到樓既機會先出聲，
佢地唔係話我地現左要買樓，
而係佢地見唔 ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2010-5-17 15:57

我都做左幾年野先買樓啦~ 我相信自己份人工唔會比絕大部分既80後低的...
比d 心機做野, 總有機會上位既. 上到位, 就可以搵多d 錢, 就會有能力買樓供樓啦~
後生仔要比d 心機, 先至可以發圍. 唔好以為自己係大學生就大哂, 讀屎片都可以大學畢業啦! (e.g. MJJ )

作者: ricrick 時間: 2010-5-17 00:34

樓價高時爭買樓，樓價跌時成交量又放緩

因為全部都係炒家

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-5-17 00:57

MJJ，係好多人睇唔到自己份糧做幾多年會有買到樓既機會先出聲，
佢地唔係話我地現左要買樓，
而係佢地見唔 ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2010-5-16 23:57

When campbell soup charges you HST when you buy a house then you will know how much you need to pay.

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-5-17 01:01

he called it 心態奇特? he's an idiot

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-17 01:09

When campbell soup charges you HST when you buy a house then you will know how much you need to pa ...
peter236 發表於 2010-5-17 16:57

我彩我呢邊唔興飲金寶湯...

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-5-17 01:16

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-5-17 01:18 編輯

我彩我呢邊唔興飲金寶湯...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-5-17 01:09

That's HST when you buy a house or apartment. That is why Hong Kong is so much better in this regard. You paid income taxes already, and then you pay sales taxes when you buy an apartment, computer or eat in a restaurant.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-17 01:19

That's HST when you buy a house or apartment. That is why Hong Kong is so much better in this regar ...
peter236 發表於 2010-5-17 17:16

12% 咁犀利呀? 唔怪得你果邊d 福利咁好啦...

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-5-17 06:21

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作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-5-17 12:31

Put it this way, what he said, it is ture .. partial ..

" 買樓心態奇特 " yes, many high end house/flat, sold to whoever ..  doesn't need to the unit .. ( investors/BIG 6 rich guys .. )

BUT ..  how can he blames the citizen? and how can he compare them to himself?

It is not a bad thing to buy a HOME earlier ..  earlier you buy, earlier you can pay off .. ( 30 or 40 yr to pay off a home now!! )

Moi: for sure you dont want to 吊佢老母 la..  lol

I still think, good thing for HK, is you have a choice, everytime I go HK, I did look around for house price etc .. yes, higher end house/flat, price goes higher and higher .. so for someone who wants to live in a upper class area, is expensive ..  but if looking at some older units, (20 yr plus) and some remote area, still, $2-3M can buy one, of course, won't be BIG ...

Yes, many units, for $20K/ft, and over 3000 ft ..  but nothing wrong for some units for $3-5k/ft, 400-500 ft wor .. security isn't bad for highrise anyway .. unlike here, you do not want to live in bad area, as single house, you want good neighbor, for security, and school etc ...

Still, average entry level house price is $1/2 m cad here, (~ 4M HKD) and 600K plus in Vancouver ... (close to 5M)

Of course, we are talking bigger house, and more land here still.

作者: starbug 時間: 2010-5-17 13:57

本帖最後由 starbug 於 2010-5-17 14:03 編輯

恕小弟愚昧, 其實曾蔭權講錯乜?
"但現時不少人一畢業就說要買樓", 咁又係喎, 個個豬西火雞都要講"自我", "小天地", 付出唔到就唔好鬧人, 爆住房先囉, 公園長撜頂住先囉.
佢祇不過講真話, 又祇不過一班七頭唔啱聽咁解啫.

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-17 14:18

恕小弟愚昧, 其實曾蔭權講錯乜?
"但現時不少人一畢業就說要買樓", 咁又係喎, 個個豬西火雞都要講"自我", " ...
starbug 發表於 2010-5-17 13:57

唔係內容
係佢嘅嘴臉

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-17 14:26

我買樓嗰陣
我知我每年搵嘅係幾多
供樓係我人工幾多成
我有冇升級加人工嘅機會
全部計算哂先去買樓

今日
你聽日保唔保得住份工都成疑問
重徨論有冇人工加？
呢個先至係上唔倒車嘅原因

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-5-17 14:36

我買樓嗰陣
我知我每年搵嘅係幾多
供樓係我人工幾多成
我有冇升級加人工嘅機會
全部計算哂先去買樓

今 ...
sheep 發表於 2010-5-17 14:26

the unexpected would be 負資產!

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2010-5-17 14:48

本帖最後由 MoiRhapsody 於 2010-5-17 14:50 編輯

第二次講:
佢地既訴求唔係「即刻買樓」，
而係以目前樓市，物價升幅，同薪金調整唔成正比，
啱啱出黎做野既話係：「計劃買樓」，唔係「即刻買樓」。
即係話佢地現在見唔到佢自己將來會買到樓。
唔好學特衰政府曲解人地既意思。

作者: starbug 時間: 2010-5-17 15:18

"見唔到佢自己將來會買到樓" 咁就係幾灰. 不過咁嘅時勢, 上到車都唔知坐得幾耐,要跳車咪仲大鑊.

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-5-17 15:19

恕小弟愚昧, 其實曾蔭權講錯乜?
"但現時不少人一畢業就說要買樓", 咁又係喎, 個個豬西火雞都要講"自我", " ...
starbug 發表於 2010-5-17 13:57

"奇特" showed that he is an idiot that's all... he should study economic and won't find it 奇特 anymore.. and as a 特首, the language he used is really 奇特 indeed

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-5-17 15:21

and how 奇特 it is? govt needs to think of a way to help balance 各方面﹐only know to blame ppl as 奇特 won't help and only showed his 無能

作者: Prelude 時間: 2010-5-17 19:26

I am sure everyone here, who curse him and call him 無能, and want to fxxk his mother, can do a better job than him, right?
Or are you trying to release anger for your non-related issue here?

To be honest, he is doing much better job than our Campbell.

Nowadays, people just love to fiercely complain to make them feel more superior, in general. I am getting my flamesuit on now.

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-5-17 19:36

People like to complain to hide the fact that they suck.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-17 20:27

今日
你聽日保唔保得住份工都成疑問
重徨論有冇人工加？
呢個先至係上唔倒車嘅原因
sheep 發表於 2010-5-18 06:26

見人見智啦...
我同我d 朋友, 好多都係睇下老闆留唔留得住我instead of 唔保得住份工.
咁我係70後, 就算我細係80後, 佢既情況都一樣啦~

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-17 20:32

第二次講:
佢地既訴求唔係「即刻買樓」，
而係以目前樓市，物價升幅，同薪金調整唔成正比，
啱啱出黎做野既 ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2010-5-18 06:48

Moi 兄, 屯門, 元朗同天水圍既樓真係affordable 架... 只要你唔係一定要新樓, 果度d 樓一百萬鬆d 就有交易. 儲到首期就好易上車.

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-17 20:57

見人見智啦...
我同我d 朋友, 好多都係睇下老闆留唔留得住我instead of 唔保得住份工.
咁我係70後, 就算我 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-5-17 20:27

咁
你有風就好駛盡悝喇

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-5-17 21:04

and how 奇特 it is? govt needs to think of a way to help balance 各方面﹐only know to blame ppl as ...
samsung 發表於 2010-5-17 15:21

It is funny that only HK people blame the government, whether the housing price is too high(like now) or too low( like during the Asian financial crisis).
Do the Americans blame their government now when over 20% of mortgages in the US are negative equity?

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-5-17 21:06

見人見智啦...
我同我d 朋友, 好多都係睇下老闆留唔留得住我instead of 唔保得住份工.
咁我係70後, 就算我 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-5-17 20:27

yeah, Hong Kong/China job market is stronger than in Canada.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-17 21:15

咁
你有風就好駛盡悝喇
sheep 發表於 2010-5-18 12:57

咁我份人都好忠心既, 而且呢份工比到一樣我o係出面搵唔到既野, 我都暫時唔會走住, 打工仔同老闆都係互相利用架jel.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-17 21:18

yeah, Hong Kong/China job market is stronger than in Canada.
peter236 發表於 2010-5-18 13:06

我覺得睇下乜野階層啦. 好似小弟果d 朋友所謂"精英"份子, 當然o係香港會比較易發圍. 但係一d 低下階層既工人黎講, 香港既就業保障就真係欠奉喇. 有d 工人做得好辛苦, 出賣努力, 一日做足12個鐘, 都係搵得雞碎咁多, 勉強叫做養得起頭家乍.

呢d 就係力兄開口埋口講既堅尼系數law.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-17 21:22

It is funny that only HK people blame the government, whether the housing price is too high(like now) or too low( like during the Asian financial crisis).
Do the Americans blame their government now when over 20% of mortgages in the US are negative equity?
peter236 發表於 2010-5-18 13:04

樓市高同低都有人complain, 因為complain 班友仔唔同law.
樓市低, o係高位置左業既人就一定蝕左錢, 話唔定變成負資產, 就話政府保衛樓價不力.
樓市高, 想儲錢買樓有個安落窩既人就覺得好難賣樓, 好似成世幫地產商打工.
唯一唔會投訴既, 就係一班本身有樓而又供得七七八八既人, 佢地又有多餘錢可以入市, 咁佢地真係進可攻, 退可守, 所以唔駛愁.

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-5-17 21:40

而加中国大陆有种风气系，无楼，边个嫁你啊？

所以一毕业买楼系被逼的。尽管多数系父母给的首期

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-5-17 21:44

我老豆话，距地果辈人奋斗左几十年先买到楼，你地E代人刚刚毕业还未奋斗过就话要买楼

不过我也决定毕业后也许很快会在加拿大买楼了，然后用来炒哈哈~

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-17 21:49

我老豆话，距地果辈人奋斗左几十年先买到楼，你地E代人刚刚毕业还未奋斗过就话要买楼

不过我也决定毕业后 ...
yayaya 發表於 2010-5-18 13:44

奉勸一句, 小心太大火會炒"農".

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-17 21:50

而加中国大陆有种风气系，无楼，边个嫁你啊？

所以一毕业买楼系被逼的。尽管多数系父母给的首期 ...
yayaya 發表於 2010-5-18 13:40

而家男女平等, 可唔可以"无楼，边个娶你啊？"?

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-5-17 21:57

回復 34# mcjohnjohn

哈哈所以我要买楼啊

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-5-17 22:00

回復 34# mcjohnjohn

其实我害怕两个人一起供楼或者买楼，是因为我对婚姻没有信心，我怕到时候离婚要分身家，我有些朋友因为家里没有钱，只有一所房子，所以她爸爸有婚外情的时候她父母依然没法离婚，最后一间几十平米的屋中间加了一面墙，这样分了。。。

我情愿我和我以后的老公各自有自己的房子，也不用担心被什么绑住

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-17 22:00

回復 mcjohnjohn

哈哈所以我要买楼啊
yayaya 發表於 2010-5-18 13:57

sshhhhhhhh, 你唔係唔知道呢處好多軟飯王丫麻...

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-5-17 22:02

回復 33# mcjohnjohn

想炒楼主要是我比较喜欢买东西，但是又经常容易贪新忘旧，所以又喜欢卖东西，一来一去我就发现了自己是一个喜欢倒腾东西的人，炒楼是必然

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-17 22:04

其实我害怕两个人一起供楼或者买楼，是因为我对婚姻没有信心，我怕到时候离婚要分身家，我有些朋友因为家里没有钱，只有一所房子，所以她爸爸有婚外情的时候她父母依然没法离婚，最后一间几十平米的屋中间加了一面墙，这样分了。。。

我情愿我和我以后的老公各自有自己的房子，也不用担心被什么绑住
yayaya 發表於 2010-5-18 14:00

yayaya, 比d 信心! 你要有信心, 婚姻先有機會會係美滿架~ 連自己都冇信心既話, 又點可以做好一件事呢? 所以, 成日都有人話: "乜都可以輸, 信心就唔可以輸!"

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-17 22:06

回復 mcjohnjohn

想炒楼主要是我比较喜欢买东西，但是又经常容易贪新忘旧，所以又喜欢卖东西，一来一去 ...
yayaya 發表於 2010-5-18 14:02

喜歡買東西... 遲d 會唔會買樓好似買棵菜架?!?!

唔知yayaya 會唔會成為新一代既大溫地產大亨呢?

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-5-17 22:07

yayaya, 比d 信心! 你要有信心, 婚姻先有機會會係美滿架~ 連自己都冇信心既話, 又點可以做好一件事呢? 所 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-5-17 22:04

是我对自己无信心o者，很怕被人绑住，觉得一个人的时候最自由，婚姻有点累赘，物质联系越多的婚姻就越累赘

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-5-17 22:10

喜歡買東西... 遲d 會唔會買樓好似買棵菜架?!?!
唔知yayaya 會唔會成為新一代既大溫地產大亨呢? ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-5-17 22:06

你不知道我的宠物生意就是这样做起来的，因为我买了一只狗，养了一两周发觉不喜欢，就卖了，但是我这个人生性很有动物缘，过了一阵我又想买一只狗，养了一段时间后觉得照顾不了又卖了。。

现在我的能力范围只能买卖宠物不能买卖汽车或者楼房，到我毕业后，我有能力了，可能就会转移倒腾其它东西了

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-5-17 22:16

而且我觉得，如果毕业后不买楼，很多人会变成月光族，买楼可以让人有信仰同动力啊~
都是逼出来的，要是不供楼，过了10年后我都不知道能不能买得起，说不定像前面第一页某人说的，而加稳多d钱第日先买楼，我觉得我没有那么强的存钱能力，所以就供房子好了

作者: playingtoy 時間: 2010-5-17 22:34

动物缘
yayaya 發表於 2010-5-17 22:10

動物園

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-5-17 22:36

买楼可以让人有信仰 ??

作者: ricrick 時間: 2010-5-17 22:45

e+樓價甘高，我一轉手就十幾個，洗鬼做

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-5-17 22:53

不过我那个地产大王儿子朋友说这么多人炒楼，中国的（香港的）楼市肯定会跌，因为泡沫太多了，要是像美国一样来一场金融海啸肯定会死很多人

作者: playingtoy 時間: 2010-5-17 22:59

买楼可以让人有信仰 ??
Catpiano 發表於 2010-5-17 22:36

i cant believe u r typing a full sentence in chinese

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-5-17 23:02

sorry 我打错字，有信念不是有信仰。。

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-5-17 23:23

我都做左幾年野先買樓啦~ 我相信自己份人工唔會比絕大部分既80後低的...
比d 心機做野, 總有機會上位既. ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-5-17 00:04

be fair, the housing price increased 30-50% in a year, how many people get salaries increased by that much. that is why people want to get in the market asap.
you may lucky that you don't need to pay back student loan or support family member, otherwise it is hard to save for downpayment. I still remember you said your bro is a professional with his own corp. so you can't compare him to the general 80's la.

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-5-17 23:29

"""目前本港的房屋供應大約有240萬個，而家庭數目則有230萬個，基本上是供求平衡，"""
he probably forgot the buyers from mainland. and most new apartments are "luxury" apartments, which are only target to the rich people. so how many units are actually available to the average families.
if he cannot figure out why people keep complain about the price, he should go back to take econ 101 la.

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-5-17 23:33

回復 4# mcjohnjohn

你人工几高可以做几年野就买楼？

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-17 23:58

you may lucky that you don't need to pay back student loan or support family member, otherwise it is hard to save for downpayment. I still remember you said your bro is a professional with his own corp. so you can't compare him to the general 80's la.
tofu 發表於 2010-5-18 15:23

又係時候要澄清一下喇:
1. 當年讀書, 我一毫子都冇用過屋企, 只係靠grant loan 同我補習既兼職生活. 畢業之後要還loan, 我當年幾乎full loan, 差唔多還10萬蚊(當然係港紙)左右啦, 都還左成5年架~
2. 我出黎做野之後, 每個月都有比家用架, 我覺得都唔算少. 就算而家結左婚都有比架~
3. 咁我細佬又真係專業人仕黎既, 不過佢真係80後woh, general 唔general 就好見人見智, 我都唔知general 既80 後係點樣.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-18 00:01

回復 mcjohnjohn

你人工几高可以做几年野就买楼？
yayaya 發表於 2010-5-18 15:33

呢層唔係好方便透露...
其實我而家住緊果層樓好平架乍, 當然買都唔駛2M(港幣), 月供佔家庭總收入一成左右, 所以供得好舒服.
算啦, 又比人話我唔係典型香港人架喇...

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-18 00:04

be fair, the housing price increased 30-50% in a year, how many people get salaries increased by that much. that is why people want to get in the market asap.
tofu 發表於 2010-5-18 15:23

升30-50% 主要係d 所謂豪宅所帶動, 呢d 咁既泡沫遲早都爆, 我都等緊佢爆.
我而家都勸身邊既朋友唔好買樓(唔係自住果隻), 叫佢地忍一忍手, 因為個市真係唔係咁明朗.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-18 00:06

"""目前本港的房屋供應大約有240萬個，而家庭數目則有230萬個，基本上是供求平衡，"""
he probably forgot ...
tofu 發表於 2010-5-18 15:29

聽講話好多大陸豪客買左樓, 係唔會租出去, 只係等好價炒賣, 丟空間屋比人睇樓的...

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-5-18 00:08

回復 55# mcjohnjohn

咁既泡沫遲早都爆, that is what some people in vancouver believe as well, but we have been waiting for so long, it still not 爆 yet.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-18 00:14

回復 mcjohnjohn

咁既泡沫遲早都爆, that is what some people in vancouver believe as well, but we h ...
tofu 發表於 2010-5-18 16:08

總會有野令泡沫爆一爆既.
好似當年雷曼, 都搞到個市跌左一跌, 絕對係入貨既時機啦! 只不過d 人怕繼續跌, 想等佢跌多d 先買, 等下等下就miss 左個opportunity law.

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-5-18 00:26

回復 53# mcjohnjohn

what i mean is they are supporting their family, not only pay 家用( you live at home, you pay 家用 is pretty normal).  read few posts at hk forum, people need to pay 1/3 to 1/2 salary to family, which is a lot la.
if in general, everyone is a professional, we don't need to designated a group of people as "professional" la.
you family income should be around $80000/month.  which is quite good wor.

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-5-18 00:30

聽講話好多大陸豪客買左樓, 係唔會租出去, 只係等好價炒賣, 丟空間屋比人睇樓的... ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-5-18 00:06

what i know is slightly different. they just want to transfer their money out of china, in case somethings happen, they still have some assets for their family.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-5-18 01:22

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-5-18 01:44 編輯

"""目前本港的房屋供應大約有240萬個，而家庭數目則有230萬個，基本上是供求平衡，"""
he probably forgot ...
tofu 發表於 2010-5-17 23:29

Most new apartments are not luxury apartments, in Hong Kong, or in most other markets.
I can't believe you think most new apartments in HK are luxury. This is just hilarious.
I just find your way of argument, now and before, intentionally very vague and ambiguous. Twisted logic, and blatant lies are very typical from you.

One measure of a luxury apartment in HK is that the property needs to be at least 1000sq ft and costs $10,000 per sq ft. Most apartments in HK are smaller and lower priced than that.

If you don't have the knowledge on HK real estate, please learn more before bashing.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-18 01:25

本帖最後由 mcjohnjohn 於 2010-5-18 17:29 編輯

what i mean is they are supporting their family, not only pay 家用( you live at home, you pay 家用 is pretty normal). read few posts at hk forum, people need to pay 1/3 to 1/2 salary to family, which is a lot la.
if in general, everyone is a professional, we don't need to designated a group of people as "professional" la.
tofu 發表於 2010-5-18 16:26

又要澄清一下...
我一出黎做野, 我比家用係over 1/2人工. 隨著人工增加, 我都加左少少家用, 不過比列上就越黎越細.
都係果句, 我屋企一d 都唔有錢, 我細個住廉租屋, 絕對係貧窮線之下. 但我知道只要我肯努力, 我一定可以脫貧. 正如所料我做到了, 而我最開心就係我可以感染埋我細佬, 諗起都老懷安慰.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-18 01:27

what i know is slightly different. they just want to transfer their money out of china, in case so ...
tofu 發表於 2010-5-18 16:30

我地講既野唔同jel.
我係話層樓佢地喜歡丟空, 而你話佢地運走d 錢"洗乾淨"左佢, 我覺得兩個情況都有出現.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-18 01:29

Most new apartments are not luxury apartments, in Hong Kong, or in most other markets.
I can't believe you think most new apartments in HK are luxury. This is just hilarious.
peter236 發表於 2010-5-18 17:22

Peter, 而家賣既樓當然唔係豪宅, 不過係"扮豪宅"!!!!
大圍d 樓, 都可以標價10000蚊一呎, 仲要話自己係香港中心點... 大佬, 大圍o係新界架...

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-5-18 01:39

Peter, 而家賣既樓當然唔係豪宅, 不過係"扮豪宅"!!!!
大圍d 樓, 都可以標價10000蚊一呎, 仲要話自己係香港 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-5-18 01:29

Even if you included 扮豪宅, still most are not luxury apartments.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-5-18 01:41

我地講既野唔同jel.
我係話層樓佢地喜歡丟空, 而你話佢地運走d 錢"洗乾淨"左佢, 我覺得兩個情況都有出現. ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-5-18 01:27

Even if some people want to "transfer their money", still most of them are just normal people. Some bashers are just jealous of Chinese people's success in making money.
Sure a small number of them are "wash money", but most made their money legitimately.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-18 07:54

Even if you included 扮豪宅, still most are not luxury apartments.
peter236 發表於 2010-5-18 17:39

果d 扮豪宅, 幾乎係豪宅價啦! 改個名好聽少少, 搵d 西人拍下廣告, 就扮哂貴野, 真係"啤"一聲.
好似好耐都冇一d 平平地又實際d 既樓盤推出了... 可能香港人都係鍾意浮誇同豪華吧!

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-18 07:56

Sure a small number of them are "wash money", but most made their money legitimately.
peter236 發表於 2010-5-18 17:41

我仲以為你會話所有中國人搵既錢都係有血有淚...

不過都arm 架, 有血, 就係豆腐渣工程下死者既血; 有淚, 就係死者家屬既眼淚.

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-5-18 08:05

升30-50% 主要係d 所謂豪宅所帶動, 呢d 咁既泡沫遲早都爆, 我都等緊佢爆.
我而家都勸身邊既朋友唔好買樓( ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-5-18 00:04

I 2nd that

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-5-18 08:08

總會有野令泡沫爆一爆既.
好似當年雷曼, 都搞到個市跌左一跌, 絕對係入貨既時機啦! 只不過d 人怕繼續跌, ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-5-18 00:14

no, when house price is low, ppl are not "waiting for 跌 more to buy", they just lost their confidence on house market, afraid that their investments will go into vain... but after these yrs., I hope HK ppl has learned something... that is, no matter how bad the situation or house market is (use 雷曼 as a reference), hk house market will never be collapsed, reason is not hk has insufficient house, reason is the big bosses will not let it down, simple as that.

so if you have family or friends in hk, tell them to buy when market is down again... if Greece economy really collapsed, it would largely affect hk stock market, maybe it's another chance to buy... everyone should watch out

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-18 08:15

你不知道我的宠物生意就是这样做起来的，因为我买了一只狗，养了一两周发觉不喜欢，就卖了，但是我这个 ...
yayaya 發表於 2010-5-17 22:10

試吓養羊
好過癮

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-5-18 08:16

回復 71# sheep

don't... sheep is ham sup

作者: ecwkwok 時間: 2010-5-18 08:17

其實我而家住緊果層樓好平架乍, 當然買都唔駛2M(港幣), 月供佔家庭總收入一成左右, 所以供得好舒服.

Less than HK$2M, 就算唔o係市區, 你個apartment應該around 500呎 (建築面積, 實際可能得400呎), 我都搵緊呢個size 既apartment...一個人or兩公婆住都ok既...

我知道只要我肯努力, 我一定可以脫貧

唔知點解, 雖然我知道唔係好o岩, 我都想講一聲, "你好天真, 好傻...", 我眼見身邊好多人, 努力一世, 到頭來脫唔到貧不特止, 有d老來仲比子女遺棄, 孤單終老..."努力" 只係可以令脫貧機會大d, 但唔係一定囉.

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-18 08:20

回復 sheep

don't... sheep is ham sup
samsung 發表於 2010-5-18 08:16

嘩
洗唔洗咁快呀
我都要買張飛機票去多倫多架
我都有付出架！！！！！！！

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-5-18 08:28

嘩
洗唔洗咁快呀
我都要買張飛機票去多倫多架
我都有付出架！！！！！！！ ...
sheep 發表於 2010-5-18 08:20

1 min after your post, not 快 at all

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-18 17:50

Less than HK$2M, 就算唔o係市區, 你個apartment應該around 500呎 (建築面積, 實際可能得400呎), 我都搵緊呢個size 既apartment...一個人or兩公婆住都ok既...

唔知點解, 雖然我知道唔係好o岩, 我都想講一聲, "你好天真, 好傻...", 我眼見身邊好多人, 努力一世, 到頭來脫唔到貧不特止, 有d老來仲比子女遺棄, 孤單終老..."努力" 只係可以令脫貧機會大d, 但唔係一定囉.
ecwkwok 發表於 2010-5-19 00:17

唔係市區樓, 但交通都okay 的, 其實真係好細, 實用500 都唔夠, bb 大d 就應該要搬了. 屋細有好處, 就係打捐會容易d, 因為冇請工人.

至於努力, 除左工作同學業努力, 好多地方都要努力, 例如要努力維繫家人之間既感情, 努力維持朋友之間既友誼, 各方面既努力都好緊要架.

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-5-18 20:12

回復 61# peter236

天匯, The 6,158 square foot apartment was sold to an unidentified buyer from mainland China.At a price tag of almost $9,200 per square foot, it may be Asia’s most expensive property!
yep, tell the 天匯 buyers, you guys don't own a luxury unit yet.
so as your standard, the most expensive apartment in Asia is not a luxury unit.
but the one in yuen long is a luxury home lor.
元朗YOHO MIDTOWN，提供8個頂層大戶，每戶意向售價逾2,000萬元，呎價逾1.25萬元，

"one measure", who set the standard?
even the one in yuen long and fan lan are package at luxury apartment.

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-5-18 20:17

回復 62# mcjohnjohn

a fresh grad after 97 earned ~$12000, if you paid half to your family and ~$3K to loan payment and you could still save money for the down payment and wedding + ..., you should show the 80+ how to do it la. unless you earn much more than average la

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-18 20:23

本帖最後由 mcjohnjohn 於 2010-5-19 12:24 編輯

回復 mcjohnjohn

a fresh grad after 97 earned ~$12000, if you paid half to your family and ~$3K to ...
tofu 發表於 2010-5-19 12:17

畢業之後, 每年都有加人工架...

而家仲搵12000蚊就真係陰公lor.

一畢業就當然唔係好儲到錢, 不過過左兩三年之後就okay 了... (我畢左業已經有1x年)

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-5-18 20:25

畢業之後, 每年都有加人工架...
而家仲搵12000蚊就真係陰公lor.
一畢業就當然唔係好儲到錢, 不過過 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-5-18 20:23

of course you must make more than that la, otherwise your mortgage payment is not only 10% of your household income la.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-18 20:27

元朗YOHO MIDTOWN，提供8個頂層大戶，每戶意向售價逾2,000萬元，呎價逾1.25萬元...
tofu 發表於 2010-5-19 12:12

小弟當日見到Yoho Midtown 個價, 即場窒左一窒.
大佬, 元朗呀, 要5-6千蚊一呎? 市區舊舊地都買到啦...

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-18 20:31

of course you must make more than that la, otherwise your mortgage payment is not only 10% of your ...
tofu 發表於 2010-5-19 12:25

不過, 不得不承認80後d 大學生冇70後既大學生咁好境.
就正如70後既大學生冇60後既大學生咁好境; 60後既大學生冇50後既大學生咁好境.

而家阿豬阿狗都讀到大學, 大學生一d 都唔馨香.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-5-18 20:38

Aiya .. most of those "SKY PRICE" are fake ... (cover price)

Kind of like shell stock .. just for making news ...

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-18 20:40

Aiya .. most of those "SKY PRICE" are fake ... (cover price)

Kind of like shell stock .. just for ...
Catpiano 發表於 2010-5-19 12:38

基本上, 果d 幾萬蚊既天價係完全唔關普羅大眾既事.
但大圍10k一呎, 元朗6k一呎, 都唔可以話唔值得關注.

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-18 21:03

基本上, 果d 幾萬蚊既天價係完全唔關普羅大眾既事.
但大圍10k一呎, 元朗6k一呎, 都唔可以話唔值得關注. ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-5-18 20:40

你明唔明咩叫水漲船高？

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-5-18 21:14

基本上, 果d 幾萬蚊既天價係完全唔關普羅大眾既事.
但大圍10k一呎, 元朗6k一呎, 都唔可以話唔值得關注. ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-5-18 20:40

Well .. put it this way, many "LUXURY" units, they are expensive with reason, such as high ceiling, floor, view. actual % etc .. (say in same location) how many apartment in HK, with 9 or 10 feet ceiling? or even with 18 ft open high ceiling?

But in general .. even $5k/ft, is still higher then almost everywhere else on earth ... (with ~ 70% real space)

Well.....

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-18 21:16

你明唔明咩叫水漲船高？
sheep 發表於 2010-5-19 13:03

大圍同元朗都可以係叫做同一條水.
但半山就應該係另一條水啦~

小弟無能, 暫時都食唔到半山條水, 而"平民"條水小弟都覺得定價太高, 根本都唔係平民住既.
其實會唔會有d 平d 既樓盤推出左, 因為薄利多銷而冇賣廣告所以我miss 左呢? 真係唔多覺.
希望d 地產商比d 誠意, 起d 實用d 既樓比d 平民去買. 平民唔需要乜野豪華會所, 亦唔需要有空中花園, 肆肆正正, 實用率高就得架喇~

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-18 21:19

Well .. put it this way, many "LUXURY" units, they are expensive with reason, such as high ceiling, floor, view. actual % etc .. (say in same location) how many apartment in HK, with 9 or 10 feet ceiling? or even with 18 ft open high ceiling?

But in general .. even $5k/ft, is still higher then almost everywhere else on earth ... (with ~ 70% real space)

Well.....
Catpiano 發表於 2010-5-19 13:14

對於我呢d 平民, 18呎樓底用黎托炮咩... o係屋企種樹響應環保? 定係可以自己間多一層去做閣樓?

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-18 21:25

本帖最後由 sheep 於 2010-5-18 21:26 編輯

回復 87# mcjohnjohn

嘩你呢到都直一萬
我響你隔離都起碼值八千啦

說話係唔係咁講？

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-18 21:29

回復 mcjohnjohn

嘩你呢到都直一萬
我響你隔離都起碼值八千啦

說話係唔係咁講？ ...
sheep 發表於 2010-5-19 13:25

如果你覺得半山同大圍o係隔離, 我冇野好講...

其實你想叉零廚我d 乜? 不妨直接d 啦.

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-18 21:44

本帖最後由 sheep 於 2010-5-18 21:47 編輯

你話呢？

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-5-18 21:46

如果你覺得半山同大圍o係隔離, 我冇野好講...
其實你想叉零廚我d 乜? 不妨直接d 啦. ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-5-18 21:29

元朗YOHO MIDTOWN，提供8個頂層大戶，每戶意向售價逾2,000萬元，呎價逾1.25萬元，

tofu 發表於 2010-5-18 20:12

你話呢？

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-5-18 21:54

你話呢？
sheep 發表於 2010-5-19 13:46

頂層大戶應該係果d 所謂特色單位, 包裝到靚一靚扮哂超級豪宅.
羊羊, 我都係唔明你叉零廚我d 乜? 你係唔係只係唔小心叉錯腳乍?...

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