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作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-7-3 22:37 標題: HST is here

HST is here
The Harmonized Sales Tax takes effect in BC. The Provincial Sales Tax (PST) joins the Goods and Services Tax (GST) for a rate of 12%. Drivers will also be paying 4.8 cents a litre more in added carbon tax.

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-7-3 22:42

do u feel the pinch?

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-7-3 22:45

G O R D O N

YOU WILL BE CONDEMNED TO HELL!

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-7-3 23:31

I'll go to Point Roberts to fill up gas from now on.

作者: godavid 時間: 2010-7-3 23:58

who wants to beat him up?

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-7-4 00:10

I'll go to Point Roberts to fill up gas from now on.
fibbi 發表於 2010/7/3 23:31

you guys have a lot of time

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-4 08:16

回復 4# fibbi

gas is exempt from this tax and the carbon tax is already silently added to us months ago. Didn't you see the price of future oil is around 75 dollars for quite some time and the gas price never drops. Those who line up on 30 June is stupid. Do you really believe gas company will start to add the carbon tax on 1st July?

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-7-4 10:13

I only fill up when I see the price is lower on that day. On Jun 30 it's actually 113.0 which is pretty low these days.
I did fill up in Point Roberts once a while even months ago.
20 minutes a trip is not too much of a commute.

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-4 10:20

回復 8# fibbi

twenty mins @ 90Km/hr = 30km which means about 3 liters of gas if your car is about 10Km/liter. If your car is so fuel efficient. let say only 2 liters for 30 Km. You have to save more than 2 dollars for a single trip. If you have to come back from Pt Roberts, another 30Km. You do the math

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-7-4 10:25

回復 9# sheep

Of course I did the math.
One way = 20KM, so total of 40KM.
So assume gas required is $4.
Gas down there is around $0.30 difference. (9x.9 vs 12x.9 here - both supreme). It's almost 30% difference. Let's say I fill up 50L, I can save at least $15, minus my $4 gas to get there, still save around $10 each tank.

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-7-4 11:40

本帖最後由 habitrailspace 於 2010-7-4 11:42 編輯

restaurants jacked up the price 2

cable tv
phone bills
terasen gas
bc hydro.....................................................................................................................

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-7-4 11:43

the headline was copied from news1130

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-7-4 12:54

回復 sheep

Of course I did the math.
One way = 20KM, so total of 40KM.
So assume gas required is ...
fibbi 發表於 2010/7/4 10:25

spend half an hour and add whatever many tons of carbon to the air to save $10
that's good math

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-7-4 21:31

It seems that Telus added the HST to the phone bill. I don't understand why since the bill was for June, and that was before the HST.

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-7-4 21:39

回復 14# peter236

probably your bill was sent in june, but part of your billing cycle is in july, so they charged you hst on the days that fall in july

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-7-4 21:44

but they did good promotion this time. as soon as the cashier explained to seniors why the price is higher, the seniors have no doubt. usually chinese seniors know every little about new tax

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-7-4 22:24

回復 13# 快樂牛郎

無辦法啦，呢邊難搵＄，慳得就慳。

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-7-4 22:34

回復 sheep

Of course I did the math.
One way = 20KM, so total of 40KM.
So assume gas required is ...
fibbi 發表於 2010-7-4 10:25

* faint *

what an opportunity cost.. how much do you make per hour... 10 is almost the minimum wage

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-7-4 22:38

本帖最後由 fibbi 於 2010-7-4 23:02 編輯

I'm taking lunch break to go there....and I don't need to fill up everyday...I guess once every 2 to 3 weeks. I don't mind the driving lor. I'd rather save that $10 for something else. I can also shop a bit grocery @ the supermarket too.

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-7-4 22:51

食多一餐

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-7-4 23:03

回復 20# yayaya

可以食到兩盒dryers雪糕

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-7-4 23:07

回復 21# fibbi

haha，价值观这么好的人现在几乎要绝种了

作者: mollinbaggio 時間: 2010-7-4 23:12

大家齊黎反尼個哥頓金寶政府,背信棄義違反承諾.Let's Recall!

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-7-4 23:36

I'll go to Point Roberts to fill up gas from now on.
fibbi 發表於 2010-7-3 23:31

So at the border when they ask you what is the purpose for going to the US, you will say you buy gas?

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-7-4 23:38

好似話10蚊8蚊好小意思，一個月save到＄20都差唔多夠我交cell phone個bill。我唔介意話我cheap，我慳都係慳自己嗟。慳埋買多件化妝品唔好？
HST一下子加7％好勢利嗟，人工又唔見加咁多？
唔好話dry clean，renovation呢啲唔係成日做無乜影響：cable，hydro嗰啲咪又係俾多咗？

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-7-4 23:41

回復 24# peter236

Never lie to custom. Just say that I go to fill up gas, and shop for grocery.

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-5 07:32

回復 20# yayaya

when compare to 0 income with your leisure time, it is already 10 times

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-7-5 09:32

好似話10蚊8蚊好小意思，一個月save到＄20都差唔多夠我交cell phone個bill。我唔介意話我cheap，我慳都係慳 ...
fibbi 發表於 2010-7-4 23:38

作者: B2L2 時間: 2010-7-5 09:42

So at the border when they ask you what is the purpose for going to the US, you will say you buy g ...
peter236 發表於 2010-7-4 23:36

I did that few years back when our gas price went crazy and the Point Robert line up was much shorter. I was so honest and told them I went down for gas only.

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-7-5 10:23

回復 27# sheep

Opportunity cost doesn't count like that though

作者: news 時間: 2010-7-5 12:33

gas is not exempted

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-7-5 16:26

回復 peter236

Never lie to custom. Just say that I go to fill up gas, and shop for grocery. ...
fibbi 發表於 2010-7-4 23:41

What did you say to the US customs?

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2010-7-5 16:31

回復 32# peter236
just tell them that you went down to fill up gas!
I sometimes buy snack and ice-cream at the gas station and report that to the custom too! Never got tax for just filling up + snack.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-7-5 22:02

回復 32# peter236

That's what I said! Just tell the truth to BOTH Cdn and US custom that I'm filling up gas and shop grocery.

Btw, ice cream/yogurt/cheese combined no more than $20 value (within 24 hours absence) is also tax free.

作者: BuddhaGirl604 時間: 2010-7-6 15:38

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作者: Arlui 時間: 2010-7-6 16:06

I was told no tax exemption yet correct?

作者: BuddhaGirl604 時間: 2010-7-6 20:19

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作者: billleevanchi 時間: 2010-7-6 21:31

回復 19# fibbi

Yeah, I also like going to pt robert to do some grocery shopping. If you smoke, it is much cheaper to buy some over there. The golf fee is also much cheaper too, many Cdn golfers go there just for golf. And I also like to buy a lot of Oscar Meyer ham too, they taste much better. For the people who do not cook, golf and smoke, they would not understand why so many of us like to go there.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-7-6 22:15

回復 38# billleevanchi

Even I don't smoke nor golf, just milk, egg, cheese alone are so much cheaper, besides gas. Of course, I can find my favourite DRYERS ice cream!!!

作者: cremedelacreme 時間: 2010-7-6 22:28

回復 fibbi

Yeah, I also like going to pt robert to do some grocery shopping. If you smoke, ...
billleevanchi 發表於 2010-7-6 21:31

Yes, my hubby always go there to golf too. And he always comes back with my favorite ice cream too

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-7-6 22:41

ice cream is not basic grocery, so it is subject to taxes. the $20 limit is only apply to basic groceries, which are eggs, milk and.... plus that supermarket really marks up the price. if you add the state tax and exchange rate, sometimes it is better off to buy here. especially the milk, walmart has better price.
if you smoke, you are only allow to take back one opened package. the rest are subject to tax.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-7-7 09:38

本帖最後由 fibbi 於 2010-7-7 09:39 編輯

回復 41# tofu

Ice cream IS basic grocery. It's listed under Dairy product section, together with cream, cheese, yogurt (and a few others). The $20 limit do applies. I have my Nexus tariff guide so it's all listed there.

作者: Arlui 時間: 2010-7-7 09:54

didn't know Ice cream is basic grocery

now i should go down to get some dryers.....

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-7-7 12:30

回復 42# fibbi

BASIC GROCERIES
1. Supplies of food or beverages for human consumption (including sweetening agents, seasonings and other ingredients to be mixed with or used in the preparation of such food or beverages), other than supplies of(k) ice cream, ice milk, sherbet, frozen yoghurt or frozen pudding, non-dairy substitutes for any of the foregoing, or any product that contains any of the foregoing, when packaged or sold in single servings;

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-7-7 12:45

回復 44# tofu

The tariff guide for Nexus user shows that ice creme is under Dairy product category and Dairy product is under basic grocery. Dairy product is subject to the $20 limit tax exemption. Other Basic grocery has different limit.

作者: BuddhaGirl604 時間: 2010-7-7 17:36

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作者: cremedelacreme 時間: 2010-7-8 00:47

My hubby never got taxed too when he brings back ice cream

作者: B2L2 時間: 2010-7-8 10:48

Quoted from http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pub/gm/4-3/4-3-e.pdf

Ice cream and similar products
Sch. VI, Part III, para 1(k)
74. A supply of ice cream, ice milk, sherbet, frozen yoghurt or frozen pudding, non-dairy substitutes for any of the foregoing, or any product that contains any of the foregoing, when packaged or sold in single servings, is taxable.
75. Examples of ice cream and similar products that are taxable, when packaged or sold in single servings, include:
• ice cream sandwiches
• ice cream bars
• tofu-based frozen snacks
• frozen yoghurt bars
----
so a box of ice cream is not taxable since it isn't single servings, but an ice cream bar is taxable since it is single serving. So confusing.

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-7-8 17:03

暈！have to pay hst

4 pet food

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-8 19:28

暈！have to pay hst 4 pet food
habitrailspace 發表於 2010-7-8 17:03

重貴過人食！！！！！！

作者: billleevanchi 時間: 2010-7-8 20:42

其實本身唔多出街食飯﹐HST對我未有太大影響﹐最怕其他野好似咖啡﹐非髮等等小數怕長計。不過本人非常不滿O的工會人土﹐本身人工﹐福利已極好﹐次次合約到期就罷工威脅﹐所以今次HST仲未改變我既投票意向﹐你地有冇因為HST而下次唔揀自由黨呢﹖

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-7-8 20:52

其實本身唔多出街食飯﹐HST對我未有太大影響﹐最怕其他野好似咖啡﹐非髮等等小數怕長計。不過本人非常不滿O的工會人土﹐本身人工﹐福利已極好﹐次次合約到期就罷工威脅﹐所以今次HST仲未改變我既投票意向﹐你地有冇因為HST而下次唔揀自由黨呢﹖

I agree with you. HST is nothing. But we must kill off the unions. There's no future if we don't have people working for $5 an hour.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-7-8 21:02

個個party都係咁上下架啦，天下烏鴉一樣黑。不過點都唔投新民主黨，唔想俾啲工會坐大。

作者: yayaya 時間: 2010-7-8 21:18

狗都要加价，唉。。

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-7-8 22:59

At this point, it's really difficult to choose between the Liberals and the NDP. The Liberals and Gordie Campbell in particular has been in power for too long, and has grown too comfortable and arrogant. On the other hand, the NDP with Carol James at the helm is far too useless.

Ugh...

-Lik

作者: fm9610 時間: 2010-7-8 23:13

本帖最後由 fm9610 於 2010-7-8 23:18 編輯

重貴過人食！！！！！！
sheep 發表於 2010-7-8 19:28

Think about it, pet food is not essential for BC economy or job creation and may not even be made by Canada. Why not tax it?

作者: godavid 時間: 2010-7-9 00:19

we should get green party started

作者: fm9610 時間: 2010-7-9 21:25

回復 57# godavid

If you do not vote Liberal, NDP will come back. Because NDP will always have the union vote. It will be disaster for BC, if the right wing vote is splitted.

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-9 21:27

我係打工仔就話之你

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-7-9 21:35

買鸭又加價,加咗15%,又無酸梅醬!

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-9 21:37

回復 60# habitrailspace

邊間咁CHEAP

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-7-9 21:44

回復 habitrailspace

邊間咁CHEAP
sheep 發表於 2010-7-9 21:37

我唔咁講,未加價之前係有既!

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-9 21:56

回復 62# habitrailspace

係哩
邊間燒鴨好嗟？

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-7-9 22:07

回復 habitrailspace

係哩
邊間燒鴨好嗟？
sheep 發表於 2010-7-9 21:56

ok i give u a gps location: 49.179541 -123.137583

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-9 22:09

回復 64# habitrailspace

哦
係
李滷味

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-7-9 22:15

回復 habitrailspace

哦
係
李滷味
sheep 發表於 2010-7-9 22:09

this is north america, it should be 滷味,李

btw the gps co-ordinations is true

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-7-9 22:40

回復 65# sheep

http://maps.google.ca/
toppy the co-ordinations, then click search maps

作者: godavid 時間: 2010-7-10 00:21

回復 godavid

If you do not vote Liberal, NDP will come back. Because NDP will always have the uni ...
fm9610 發表於 2010-7-9 21:25

why we should keep voting for liberal and NDP?
how they are responsible in these years?

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-10 08:28

回復 67# habitrailspace

收到

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-10 08:38

回復 64# habitrailspace

話時話
佢啲燒味又係幾得嘅

作者: fm9610 時間: 2010-7-10 10:21

why we should keep voting for liberal and NDP?
how they are responsible in these years?
godavid 發表於 2010-7-10 00:21

You do not need to vote for NDP, unions will and they will get at least 30% of the vote. If liberal only get 20%, because 10% gone to Green party or Conservatives. Who do you think will have the MAJORITY and govern BC for the next 4 years?

My logic may not be right and stand to be corrected.

作者: godavid 時間: 2010-7-10 22:14

stupid unions, what are they doing this for liberal?
how do they earn a profit from the liberals?

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-7-12 15:59

一杯奶茶加價25%becoz of hst

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-7-12 16:10

生意至少減10％有人說要關門. 華埠部分店鋪吃HST苦頭
[2010-07-12]

圖文：本報記者徐嘉銘統一銷售稅（HST）本月1日在卑詩省實施以來，已經11天，溫哥華華埠有零售業者表示，HST讓生意至少下跌10%，甚至有商戶直言，不久就要結束營業。
華埠一家參茸海味行東主朱先生星期日拿出計算機按了幾個鍵，對本報記者說，以一盒價格77元的靈芝產品為例，在HST實施之前，連同5%的聯邦貨勞稅（GST），合共80.85元，現在則要付86.24元，兩者相差逾5元。
他說：「很多顧客一看到連稅價錢太貴，就不買了。這種產品以前每個月至少可賣出20盒，自HST實施至今，一盒都沒有賣出，只能繼續擺著。」

華埠一些店鋪經營者表示，自HST實施以來，生意至少減少一成。圖為華埠市況。

朱先生指出，他們店內有些要收HST的成藥，基本上生意減少了至少20%，還好店內還有很多貨品，不必付HST，對生意的影響還是在可控制範圍內。
在華埠廣場內經營涼果生意的李先生，則因生意太差而萌生結業的念頭。他指出，華埠廣場從去年暑假，市府要求廣場內的空地不得擺攤之後，他的貨品都轉移到小小的店面，與另一賣日用品的印裔女商人合租，但生意較為清淡。
該位印裔商人表示，她曾有一天營業額僅35元的紀錄，平均每天也只有50元上下。李先生則很感慨地說，現在他自己很多時每天營業額只有20元。他提到，生意最好是6月底HST實施之前幾天，天天都很旺，但踏入7月以後，就很慘淡了。
華埠廣場內一化妝品店職員黃小姐表示，化妝品以前是GST和省銷售稅（PST）都要收，因為是兩個稅，老闆就只收5%的GST，另7%的PST就代客支付。
黃小姐分析，HST一次要收12%，老闆沒有辦法再吸收一部分，導致商品變貴，客人就不來了，HST實施前10天，生意至少跌了10%。她也對短期生意有起色表示不樂觀。

朱先生持計算機，計算HST實施後顧客需付多少錢。

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-12 16:34

停車場加 20％
飛髮加 25％
HST 被人利用做加價嘅藉口
又係逃稅嘅借口

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-7-12 16:51

回復 75# sheep

i~ 羊毛出在羊身上

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-7-12 19:36

回復 76# habitrailspace

夏天剪毛就涼快嗟
冷天就弊喇

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-7-12 21:20

慢慢就慣
12%根本就唔多
好多其他地方都唔知呢個數
UK VAT多成倍
咪又係咁

咁多時間complain
不如想下點樣搵多D好過

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-7-12 21:35

慢慢就慣
12%根本就唔多
好多其他地方都唔知呢個數
UK VAT多成倍
咪又係咁

咁多時間complain
不如想下點樣 ...
快樂牛郎發表於 2010-7-12 21:20

"搵多D"

牛哥, do u know the tax system here?

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-7-12 21:39

Colin Hansen: HST comes with new tax credit and income tax relief By Staff

The following is an unsolicited letter on the HST from B.C. finance minister Colin Hansen that was sent to the Georgia Straight:
May 28, 2010
The Editor
We know introducing the Harmonized Sales Tax on July 1 will benefitB.C.’s economy and, at the same time, we recognize there will beadditional tax on some products and services.
That’s why we’re providing a B.C. HST Credit that will be paidquarterly to over 1.1 million low- and modest-income BritishColumbians. The annual credit will be $230 per family member forfamilies with incomes up to $25,000 and individuals with incomes up to$20,000. Individuals and families with incomes above these thresholdsmay be eligible for a partial benefit, for example, a family of fourwith income between $25,000 and $48,000 will receive a partial credit.Eligible British Columbians will receive the first HST credit paymentin early July, along with the BC Low Income Climate Action Tax Creditand the GST credit.
We are also providing income tax relief by increasing the basicpersonal amount tax credit to $11,000. This means up to $80 back in thepockets of individuals and up to $160 for those claiming spousalcredits. People earning up to $18,800 generally pay no provincialpersonal income tax. British Columbia has the lowest provincial incometaxes in Canada for individuals earning up to $118,000.
For more information, please visit www.gov.bc.ca/hst
Colin Hansen
Minister of Finance and Deputy Premier

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-7-13 08:46

some restaurants raised their price even higher than HST, they secretly raised their price at the same time

作者: news 時間: 2010-7-13 09:19

i love canada...who ppl in the middle always get screwed...well i guess its the same for most other places right

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-7-13 10:33

i love canada...who ppl in the middle always get screwed...well i guess its the same for most other ...
news 發表於 2010-7-13 09:19

true but sad to see ppl raised their price using this as an opportunity, it's very 奸

作者: Arlui 時間: 2010-7-13 16:27

ooo....raise price after July 1st? do you guys have any examples?

has anyone noticed that the gas prices has been up and down lately? i remember the day before July 1st i saw huge lineups at the gas stations...people might have thought that the gas prices will soar the next day? But the next day it seems to be the same...

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-7-13 16:37

i love canada...who ppl in the middle always get screwed...well i guess its the same for most other ...
news 發表於 2010/7/13 09:19

yes it's the same everywhere

作者: godavid 時間: 2010-7-13 23:15

how does that stupid hst affect people?

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-7-14 01:26

how does that stupid hst affect people?
godavid 發表於 2010-7-13 23:15

I can't see anything yet... maybe the cash in my pocket went faster but who cares?

作者: godavid 時間: 2010-7-14 08:05

why bother, just like samsung said...who cares

作者: water 時間: 2010-8-23 00:20

Went to 金X餐廳two weeks ago. Find out that they raised their price a lot + HST together, much more expensive than before. Why choose to raise price at this HST time?????

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