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作者: Lik 時間: 2010-8-3 15:34 標題: 滬寧高鐵車廂僅1旅客

http://hk.news.yahoo.com/article/100722/4/jarx.html

滬寧高鐵車廂僅1客
(明報)2010年7月23日星期五 05:05

【明報專訊】本月1日開通的滬寧（上海至南京）高鐵反應冷淡，雖然車程縮短一半，但乘客抱怨票價太貴，二等座票價146元（人民幣，下同），一等更要233元，比現有的滬寧動車貴近一倍。本周二，在一列從蘇州開往上海的滬寧高鐵上，有車廂只得1名旅客。

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-8-3 15:35

Hmm... I wonder what 高鐵 Peter has to say about this?

-Lik

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2010-8-3 15:41

Wow, isn't that amazing? 1 passenger occupied the whole cart for the journey. I can only imagine it happens to our domestic flight here...

作者: Arlui 時間: 2010-8-3 15:43

so it's too expensive?

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-8-3 15:54

cool

love to ride it

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-8-3 17:53

一個人搭, 包車! 正!!!

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-3 21:37

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-8-3 21:38 編輯

滬寧高鐵車廂僅1客
(明報)2010年7月23日星期五 05:05

【明報專訊】本月1日開通的滬寧（上海至南京）高 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-8-3 15:34

This piece of news is a little old, as it is from 7/23/2010.
So I did some research on this. This is most likely news reporter's propaganda. You can always take a photo like this on a train that departs at 6 am in the morning. Even a subway train in Shanghai or Beijing can be nearly empty very early in the morning. But the thing is many people complained that they had to wait for up to two hours at Hongqiao airport hub to get a seat on the highspeed train during peak hours.

A train on the same route:

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-8-3 21:50

Old news? Heck, it's barely a week old, and you're calling it stale news already? And when you can't find any info on why there is only 1 passenger in the whole train, you just brush it off as "news propaganda".

Gotta love how our Big China Peter respond to any of these news articles that paint the Great Motherland in anything less than an optimal light!

-Lik

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-3 22:00

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-8-3 22:08 編輯

Old news? Heck, it's barely a week old, and you're calling it stale news already? And when you can't ...
Lik 發表於 2010-8-3 21:50

You moron, I already said you can pick a particular carriage on a train very early in the morning. Very likely there will be few passengers.
These highspeed trains are packed during peak hours. Have you ever taken a highspeed train in China?

"有車廂只得1名旅客" What a stupid fool you are who can't even read? They said 有車廂 with 1 passenger.
Who said there was only 1 passenger on the whole train?

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-8-3 22:07

What about buses and skytrains with only 1 passenger?

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-8-3 22:14

Do buses and skytrains cost a gazillion dollars to build?

-Lik

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-8-3 22:19

Do buses and skytrains cost a gazillion dollars to build?

-Lik
Lik 發表於 2010/8/3 22:14

Where would the $ go if they didn't build this?

作者: ricrick 時間: 2010-8-4 00:45

the money should go to the poor.. should be used to build better schools, better hospitals, better roads in rural areas (...o ya)

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-8-4 01:14

the money should go to the poor.. should be used to build better schools, better hospitals, better ...
ricrick 發表於 2010/8/4 00:45

I asked where the $ WOULD go, not SHOULD go.

作者: ricrick 時間: 2010-8-4 09:32

點都會袋入d貪官污吏個袋la, but d錢要用，先有得濕腳ga ma，最緊要用得多，濕得快

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-4 10:40

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-8-4 10:48 編輯

the money should go to the poor.. should be used to build better schools, better hospitals, better ...
ricrick 發表於 2010-8-4 00:45

They are already doing that in China. Building schools, hospitals, and roads does not mean they should not build more railways which are now congested as there are so much passenger and freight traffic.
There are hundreds of millions of people who use these highspeed railways and also subway in China. These public transportation are aimed at reducing the reliance on cars and highways.
The Chinese highspeed railway system is putting the Americans to shame, hahaha.

作者: ricrick 時間: 2010-8-4 13:06

bull ****.. 高鐵is only for rich ppl and only dumb ass would think it can empower your country
that's a shame for a government to use a huge amount of money to build something that can only serve a minority of ppl

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-8-4 13:14

that's a shame for a government to use a huge amount of money to build something that can only serve a minority of pplricrick 發表於 2010/8/4 13:06

In the US, this is fine since the top 5% of earners contribute 75% of taxes, so it makes sense for them to receive more benefits than those who never pay taxes in their lives.

Unfortunately this is not quite true. We have way too many leechers.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-4 13:33

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-8-4 13:35 編輯

bull ****.. 高鐵is only for rich ppl and only dumb ass would think it can empower your country
that' ...
ricrick 發表於 2010-8-4 13:06

You moron, the rich Chinese drive their own BMWs.
The highspeed railway is a long term multi-decade plan for the hundreds of millions of people who can now avoid driving their cars. Just look at Japan and Europe, their highspeed railway is for the general people.

作者: news 時間: 2010-8-4 15:38

本帖最後由 news 於 2010-8-4 15:45 編輯

回復 19# peter236

yes but they hv a higher earning on average?
its good that they are building this and building that..but does it really benefit the real general public that only earn 1k a month...you can say that these trains are not for those workers...so then what's the point to build them if only the rich can afford them

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-4 17:03

回復 peter236

yes but they hv a higher earning on average?
its good that they are building t ...
news 發表於 2010-8-4 15:38

If you go to China you can see many of these highspeed trains are packed with people. We are talking about hundreds of millions of city people who can afford highspeed trains.
For those workers who cannot afford they can still use the older trains.
This highspeed train project will take decades to build and it will serve the country for decades more.
Highspeed trains are reducing air pollution and the reliance on cars.

Just look at Japan and Europe, they built their highspeed railway decades ago, when the income in Japan was still very low.

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-8-4 17:34

Just look at Japan and Europe, they built their highspeed railway decades ago, when the income in Japan was still very low.
peter236 發表於 2010-8-4 17:03

joke of the day

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-8-4 17:43

yes but they hv a higher earning on average?
its good that they are building this and building that..but does it really benefit the real general public that only earn 1k a month...you can say that these trains are not for those workers...so then what's the point to build them if only the rich can afford themnews 發表於 2010/8/4 15:38

the ticket price is not that outrageous.
many urban workers can afford it

if you say that it's not built for farmers
then yes, it's not
but what's the problem?

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-8-4 17:46

you can say that these trains are not for those workers...so then what's the point to build them if only the rich can afford them
news 發表於 2010-8-5 07:38

多口插個花... 咁中國係唔係因為窮人太多, 所以要停止哂所有國內航線飛機? 因為大部分窮人都比唔起錢去買機票.

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-8-4 17:49

多口插個花... 咁中國係唔係因為窮人太多, 所以要停止哂所有國內航線飛機? 因為大部分窮人都比唔起錢去買 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-8-4 17:46

飛機係國營？

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-8-4 18:07

飛機係國營？
sheep 發表於 2010-8-5 09:49

當然唔係啦! 但你認為實力雄厚既中共冇能力停哂d 內陸機咩?
每個機場停兩三架戰鬥機就搞掂啦!

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-4 20:04

joke of the day
sheep 發表於 2010-8-4 17:34

nonsense from you yet again.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-4 20:06

當然唔係啦! 但你認為實力雄厚既中共冇能力停哂d 內陸機咩?
每個機場停兩三架戰鬥機就搞掂啦! ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-8-4 18:07

Airports in Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou are among the busiest airports in the world. So there are lots of passengers even though the farmers can't afford yet.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-8-4 20:17

Airports in Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou are among the busiest airports in the world. So there ...
peter236 發表於 2010-8-5 12:06

題外話(其實我MJJ 有幾何係講題內話丫), 仲記得五年前既暑假去北京... 到北京機場, 要o係停機坪落機, 烈日當空之下, 搭一架冇冷氣, 仲要係好迫既接駁巴士去大堂, 真係幾乎熱死.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-4 21:16

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-8-4 21:18 編輯

mcjohnjohn, I know how you feel. But now is totally different, with the new Beijing airport terminal 3 that opened right before the 2008 Olympics. The new building is stunning in design and twice the size of Hong Kong airport.

Of course, the newly expanded Shanghai Pudong and Honqiao airports and Guangzhou airports are also very modern and efficient.

作者: news 時間: 2010-8-5 00:57

本帖最後由 news 於 2010-8-5 01:04 編輯

回復 23# 快樂牛郎

it's not a problem.its just tht our friend peter always btches abt how great the motherland is and build this and that sht..invest this invest for everyone blah blah blah..then went on saying how europe and japan and sht...im just saying its only for the people who can afford them and those people are probably only 20 to 40% of the population in china

作者: news 時間: 2010-8-5 01:00

本帖最後由 news 於 2010-8-5 01:03 編輯

回復 24# mcjohnjohn

well if there are no demand for it...eventually it will have to be shut down..but the motherland will probably feed money into it bcoz they dont want to hv no face in front of the foreigners

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-5 01:22

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-8-5 01:30 編輯

回復快樂牛郎

it's not a problem.its just tht our friend peter always btches abt how great the ...
news 發表於 2010-8-5 00:57

wow, hahaha, 20-40% of China's population is already hundreds of millions of people. Don't you realized that? Besides, the highspeed railway project is designed to serve the country for decades to come, during which the people will become even richer so more people can afford.
For those people who cannot afford they can still use the older trains. This highspeed train project will take decades to build and it will serve the country for decades more. Highspeed trains are reducing air pollution and the reliance on cars.

Just look at Japan, they built their highspeed railway decades ago, when their income in Japan was still very low. The highspeed railway had positive impact on Japan's economy. The Koreans are also expanding their highspeed railway.
China has also signed agreements with Argentina to build their highspeed railway. Therefore, money can be made by selling railway technology to other countries.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-5 01:29

回復 mcjohnjohn

well if there are no demand for it...eventually it will have to be shut down..but ...
news 發表於 2010-8-5 01:00

Have you ever taken highspeed railway in China? it is packed with people especially during peak hours.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-8-5 18:37

回復 mcjohnjohn

well if there are no demand for it...eventually it will have to be shut down..but ...
news 發表於 2010-8-5 17:00

咁又唔係喇, 中國既國內航線應該唔少人搭. 上年去左深圳機場做野, 都見到唔少人等機啊~

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-8-5 18:39

Have you ever taken highspeed railway in China? it is packed with people especially during peak ho ...
peter236 發表於 2010-8-5 17:29

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作者: news 時間: 2010-8-6 09:43

回復 34# peter236

have you?

作者: news 時間: 2010-8-6 09:47

回復 35# mcjohnjohn

yeah i nkow..what i want to say is..there will be always ppl using whtever services that are built..but like someone here always claiming those stuff are built for everyone to use when the majority of the population cannot even afford it..its wrong.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-6 11:00

回復 peter236

have you?
news 發表於 2010-8-6 09:43

I tried the highspeed train in China before.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-6 11:03

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-8-6 11:06 編輯

回復 mcjohnjohn

yeah i nkow..what i want to say is..there will be always ppl using whtever s ...
news 發表於 2010-8-6 09:47

You keep on claiming that there is no demand and only 20-40% of the people use it.
But if 30% of the people in China use highspeed train, that is already 400 million people. This number will increase over the next few decades as the highspeed railway project is designed to serve for decades.
Some people will use highspeed railway, some will drive themselves, some will take the plane and some will take the bus. Why can't you understand this?
Does everyone here take the skytrain?

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-6 11:07

咁又唔係喇, 中國既國內航線應該唔少人搭. 上年去左深圳機場做野, 都見到唔少人等機啊~ ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-8-5 18:37

Beijing, Shanghai and Giuangzhou are among the busiest airports in the world.

作者: news 時間: 2010-8-6 11:15

回復 39# peter236

you have proof?

作者: news 時間: 2010-8-6 11:18

回復 40# peter236

i didnt say there is no demand...you are the one who keep saying about how the motherland built sht for everyone

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-6 11:47

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-8-6 11:51 編輯

回復 peter236

i didnt say there is no demand...you are the one who keep saying about how the moth ...
news 發表於 2010-8-6 11:18

You are just jealous that China has highspeed railway for millions of people and they reduces pollution and reliance on cars, while you are driving your polluting car here.

These highspeed trains are packed during peak hours.

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