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作者: yokult 時間: 2010-8-5 07:38 標題: Air China - Anyone tried? Or would you try?

I am looking for flight to HKG this Fall.

The price from Air China or China Eastern is very attractive, but I worry about the safety and also the service.

Has anyone tried and can share experience?

=)

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2010-8-5 12:22

<peter2打6~

作者: 嘉嘉 時間: 2010-8-5 12:29

N-O no

i remember there was a news about those pilots couldn't even communicate with the control tower and frustrated the control tower staff a lot

作者: daimo 時間: 2010-8-5 12:31

one fatal accident since 1988 from Wiki.

On April 15, 2002, Flight 129, a Boeing 767-200ER from Beijing to Busan, South Korea, crashed into a hill while trying to land at Gimhae International Airport during inclement weather, killing 128 of the 166 people on board.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-8-5 12:34

I am not 100% certain about this, but if your flight is YVR --> PEK --> HKG, you might still need a Chinese visa.

Best to ask our Mainland China expert la~

-Lik

作者: daimo 時間: 2010-8-5 12:36

I don't think I'll have trouble flying Air China. on the other hand, I'll have real trouble with China airlines.

* On 12 August 1970, China Airlines Flight 206, a NAMC YS-11, struck a ridge while landing at Taipei, killing 14 people. This was the airline's first fatal accident.
* On 20 November 1971, China Airlines Flight 825, a Caravelle aircraft, blew up after a bomb on it exploded, causing the deaths of 25 people over the Penghu Islands.
* On 21 August 1983, China Airlines Flight 811, a Boeing 747 from Taipei, landed in Manila. Benigno Aquino Jr. the former senator in Philippines was assassinated after being escorted from the plane. The case is not yet solved.
* On 19 February 1985, China Airlines Flight 006, a Boeing 747SP, performed an uncontrolled descent over the Pacific Ocean resulting in substantial damage to the aircraft.
* On 16 February 1986, China Airlines Flight 2265, a Boeing 737, crashed in Makung, Penghu, killing 13.
* On 26 October 1989, a China Airlines Flight 204 Boeing 737-200 crashed shortly after takeoff from Hualien, Taiwan. All 54 passengers and crew aboard were killed.
* On 29 December 1991, China Airlines Flight 358, a Boeing 747 freighter, hit a hillside at Wanli, Taiwan after separation of its No.3 & 4 engines, killing five people.
* On 4 November 1993, China Airlines Flight 605, a brand new Boeing 747-400, overran the Kai Tak Airport runway 13 while landing during a typhoon. It had touched down more than 2/3 down the runway and was unable to stop before the end of the runway, finishing up in Hong Kong harbor. All 396 people on board were safely evacuated but the aircraft was written off. The vertical stabilizer was dynamited away due to its interference with Kai Tak's ILS systems.
* On 26 April 1994, China Airlines Flight 140, an Airbus A300, crashed while landing at Nagoya, Japan, killing 264 people.
* On 16 February 1998, China Airlines Flight 676, an Airbus A300, crashed after a failed missed-approach at Chiang Kai-shek International Airport in Taiwan, killing all 196 aboard along with 9 on the ground, including Taiwan Central Bank chief Hsu Yuan-Dong.
* On 22 August 1999, China Airlines Flight 642, a McDonnell Douglas MD-11, flipped over while landing at Hong Kong airport during a typhoon. Three people were killed.
* On 25 May 2002, China Airlines Flight 611, a Boeing 747-200B, broke up in mid-air on the way to Hong Kong International Airport in Hong Kong from Chiang Kai-shek International Airport in Taiwan. All 206 passengers and 19 crew members died. The aircraft was the last 747-200 in China Airlines' fleet.
* On 20 August 2007, China Airlines Flight 120, a Boeing 737-800 inbound from Taipei caught fire shortly after landing at Naha Airport in Okinawa Prefecture, Japan. After stopping on the tarmac, the engine started smoking and burning, and later exploded causing the aircraft to catch fire.[29] A statement from the airline confirmed that all passengers and crew members were safely evacuated, and a ground engineer knocked off his feet by the blast was unhurt.[30] The cause of the explosion has been attributed to a fuel leak caused by a bolt from the right wing slat puncturing the fuel tank.[31]

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2010-8-5 13:33

tried, still alive.

Don't scare yourself. *yawn*

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-5 14:31

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-8-5 14:33 編輯

Air China, and China Eastern are the big Chinese carriers. They use the new planes. This is not surprising because China is the biggest customer of Boeing and Airbus. The new generation of Chinese pilots are trained in Canada or Australia. They have new modern airports in Beijing and Shanghai.
Food and services are above average, but not as good as Cathay. So in particular if the price is good, go for it.

作者: B2L2 時間: 2010-8-5 14:43

I don't think I'll have trouble flying Air China. on the other hand, I'll have real trouble with Ch ...
daimo 發表於 2010-8-5 12:36

I tried China Airlines 2 months ago and I'm still alive. So now I dare to fly any airline.

Actually what bothered me with China Airline is the people. Many Taiwaneses and Indians on the plane were just out of norm (YVR->Taipei).

作者: Arlui 時間: 2010-8-5 15:48

I am not 100% certain about this, but if your flight is YVR --> PEK --> HKG, you might still need a ...
Lik 發表於 2010-8-5 12:34

I was told the same thing...even if you have a "wui hurn jing", you can't use it to enter China from Vancouver...

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-5 17:03

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-8-5 17:05 編輯

I was told the same thing...even if you have a "wui hurn jing", you can't use it to enter China fr ...
Arlui 發表於 2010-8-5 15:48

If you just transfer in Beijing airport, you may not need a Chinese visa or "wui hurn jing", because you are not entering China. Just make sure your luggages are transferred, so you don't need to check-in again. I not sure about this.

作者: martintin 時間: 2010-8-5 21:03

tried-->pretty +good~

作者: fm9610 時間: 2010-8-5 22:38

回復 12# martintin

If you can fly before Sept30, air canxda now has a sale for $800 return.

作者: asukai 時間: 2010-8-5 23:58

I tried China Eastern last fall, YVR<->Shanghai<->HKG, you dun need a 回鄉證(我拃加拿大護照)。但係如果你有回鄉證既話﹐甘就最好帶埋啦。in case 者。不過搭東航最衰既就係去到上海要自己去行理帶都check 下拒有無直送去目的地。有次我就係上海賴左野~ >_>

作者: bubblesalt 時間: 2010-8-6 08:56

本帖最後由 bubblesalt 於 2010-8-6 08:58 編輯

My nephew visited Vancouver from HK, his flight was Hong Kong -> Beijing -> Vancouver.

But his HK -> Beijing flight couldn't land in Beijing, they said it was some "flight quota" (not bad weather or anything), so they flew to some small city WAY up north, kept them in the plane for 3 hours, then got the passengers in a really horrible hotel. He had to wait until the next day before flying to Beijing again, then another couple of hours wait and fly to Vancouver, he was delayed for more than 24 hours.

If you are on vacation, I do not think you want to wait 24 hours stuck in an airport. I would TOTALLY pay that $2-300 more to go Cathy Pacific.

作者: creamy 時間: 2010-8-19 08:34

Flew with China Eastern and I would never fly with them again. The stewardess were extremely rude.....and the trip was not pleasant at all.

AC and CX both have seatsales now. With taxes, it's around $1000 for AC and $1200 for CX for direct flight to HKG.

作者: godavid 時間: 2010-8-19 20:22

if you want to feel the disaster
go for china one

作者: chocobun 時間: 2010-8-20 11:14

回復 martintin

If you can fly before Sept30, air canxda now has a sale for $800 return.
fm9610 發表於 2010-8-5 22:38

don't fly with them if you are in a hurry/ short vacation
they are so well known to have delayed flights and delayed/lost luggages

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-20 13:59

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-8-20 14:02 編輯

don't fly with them if you are in a hurry/ short vacation
they are so well known to have delayed f ...
chocobun 發表於 2010-8-20 11:14

I don't know why Air Canada does not fly to Hong Kong in the afternoon.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-8-20 15:32

回復 18# chocobun

Are you referring to Air Canada for delay and lost luggage?
Touch wood those didn't happened to me before...I flew with them to HK at least once a year...

作者: godavid 時間: 2010-8-20 18:43

air canada do morning/night trip?

作者: lovelyfriend 時間: 2010-8-21 17:24

The differences are about the services of the company ......

For safety aspects,
Statistically, taking a plane is one of the most safety transportation in the world ....

作者: cremedelacreme 時間: 2010-8-22 11:05

本帖最後由 cremedelacreme 於 2010-8-22 11:12 編輯

don't fly with them if you are in a hurry/ short vacation
they are so well known to have delayed f ...
chocobun 發表於 2010-8-20 11:14

I don't agree AC has a lot of delay nor lost baggage wor. They are quite on time. And you have to understand sometimes flight delay are due to weather condition, and many other issues, which are uncontrollable. Also , sometimes if there is a small warning light that came on before departure, some smaller airlines might not take the extra time to figure it the problem out, that's why we always see those air accidents on MayDay. It does takes time for maintenance personnel to fix the problem, and for the pilots to look up their manual to make sure that the plane is safe to fly with that particular issue. Its better to be safe than sorry.

Anyway, I personally think Air China, and China Eastern are not that bad. The food are not the best, but seriously you don't expect to have a feast on a flight right? At least its an airline that I would take. The only Airline I wouldn't risk my life is China Airlines.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-8-22 12:58

Well...the biggest problem with Air Canada is....the service lor...For international flight...the flight attendant certainly give you an attitude...

作者: tofu 時間: 2010-8-24 00:28

i took a 3hrs flight from hk by china eastern and i promised myself i won't take china eastern.
the washroom was smell, and the staffs were rude. i rather to pay a little more and won't risk myself for a 13hrs flight
delay is one of the horrible problem with chinese airlines. watched the show 锵锵三人行100820（飞机延误晚点与乘客纠纷）, they mentioned the govn't is enforcing some punishments now, so hope they will improve.

作者: Lil'B 時間: 2010-8-24 09:47

I took Air China before, it was ok. But China Eastern, I heard of delays and rude flight attendant services. With few hundred bucks less, just don't expect you have equal service as CX/AC.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-24 11:41

I took Air China before, it was ok. But China Eastern, I heard of delays and rude flight attendant s ...
Lil'B 發表於 2010-8-24 09:47

I heard many times before, that Air China is way better than China Eastern.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-8-24 11:44

Well...the biggest problem with Air Canada is....the service lor...For international flight...the fl ...
fibbi 發表於 2010-8-22 12:58

What type of attitude you saw?

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-8-25 07:47

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作者: donshiu 時間: 2010-9-11 17:35

Air Canada if you can fly in Sept or Nov/10, I think they change the schudle back to afternoon in fall check with your agent

作者: kencyliu 時間: 2010-9-12 14:11

iIjust came back from China by Air China. Everything was ok except the narrower space.
The landing was awesome.
As what Lik said, you may need a Chinese visa, check it with an agent.

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-9-12 15:42

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