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作者: tiffiant    時間: 2010-9-16 07:43     標題: 台搶攻釣島

釣魚島主權爭議愈演愈烈，向日抗議的聲音由官方擴至民間，海峽兩岸保釣行動升級。在大陸漁船船長詹其雄仍然遭日本政府扣查、北京叫停正常中日外交活動之際，台灣保釣船昨凌晨亦往釣島海域宣示主權，遭日本海上保安廳空群出動巡邏船及直升機，進行海空包圍攔截，輪番開強力探射燈和廣播警告，台灣的海巡署護航艦艇用射燈反照還擊，雙方在海上對峙五個多小時，保釣船最後因為無法突圍，被迫折返。目前正部署下一波抗議行動。

載有中華保釣協會執行長黃錫麟等兩名台灣保釣人士的漁船「感恩99號」，前天下午從台北縣野柳漁港出發，台灣的行政院轄下的海巡署動員「和星艦」等六艦一船五艇共十二船艦，尾隨執行護航任務。但此次保釣行動卻連生波折，原訂隨船出發的多名港澳人士，最終因台灣當局阻撓而未能隨行。

保釣船前天深夜接近釣魚島海域，即遭兩艘日本海上保安廳巡邏船跟蹤監視。昨凌晨一時四十七分，保釣船駛至釣島西南三十九公里處，進入日本自稱的專屬經濟區水域，日方以八艘巡邏船組成防線，用船身推擠，阻擋保釣船前行，日方連同外圍的船艇共有約十一艘，並出動直升機在空中監視。台方以六艘巡防艦在前、五艘巡防艇殿後，圍繞保釣船和日方對峙，氣氛緊張。
作者: tiffiant    時間: 2010-9-16 07:43

台艦隊與日海上對峙五小時
對峙期間，日方巡邏船再用探射燈照向保釣船干擾航行，並以擴音器用中文廣播：「釣魚島是我們的海域，請你們快點離開」，還藉不斷排廢氣驅趕保釣船。台灣海巡署船艦亦用相同招數反擊，用射燈反照日方，並以廣播宣示主權，雙方展開長達五個多小時的對峙。早上近七時，台灣海巡署船隻被日本保安廳艦艇隔開，保釣船因無法突圍決定返航。日本海上保安廳指出，保釣船中途時開時停，日艇一度跟隨折返的保釣船，直至約九時半駛離日方聲稱的專屬經濟區。

台日政府就對峙風波互提抗議，台灣的外交部昨提出嚴正抗議，重申釣魚島為台灣固有領土，台方任何船艦在釣島海域活動，屬主權管轄範圍，要求日方勿作干擾。日本內閣官房長官仙谷由人同日向台方提出抗議。共同社報道，台灣的外交部前天召見日本駐台代表今井正，今井正對台方讓保釣船出海提出抗議，表示極度遺憾。

保釣成員轟馬英九軟弱無能
保釣船昨晚平安返抵台北縣野柳漁港，船身未受損，黃錫麟指出，海巡署船隻被日本艦艇隔開，惟有結束行動，他批評馬英九護漁無力、軟弱無能，協會計劃籌集一千萬新台幣購置保釣船，會不時到釣島宣示主權，並監督政府派船保護。海巡署回應，派出十二艘船為保釣船護航，並與日方船隻對峙，是歷來保釣任務出動最多艦艇的一次，總統府則重申，維護釣魚島主權是政府堅持的一貫立場，從未改變
作者: mukmuk2    時間: 2010-9-16 07:44

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作者: tiffiant    時間: 2010-9-16 07:44






WE MUST protect our lands, chinese people
作者: mukmuk2    時間: 2010-9-16 08:28

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作者: Lik    時間: 2010-9-16 09:20

I fully agree that the Diaoyu Islands should have belonged to China, but as much as I hate to admit, by international laws and standards, the effective "ownership rights" have long been lost to Japan now. And this is entirely due to the incompetency and lack of action on both PRC and ROC.

Since the 50's (might even have been a bit earlier), Japan has continually exercised their "ownership rights" by occupying the Diaoyu Islands, building structures on it, and petrolling the waters close by with their "defence" ships, while China has only occasionally voiced the ownership of the islands in foreign affair speeches while taking zero official government action. By international standards, a continual lack of presence, occupation, and petrolling the area on China's part effectively means they have forfeited their ownership claims on the piece of land. On the other hand, Japan has continually been doing this for 50+ years. Taken to the international courts, China would most definitely lose the ownership claims to Japan.

A simple analogy is, consider what happens when I move into an empty house that you originally owned. I live there for 50 years and all you do is tell people the house is yours, not mine while taking zero real action to kick me out. In 50 year's time, any reasonable law court would have concluded that your lack of action is simply an admission on your part that you have given up ownership of the house, and that the place now belongs to me.

This is what is happening now with the Diaoyu Islands. It has been forever lost to Japan because of the lack of action from China and its government.

-Lik
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-16 10:01

回復 6# Lik

I guess what you want to say the most is -- the ownership of Hong Kong shall have been lost to UK forever long long time ago.
作者: rainbow-davie    時間: 2010-9-16 11:06

I think either China decalers they will have military practise there.
or
Announce Nuclear testing on this island
or
Just Fxxk it, nuclear bomb it.  No one get it.  Thanks God.
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-9-16 11:31

回復  Lik

I guess what you want to say the most is -- the ownership of Hong Kong shall have been lost to UK forever long long time ago.rockypath 發表於 2010-9-16 10:01

擦鞋狗，

你識唔識字㗎？當年英國係同中國「租借」香港 99年，就算租借條款點樣唔公平都好，租借嘅契約響97年完咗嘅時候，因為中英雙方都無續約，所以自然要還返香港俾中國啦？

-力
作者: peter236    時間: 2010-9-16 11:47

擦鞋狗，

你識唔識字㗎？當年英國係同中國「租借」香港 99年，就算租借條款點樣唔公平都好，租借嘅契約響 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-16 11:31

Mr Lik,
The Taiwanese didn't allow your idol long hair and a few others to board the ship. What are you going to say about this? Do you dare to bash the Taiwanese?

If it was HK government that was preventing long hair from boarding the ship, you would have bashed the HK government. Now you coward, dare not bash the ROC Taiwan government that failed to exercise control over Diaoyu Islands for decades.

Your idol long hair was a coward, since he dared not board the ship, after Taiwan officials threatened to disallow his right of entering Taiwan in the future.
作者: peter236    時間: 2010-9-16 11:54

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-9-16 12:15 編輯
I fully agree that the Diaoyu Islands should have belonged to China, but as much as I hate to admit, ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-16 09:20


You stupid moron, Japan and the US have defensive agreement. If China takes any military actions against Diaoyu Islands, the US would use that excuse to invade China.

You can't deny that Diaoyu Islands are under Taiwan province, and the inaction of the ROC in Taiwan has to take responsibility for this situation.
作者: mukmuk2    時間: 2010-9-16 12:13

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作者: Lik    時間: 2010-9-16 13:00

You can't deny that Diaoyu Islands are under Taiwan province, and the inaction of the ROC in Taiwan has to take responsibility for this situation.
peter236 發表於 2010-9-16 11:54

Did you even read my post? After 50+ years worth of inaction, Japan has every right at the international stage to claim the Diaoyu Islands as their land. And whose fault is this? Both the PRC and the ROC.

Why do I even bother with morons like you?

-Lik
作者: Prelude    時間: 2010-9-16 13:03

US has been waiting for excuse to start world war for long time, it's the only way that can rescue US's economy.

US has been trying to get media attention to the sea around Korea and Japan near China recent months, like doing army rehearsal at China's front door few times.  US is trying to provoke China to react, so that US can do their usual marketing about the need to have some kind of war against China, physically or/and economically.
作者: Prelude    時間: 2010-9-16 13:13

It's like you owned a land, but you were weak, no money, no power and no one cared much about you, and some strong gangster dude with power and money built a house in your land and lived there for many years, and you couldn't do anything about it because nobody supported you and you were not big enough to fight him.  Does it make it that the gangster should be the owner of the land?
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-9-16 13:30

What you fail to see, Prelude, is that the while a large scale war will indeed have the potential to both divert attention away from the weak US economy and possibly even revive it in much the same way as WWII did back in the 40's, any sort of real war against China, especially at this point in time, is completely incomprehensible because:

1) the US military has already been way overtaxed and stretched by the Afghanistan and Iraq campaigns.
2) the US and Mainland Chinese economies are so deeply intertwined that they are practically inseparable. If the US try to take any harsh and severe action against China, the US will end up severely damaging their own economy.
3) Furthermore, let's not forget that Mainland China is the biggest debt holder against the US. Mainland China has the trump card of dumping their US treasury bonds to totally send the US economy into the abyss. Obviously, this will severely hurt China as well, but as an act of retaliation, it is certainly conceivable as well.

Even if China and the US were to enter into a US-Russia style cold war at this point in time, China is arguably in a better position than the US as it can still turn to its internal economy and the Middle East, Africa, and South America for economic opportunities. In an all out game of chicken, it is the US that has more to lose.

-Lik
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-9-16 13:36

It's like you owned a land, but you were weak, no money, no power and no one cared much about you, and some strong gangster dude with power and money built a house in your land and lived there for many years, and you couldn't do anything about it because nobody supported you and you were not big enough to fight him.  Does it make it that the gangster should be the owner of the land?
Prelude 發表於 2010-9-16 13:13

You are missing the point. Had the little man repeatedly complained to the authorities and even tried to kick the big bad gangster out, then there would have been more legitimacy to the old ownership claim. But all China (both PRC and ROC) has done for the past 50 years is to set the issue aside, and only make the occasional announcement that the house is theirs while taking no official action at all. By international standards, this simply amounts to your voluntary forfeiting of the land ownership claims. In the mean time, Japan has repeatedly used it naval forces to petrol the nearby seas and kick people out of the nearby areas.

-Lik
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-16 14:10

回復 9# Lik

Should we call you - "賣國賊阿力"?

Enrich your knowledge before BSing here.
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-9-16 14:35

本帖最後由 Lik 於 2010-9-16 14:41 編輯

LOL~

Selling my country out? How am I doing that?

I am simply laying out the facts. I would very much like to see the Diaoyu Islands belonging to China (whichever definition of China that may be), but given the lack of action that China has shown over the past 50+ years, international law simply dictates that China has lost the sovereign right on the islands.

And you want me to enrich my knowledge? Look who is lacking that, and look who is BS-ing here?

Moron~

-Lik

p.s. And btw, I have never been shy to admit that Canada is the one and only country where my loyalty lies. As far back as I can recall, I have never done anything treasonous to Canada. And while I'm at it, allow me to remind you that if you were a naturalized Canadian citizen, you have sworn the oath to be loyal to Canada as well. But from what I can see, you have only pledged your loyalty to Grandfather as his lap dog.
作者: soli    時間: 2010-9-16 16:41

"Since the 50's (might even have been a bit earlier), Japan has continually exercised their "ownership rights" by occupying the Diaoyu Islands, building structures on it, and petrolling the waters close by with their "defence" ships, while China has only occasionally voiced the ownership of the islands in foreign affair speeches while taking zero official government action."

我真係唔明﹐點解力仔可以o甘唔要面﹐當眾狗up一大堆假facts而唔面紅。
1950s﹐日本剛剛戰敗﹐船都唔多隻﹐幾時有派過咩"defence" ships去釣魚台?
1950s﹐釣魚台係由美國管轄﹐日本又點 exercised their "ownership rights"??
直到1971年﹐美國將琉球群島交還日本﹐卻將原屬中國既釣魚台一併交予日本﹐釣魚台主權歸屬爭議先開始。
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-9-16 16:58

哈，啲日子又真係好似搞錯咗少少，但我所講嘅日本行使主權卻一啲都無錯。你自己話俾我聽，由 71年到依家，釣魚台嘅控海權係所屬日本定係中國？係日本海上自衛隊日日派艦過去巡邏同驅趕其他船隻，定係中共海軍或者台灣海軍做呢啲事？

40年又好，50年又好，不爭嘅事實係日本就年年月月、實實在在咁霸住釣魚台，但中共同民國政府兩邊就除咗出口術之外就乜Q野都無做過。你中共又好，民國政府又好，如果你將個地方主權爭議攞去國際法庭嘅話，案照國際法釣魚台都一定會判俾日本！

我只係將呢個現實擺出來俾啲盲丙睇。我心裡面都明知釣魚台嘅主權本來屬於中國，但你兩邊嘅政府乜Q野都唔做，而且重要打壓民間嘅保釣行動，咁又算係點？！

Soli你呢條擦鞋狗，又唔見你鬧阿爺半句？！

-力
作者: Davidcopperfeel    時間: 2010-9-16 17:00

回復  Lik

Should we call you - "賣國賊阿力"?

Enrich your knowledge before BSing here.
rockypath 發表於 2010-9-16 14:10


agree
作者: soli    時間: 2010-9-16 17:20

回復 21# Lik
以笑遮醜﹐真係無恥。

即使係所謂實際控制50年既期限﹐都要係響期間無爭議既情況下先成立。
兩岸在外交上不斷重申釣魚台主權屬中國﹐已可將這所謂期限無限地拖延。
日本無論派幾多保安船去巡邏都無用。

同你呢個賣國力再講多都晒氣~
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-9-16 17:45

齋up都算爭議？我真係唔該你啦！

同你呢啲走狗講多都徙我氣。

而 Davidcopperfeel 呢啲一日淨係識得做跟屁蟲嘅屎忽鬼，真係唔死都無用～

-力
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-16 17:50

回復 21# Lik

Yes, I forgot that you had denied you are a Chinese and feel shameful for your Chinese root. In that sense, I should not call you 賣國賊 since you had denied you are a Chinese. Should I call you 日本養的走狗 instead?

Canadian law, culture and tradition have encouraged Canadians to respect and be proud of their ethnic roots and cultures. Being loyal to Canada also means to recognize and respect your ethnic origins which are the foundation on which Canada was built and prospers.

Back to Diaoyu Island and using your example of house occupancy. I have a house which I do not live in. I asked (or hired) you to upkeep the house for me. Can you claim the ownership of the house 30 years later since you are the person who takes care of the house?  

Don’t try to fool other people and yourself if you do not know the history.
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-16 17:53

回復  Lik
以笑遮醜﹐真係無恥。

即使係所謂實際控制50年既期限﹐都要係響期間無爭議既情況下先成立。
兩 ...
soli 發表於 2010-9-16 17:20


賣國力 knows nothing about International Law and talks about the International Law in front of peopoel.

How stupid!!!
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-9-16 18:08

本帖最後由 somewhereintime 於 2010-9-16 18:35 編輯

Simple Fact :  The PLA has no gut to face off against the Japs, period.
the CCP gov't  has "Harmonized" the citizen's  rally against the Jap
what a coincidence.
I believe that Deng had made some secret deal with the Jap
back in 80's in exchange of  their loan.  Money rules.Both Mao and Deng forfeited the international indemption  
against the  Japs War crime in China.
In fact, without the Jap invasion, there was no hope for CCP to
take over the regime from Chiang.
作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2010-9-16 18:36

屌，夠薑咪攞上國際法庭審囉～～
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-9-16 18:44

本帖最後由 somewhereintime 於 2010-9-16 18:46 編輯

回復 28# MoiRhapsody

China, especially the Communist China, is a giant compare to tiny Israel,
but, the Israeli are very determine people, they hunt down all the Nazi
War Criminals after WW2 at any cost. Hardly any would escape.
The CCP in power are not really modest and generous, just spineless
in front of the Japs.Forgiveness?  since when they show mercy to their own comrades, not
to mention the KMT officials
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-9-16 18:54

Easy solution: just send a squadron of J-10 combat
fighters, render the Diaoyu Islands to gravels.
Then send 10,000 fishing boats escorted by
the mighty PLA navy to harvest that area.
Just to reclaim every inch of ocean Zheng He
had conquered 500 years ago.
A very good 3D  combat  drill and training  for PLA
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-16 19:29

Simple Fact :  The PLA has no gut to face off against the Japs, period.
the CCP gov't  has "Harmoniz ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-9-16 18:08


OK. CCP is a coward and has no gut like you.

Just make it clear that whether you support Lik’s opinion that Diaoyu Islands belongs to Japan?

Do you have the gut to tell everyone clearly and loudly?
作者: soli    時間: 2010-9-16 19:32

對釣魚台既問題﹐只要日本沒在釣魚台駐軍﹐我想大陸(不經台灣)也不會單方面作出軍事行動。這應該是大陸既底線﹐因為大陸一向主張駐軍=擁有主權。

以大陸既現在海軍實力﹐同釣魚台o甘遠既距離﹐就算大陸真要出手﹐最多也只能派潛艇封鎖釣魚台附近海域(再唔得就放水雷)﹐再以外交解決。

收復釣魚台既事﹐還是等航空母艦做好左先講~
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-9-16 19:34

共癡團急先鋒
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-9-16 19:37

It takes the J-10 less than 30 minutes from Hainan Province to
Dianyu Island.
Who know what kind of secret pact Deng had with the Japs
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-9-16 19:38

本帖最後由 somewhereintime 於 2010-9-16 19:41 編輯

I'm a certified educator, I make my live by teaching,The CCP did not pay me to educate 共癡團
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-16 19:42

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2010-9-16 19:44 編輯
The CCP did not pay me to educate 共癡團
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-9-16 19:38


So, you still don't have the gut to stand up like a man. You don't even dare to stand for what you said. What a coward.

Tell Lik the history since you have read 50,000 books.
作者: soli    時間: 2010-9-16 19:43

樓上somewhere君﹐請問你係教咩既?
大學主修咩架?
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-16 19:47

樓上somewhere君﹐請問你係教咩既?
大學主修咩架?
soli 發表於 2010-9-16 19:43


He 教屎片，主修吹水, 縮頭烏龜小學畢業.
作者: soli    時間: 2010-9-16 19:56

回復 38# rockypath
哈哈 講得好
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-9-16 20:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXUpV5A82IM
The Pakistani bought 100  J-11 from China
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2010-9-16 20:01

I think either China decalers they will have military practise there.
or
Announce Nuclear testing on ...
rainbow-davie 發表於 2010-9-17 03:06

my dearest friend, I have to agree with you this time!
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-16 20:02

The Pakistani bought 100  J-11 from China
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-9-16 20:00


Just tell everyone clearly and loundly whether you support what Lik said that Diaoyu Island belongs to Japan.

Show us your gut and stand up like a man. Don't be a coward.
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2010-9-16 20:03

擦鞋狗，

你識唔識字㗎？當年英國係同中國「租借」香港 99年，就算租借條款點樣唔公平都好，租借嘅契約響97年完咗嘅時候，因為中英雙方都無續約，所以自然要還返香港俾中國啦？

-力
Lik 發表於 2010-9-17 03:31

我仲以為英國佬係"搶"左香港而又去"租"左新界tim...
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2010-9-16 20:06

You stupid moron, Japan and the US have defensive agreement. If China takes any military actions against Diaoyu Islands, the US would use that excuse to invade China.
peter236 發表於 2010-9-17 03:54

呢個我又有少少同意... 當年中國勢孤力弱, 受屈辱都係只可以細細聲講, 因為講得太大聲就會比人話佢係恐怖份子, 就會有人乘機出兵去維護世界和平...
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2010-9-16 20:09

What you fail to see, Prelude, is that the while a large scale war will indeed have the potential to ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-17 05:30

Prelude 兄應該係講緊"當年"中國弱, 所以唔敢咁大聲.
而家中國終於都強大起來, 唔駛再睇人地面色做人了! 而家可以大大聲聲去尋回公道! 還我釣魚台!
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2010-9-16 20:16

哈，啲日子又真係好似搞錯咗少少，但我所講嘅日本行使主權卻一啲都無錯。你自己話俾我聽，由 71年到依家， ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-17 08:58

係人都知日本仔有美國佬支持(當然係要負出代價), 當年中國又點敢得罪美國佬!
呢個先係現實, 好明顯有盲丙唔面對當時中國處身於一個弱勢, 基本上做乜都冇用.

而家中國富強了, o係世界既舞台終於可以叫做有一個席位! 而家係時候爭取自己應該擁有既野! 還我釣魚台! 還我釣魚台!
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2010-9-16 20:18

齋up都算爭議？我真係唔該你啦！

同你呢啲走狗講多都徙我氣。

而 Davidcopperfeel 呢啲一日淨係識得做跟 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-17 09:45

今次唔死都冇用果個係你!
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2010-9-16 20:19

In fact, without the Jap invasion, there was no hope for CCP to
take over the regime from Chiang.
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-9-17 10:08

咁係唔係要多謝日本人侵華呀? 痴線...
作者: sheep    時間: 2010-9-16 20:19

Prelude 兄應該係講緊"當年"中國弱, 所以唔敢咁大聲.
而家中國終於都強大起來, 唔駛再睇人地面色做人了!  ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-9-16 20:09



   有中國通時事評論話
中國係富起來了
並沒有強大到
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2010-9-16 20:20

屌，夠薑咪攞上國際法庭審囉～～
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2010-9-17 10:36

其實國際法庭會唔會係一個偏幫美國佬既組織?
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2010-9-16 20:24

有中國通時事評論話
中國係富起來了
並沒有強大到
sheep 發表於 2010-9-17 12:19

點都強過廿幾三十年前既.
當年想取回釣魚台? 世界列強睬你都傻啦, 你老幾?
今時今日, 中國出句聲, 世界列強都要金晴火眼睇清楚形勢啦!
作者: soli    時間: 2010-9-16 20:31

看來力仔響呢次事件中﹐終於露出其外奴既原形。
平時猛bash中國﹐就扮話係為中國好。
哈~ 係人係鬼而加一清二楚。
作者: peter236    時間: 2010-9-16 20:44

有中國通時事評論話
中國係富起來了
並沒有強大到
sheep 發表於 2010-9-16 20:19

You moron, please give us the link.
作者: peter236    時間: 2010-9-16 20:46

It takes the J-10 less than 30 minutes from Hainan Province to
Dianyu Island.
Who know what kind of  ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-9-16 19:37


You fool, the closest military airport with J-10 is not Hainan province. Please update your geography knowledge.
作者: peter236    時間: 2010-9-16 20:48

Easy solution: just send a squadron of J-10 combat
fighters, render the Diaoyu Islands to gravels.
...
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-9-16 18:54

Hey chef, where is you michelin 5 star restaurant?
作者: peter236    時間: 2010-9-16 20:49

LOL~

Selling my country out? How am I doing that?

I am simply laying out the facts. I would very m ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-16 14:35


Mr Lik,
The Taiwanese didn't allow your idol long hair and a few others to board the ship. What are you going to say about this? Do you dare to bash the Taiwanese?

If it was HK government that was preventing long hair from boarding the ship, you would have bashed the HK government. Now you coward, dare not bash the ROC Taiwan government that failed to exercise control over Diaoyu Islands for decades.

Your idol long hair was a coward, since he dared not board the ship, after Taiwan officials threatened to disallow his right of entering Taiwan in the future.
   
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-9-16 20:59

回復  Lik

Back to Diaoyu Island and using your example of house occupancy. I have a house which I do not live in. I asked (or hired) you to upkeep the house for me. Can you claim the ownership of the house 30 years later since you are the person who takes care of the house?  
rockypath 發表於 2010-9-16 17:50

屌，我都廢撚事同你呢三個共癡團繼續講。你個 example 根本就全錯。中國幾時叫日本打理釣魚台？

就算係當年，中共亦只係向錢看，為咗日本借嘅錢同投資，就懶大方咁話唔講釣魚台嘅主權問題。

要講邊個賣國嘅話，唔該你班契弟翻查一吓係我地近代邊位偉大領導人將東北幾個台灣咁大嘅土地割樣咗俾鄰國仲好啦。又唔見你班契弟攞呢件事出來講？

-力
作者: peter236    時間: 2010-9-16 21:02

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-9-16 21:05 編輯
屌，我都廢撚事同你呢三個共癡團繼續講。你個 example 根本就全錯。中國幾時叫日本打理釣魚台？

就算係當 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-16 20:59


Mr coward Lik,
The Taiwanese didn't allow your idol long hair and a few others to board the ship. What are you going to say about this? Do you dare to bash the Taiwanese?

If it was the Hong Kong government that was preventing long hair from boarding the ship, you would have bashed the HK government. Now you coward, dare not bash the ROC Taiwan government that failed to exercise control over Diaoyu Islands for decades.

Your idol long hair was a coward, since he dared not board the ship, after Taiwan officials threatened to cancel his right of entering Taiwan in the future.
作者: peter236    時間: 2010-9-16 21:10

Did you even read my post? After 50+ years worth of inaction, Japan has every right at the internat ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-16 13:00


You moron, you should learn more about international law.
In this case, so long as China raises a protest, any announcement by Japan of ownership of any island, has no legal effect.
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2010-9-16 21:41

看來力仔響呢次事件中﹐終於露出其外奴既原形。
平時猛bash中國﹐就扮話係為中國好。
哈~ 係人係鬼而加一清 ...
soli 發表於 2010-9-17 12:31

soli 兄, 我真係唔敢想像一個中國人, 竟然可以好理直氣壯咁話"釣魚台已經係屬於日本啦! 因為你班共產黨一早已經為左利益之放棄左釣魚台."

對唔住, 我真係接受唔到...

-- 龍的傳人 MJJ
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2010-9-16 21:42

You fool, the closest military airport with J-10 is not Hainan province. Please update your geogra ...
peter236 發表於 2010-9-17 12:46

你估係人都好似係咁對中國咁了解架咩... 唔明就講到人明law. 駛唔駛一開口就"you fool" 呀?
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2010-9-16 21:45

屌，我都廢撚事同你呢三個共癡團繼續講。你個 example 根本就全錯。中國幾時叫日本打理釣魚台？

就算係當年，中共亦只係向錢看，為咗日本借嘅錢同投資，就懶大方咁話唔講釣魚台嘅主權問題。

要講邊個賣國嘅話，唔該你班契弟翻查一吓係我地近代邊位偉大領導人將東北幾個台灣咁大嘅土地割樣咗俾鄰國仲好啦。又唔見你班契弟攞呢件事出來講？

-力
Lik 發表於 2010-9-17 12:59

從字面上睇, "唔講釣魚台嘅主權問題" 同 "將東北幾個台灣咁大嘅土地割樣咗俾鄰國" 既性質係完全唔同!!! 而家係講緊還我釣魚台, 唔係話想問鄰國拎番東北幾個台灣咁大嘅土地".
作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2010-9-16 22:21

人地用軍艦係釣漁台巡邏啵..........我地又可唔可以係個度捉日本仔漁船話佢地入侵中國領海呢？？？
唔係要保衛釣魚台，係要光復。基本上釣魚台係已經失左嫁喇～～～
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-16 22:35

屌，我都廢撚事同你呢三個共癡團繼續講。你個 example 根本就全錯。中國幾時叫日本打理釣魚台？

就算係當 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-16 20:59


You don’t like this example? OK, I give you another example.

If I have a house, but it was 強占 by a 地痞無賴阿力. Because I was young and weak, there was no way at the time that I can fight with you; I had to let you occupy the house for the moment. Can 無賴阿力 you claim the ownership of the house later because you 強占 it for 30 years?

Do you have the gut to answer my question? I am waiting for it.
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-16 22:38

soli 兄, 我真係唔敢想像一個中國人, 竟然可以好理直氣壯咁話"釣魚台已經係屬於日本啦! 因為你班共產黨一 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-9-16 21:41


Lik had already denied he is a Chinese and feels shameful for his Chinese root.
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-16 22:39

人地用軍艦係釣漁台巡邏啵..........我地又可唔可以係個度捉日本仔漁船話佢地入侵中國領海呢？？？
唔係要 ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2010-9-16 22:21


Can you make your position clear? Are you supporting what Lik said -- Daiyu Islands belongs to Japan?
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2010-9-16 22:42

人地用軍艦係釣漁台巡邏啵..........我地又可唔可以係個度捉日本仔漁船話佢地入侵中國領海呢？？？
唔係要 ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2010-9-17 14:21

釣魚台根本就你中國既! 真係唔想用到軍事威脅(因為咁樣益哂美國佬, 同埋對中國好不利), 但又唔知有乜野辦法可以討回釣魚台. 大家有冇可行既計仔?
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2010-9-16 22:44

Lik had already denied he is a Chinese and feels shameful for his Chinese root.
rockypath 發表於 2010-9-17 14:38

除非佢親口講, 否則我係唔會相信一個中國人會有咁既諗法!
中國人, 最重情!
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-16 22:46

除非佢親口講, 否則我係唔會相信一個中國人會有咁既諗法!
中國人, 最重情! ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-9-16 22:44


I guess you missed his posts. Yes, he 親口講 he feels shameful for his Chinese root. You can ask him to verify.
作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2010-9-16 22:51

MJJ,係冇。
呢D事，手瓜唔夠人大，唔敢明撐，可以點？？
唯一就係如果有航母成個戰鬥群去遊下船河，咁就有得傾。
作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2010-9-16 22:58

take side???
釣魚台係中華民國既!～～～
08年聯合號人地日本仔向台灣道歉賠償，
今次就睇下老共迫到D乜野出黎~
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-16 23:00

回復 71# MoiRhapsody

Good! You did not say it belongs to Japan.
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2010-9-16 23:41

MJJ,係冇。
呢D事，手瓜唔夠人大，唔敢明撐，可以點？？
唯一就係如果有航母成個戰鬥群去遊下船河，咁就有 ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2010-9-17 14:51

希望有朝一日中國會有自己既大型航空母艦o係釣魚台附近遊船河!
到時我唔希望見到有中國人話中國以大欺小, 唔係央央大國所為!!!!
作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2010-9-16 23:51

主觀願望同客觀事實係兩回事，
呢一刻，係日本係釣魚台上面行使緊主權。
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2010-9-17 00:04

主觀願望同客觀事實係兩回事，
呢一刻，係日本係釣魚台上面行使緊主權。 ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2010-9-17 15:51

咁你答我, 中國係唔係應該爭取返釣魚台既主權?
請問咁樣有乜野問題?

還我釣魚台! 還我釣魚台! 還我釣魚台!
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-9-17 00:21

咁你答我, 中國係唔係應該爭取返釣魚台既主權?
請問咁樣有乜野問題?

還我釣魚台! 還我釣魚台! 還我釣魚台 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-9-17 00:04

牆頭草，咁我又問吓你，除咗齋up之外，中國又有無做啲乜野來爭取返釣魚台嘅主權呀？

實事就唔Q做，打壓民間保釣嘅事情就做到足！

-力
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2010-9-17 00:29

牆頭草，咁我又問吓你，除咗齋up之外，中國又有無做啲乜野來爭取返釣魚台嘅主權呀？

實事就唔Q做，打壓民間保釣嘅事情就做到足！

-力
Lik 發表於 2010-9-17 16:21

你又知中國冇做野? 駛唔駛做左野要知會聲你呀?
咁你答我, 中國係唔係應該爭取返釣魚台既主權? 請問咁樣有乜野問題?
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-17 00:50

回復 76# Lik


Coward Lik. Dare to answer my question?
作者: peter236    時間: 2010-9-17 00:59

take side???
釣魚台係中華民國既!～～～
08年聯合號人地日本仔向台灣道歉賠償，
今次就睇下老共迫到D乜野 ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2010-9-16 22:58


The Diaoyu Islands are suppose to be part of Taiwan province.
作者: peter236    時間: 2010-9-17 01:00

牆頭草，咁我又問吓你，除咗齋up之外，中國又有無做啲乜野來爭取返釣魚台嘅主權呀？

實事就唔Q做，打壓民 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-17 00:21


You moron, you should learn more about international law.
In this case, so long as China raises a protest, any announcement by Japan of ownership of any island, has no legal effect.
   
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-9-17 01:17

你又知中國冇做野? 駛唔駛做左野要知會聲你呀?
咁你答我, 中國係唔係應該爭取返釣魚台既主權? 請問咁樣有乜野問題?
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-9-17 00:29

做咗都無人知嘅話，咁又有Q用呀？

中國自然係應該爭取返釣魚台嘅主權，但都係果句：只說不做有Q用呀？係就最少都要派返兩隻軍艦過去宣示吓主權啦？中日台三地都話有釣魚台嘅主權，但實際上卻只有日本長期注軍響果處嘅水域巡邏。就算係台灣都有派過軍艦去宣示主權啦？

中共果邊做過啲乜？

-力
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-17 01:30

回復 81# Lik

Coward Lik. Why do you not dare to answer my question? Is it because you know that you will be embarassed big time again if you dare to answer it?
作者: peter236    時間: 2010-9-17 01:47

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-9-17 01:50 編輯
做咗都無人知嘅話，咁又有Q用呀？

中國自然係應該爭取返釣魚台嘅主權，但都係果句：只說不做有Q用呀？係 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-17 01:17

You moron, you should learn more about international law.
In this case, so long as China raises a protest, any announcement by Japan of ownership of any island, has no legal effect.

The Taiwanese didn't allow your idol long hair and a few others to board the ship. What are you going to say about this? Do you dare to bash the Taiwanese?

If it was the Hong Kong government that was preventing long hair from boarding the ship, you would have bashed the HK government. Now you coward, dare not bash the ROC Taiwan government that failed to exercise control over Diaoyu Islands for decades.

Your idol long hair was a coward, since he dared not board the ship, after Taiwan officials threatened to cancel his right of entering Taiwan in the future.
作者: peter236    時間: 2010-9-17 01:49

除非佢親口講, 否則我係唔會相信一個中國人會有咁既諗法!
中國人, 最重情! ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-9-16 22:44


yeah, the coward did say that. So I just asked him to delete his Chinese name.
作者: mukmuk2    時間: 2010-9-17 06:09

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作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-9-17 09:27

看看你們的財物，
汽車， 手提電話， 電視，家庭劇院，
那一件 是 中國 品牌？
旅遊是否使用中國護照？乘坐中國航空公司？
你們是否享有加拿大福利？
二毛黨為中共抹金，妄謂愛國
作者: mukmuk2    時間: 2010-9-17 09:43

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作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-9-17 09:45

回復 87# mukmuk2

In their very own words
Hyprocrites
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-17 09:58

看看你們的財物，
汽車， 手提電話， 電視，家庭劇院，
那一件 是 中國 品牌？
旅遊是否使用中國護照？乘坐 ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-9-17 09:27



看看你的臉，
頭髮，眼睛，皮膚，和你的姓氏，
有哪一樣不是代表你是中國人？
你身上是否流著中國人的血？ 擁有中國人的黃色皮膚？
你的祖先是否來自中國？
如果你不是中國人，請問你是什麼人？

（我知道你一定會大大聲說我是加拿大人。可是每個加拿大人都會為自己的種族感到驕傲，除了你這種可憐蟲。）
作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2010-9-17 10:05

呀...咁點解要黎呢？
呢位同學，唔該你同同學仔嘈交唔好賴生先啦～～影得你好白痴呀～～～
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-17 10:07

呀...咁點解要黎呢？
呢位同學，唔該你同同學仔嘈交唔好賴生先啦～～影得你好白痴呀～～～ ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2010-9-17 10:05


Are you saying you deny you are a Chinese because you come to Canada?
作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2010-9-17 10:12

ain't we all do???
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-17 10:24

ain't we all do???
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2010-9-17 10:12


Confirmation received -- MoiRhapsody denies he is a Chinese even though he has a Chinese name and was born from Chinese parents.
作者: Lik    時間: 2010-9-17 10:28

可是每個加拿大人都會為自己的種族感到驕傲，除了你這種可憐蟲。
rockypath 發表於 2010-9-17 09:58

只問種族咁去憎恨或討厭一啲人，呢樣叫做種族歧視。同樣地，只問種族咁去驕傲咪一樣咁白黐又愚蠢？不過你就正正係呢種人囉！


我從來都無為我嘅華裔血統而咁到羞恥，但我卻為中國大陸裡面啲倒行逆施、毫無公義、醜態盡現嘅人同事而感到最大嘅羞愧。

-力
作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2010-9-17 10:30


remember what you took for the oath.
I don't have chinese name on my passport, DL, or in my any information~~
opsss sir, i have a scottish middle name too~~
yet i am a Canadian Chinese~~not a Chinese Chinese, Play it smart. Moron.
作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-17 10:31

回復 94# Lik

Coward Lik. You still don't have the gut to answer my question?

Stand up like a man for what you said.

I am still waiting for you answer.

Don't be a coward.
作者: mukmuk2    時間: 2010-9-17 10:32

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作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-17 10:34

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2010-9-17 10:41 編輯
so everyone has different view of this matter is not Chinese? MoiRhapsody, Lik

everyone does not  ...
mukmuk2 發表於 2010-9-17 10:32


It is themselves who confirm they deny or feel shameful for their Chinese root.

I just repeat what they said. Didn't I?

I don't know what they are thinking of themselves.  I am a Canadian and I am also pround of my Chinese root.


P.S. You can look up what Lik said in his own words - he clearly said he feels shameful for his Chinese root (and more than one time).
作者: mukmuk2    時間: 2010-9-17 10:41

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作者: rockypath    時間: 2010-9-17 10:43

He said he iss not feel ashamed for His Chinese Root.
mukmuk2 發表於 2010-9-17 10:41


He tries to deny what he said. I guess it is because now he feels too much pressure.

He clearly said he feels shameful for his Chinese root in other previous threads. I guess you had missed those posts.



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