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作者: fy789 時間: 2010-9-17 13:27 標題: 釣魚島：日本的大陰謀與生死博弈

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作者: fy789 時間: 2010-9-17 13:27

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作者: fy789 時間: 2010-9-17 13:28

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作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-9-17 13:38

Agreed

作者: CWong 時間: 2010-9-17 14:11

本帖最後由 CWong 於 2010-9-17 14:30 編輯

可惜老毛早已身故，不然，中国現時必定硬起耒！

嗰班胡X塗嘅大官，淨係识得坐喺个官俯大魚大肉过日子，真係要佢哋鎗炮去打仗？仲唔嗱嗱淋缩番个头入狗竇咩，当年清朝个个官都只係识得中饱私囊，对洋鬼子只係识得割地今賠款，步步退让，今日佢哋同清朝嗰啲肚滿腸肥嘅官有乜分別？

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-9-17 14:23

回復 5# CWong

His grandson can head the army, he is a general now

作者: CWong 時間: 2010-9-17 14:35

不能起头的將軍有屁用！

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-9-17 14:38

回復 7# CWong

How do you know?

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2010-9-17 14:47

回復 6# somewhereintime

He's not a navy general wow...

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-9-17 14:48

回復 9# lo_pak

They can make him an Admiral, just by decree

作者: CWong 時間: 2010-9-17 14:53

起到头就即刻用炮直搗龍宮創一番大业啦，仲咁胡X塗咩！

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2010-9-17 15:02

回復 10# somewhereintime

Have you even seen one of those promotion switching between army and navy??

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-9-17 15:09

回復 12# lo_pak

In a country with proper system, never.
But in the Great China, everything is possible.
Who would have dreamed that the Electric Power
Supply in China to be monopolized and controlled by
a certain Miss Li, just because she is the daughter of
the then Premier Li Pang

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-9-17 15:47

回復 3# fy789

Please, all the young LYk, please read the article carefully at least once

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-9-17 17:00

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2010-9-17 17:02 編輯

回復 14# somewhereintime

You still have not answered my question - whether you support what Lik said - Daiyu Islands belongs to Japan.

Why did you keep running away from me instead of making a straight and direct answer? What do you want to hide?

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-9-17 17:03

本帖最後由 somewhereintime 於 2010-9-17 17:06 編輯

回復 15# rockypath

Since this is a legit question other than personal attack, I will reply
loud and clear

DiaoyuTai is our land, we inherited from our forefathers,
it is up to us, average Chinese, from China or Oversea ,not just the government
to stick up and speak up, spread the word to the world.
I have been doing it since 1972 in Hong Kong

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-9-17 17:10

回復 16# somewhereintime

Good to hear that you at least did not say Diaoyu Islands belongs to Japan.

Just wondering why you did not answer it loudly and directly after I kept questioning you so many times until this time.

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-9-17 17:14

回復 17# rockypath

Sorry I do not read all the posts,
but I'm old and mature enough to tell right from wrong.
MY MINDSET ON SOVERIGN NEVER CHANGE since 70's.
I rallied against the Soviet invading JianBao Island in 1971 too

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-9-17 17:23

回復 18# somewhereintime

I believe you have 老人癡呆 instead of skipping the posts. I asked the question and you replied nonsense. That is the reason I kept going after you and want to find out what you want to hide.

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-9-17 17:39

Here it comes again, that's the reason I skip some postings;
I work with the public, everyone can meet and talk with me,
in person or virtually. There is nothing I need to hide.

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-9-17 18:22

回復 20# somewhereintime

Here you come again.

I was wondering why you did not answer my question directly when I asked whether you agree Diaoyu Islands belongs to Japan as what Lik said. You ignored the question and talked about something else which was not related to what I asked you.

Do I have to repeat myself again?

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-9-17 18:29

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作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-9-17 18:29

DiaoyuTai is our land, we inherited from our forefathers,
it is up to us, average Chinese, from China or Oversea ,not just the government
to stick up and speak up, spread the word to the world.
I have been doing it since 1972 in Hong Kong

I thought I'm old, but something never change.
It is a simple statement elementary student can understand.
Since it has been part of Chinese territories for 500 years, why it would belong to
the Japs? and why I would agree with the Japs?

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-9-17 18:32

why I would agree with the Japs?...
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-9-17 18:29

Did I ask whether you agree with Japs? I asked you whether you agree with what Lik said.

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-9-17 18:33

even if he thinks it belongs to China or Japan, there is nothing you nor he can do anything about ...
mukmuk2 發表於 2010-9-17 18:29

At least we can talk about it.

作者: soli 時間: 2010-9-17 18:44

中國國力日強﹐日本要趁自己還有海軍優勢﹐而美國這後盾仍然有力既時候﹐解決釣魚台爭議﹐擴張勢力﹐是可以理解的。

日本扣押中國漁船並起訴船長﹐的而且確是一場賭博﹐但日本走這一步還算是十分謹慎。
在日本曾有議員提議在釣魚台駐軍﹐但日本是不敢的﹐因為這是軍事行動﹐涉及到軍隊﹐會讓國際輿論認為是日本挑起事端。

在釣魚台海域以執法機關既保安艦拘捕中國漁船﹐再用日本法律定罪來實現主權﹐應該算是最好既選擇。
大陸和臺灣既回應亦是派執法船隻去釣魚台海域執法﹐只可惜中台也沒能力將日本船隻找來審。

因為各方也不願先將事件提升都軍事層面﹐所以這次日本算是勝了一仗。
若對中國船長的判罪能落實執行﹐則能加強日本爭奪釣魚台既理據。

對大陸而言﹐釣魚台問題最好就能夠拖到其實力能不戰而屈日本之兵既時候﹐再以外交解決。
眾所周知﹐以中國國力上升既氣勢﹐若沒突發事件(例如共產黨倒台﹑西藏新疆獨立)﹐驅趕日本艦隻﹐收回釣魚台是指日可待既(最多十年)。
現在最逼切既問題﹐應該是如何阻止日本將中國船長定罪﹐但這要看大陸高層既外交手腕了。

雖然我都頗仇日﹐但其實理性D講﹐中日如果能夠和解﹐結成聯盟﹐將會對西方各國帶來極大震撼。
當然前提是中國要變得強大﹐不過若中日民間長期互相仇視﹐只會讓日本繼續親美﹐這正中美國下懷。

1971年﹐美國將琉球群島跟釣魚台一併交予日本﹐其背後目的不是很明顯嗎?

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-9-17 19:00

I speak for myself, and only for myself,
I do not want to drag anyone to my side,
nor blindly follow anyone in that matter.
I think I have more backbone than the CCP in power,
like Putin said, "Hit our Fishing Boats if you Dare", that is leadership
we need to learn.

作者: fm9610 時間: 2010-9-17 19:01

回復 26# soli

What China need now is 袁祟煥: 掉他媽! 頂硬上!

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-9-17 19:02

回復 soli

What China need now is 袁祟煥: 掉他媽! 頂硬上!
fm9610 發表於 2010-9-17 19:01

Alternately, as Deng said, we can leave it to our grandchildren

作者: soli 時間: 2010-9-19 18:10

回復 soli

What China need now is 袁祟煥: 掉他媽! 頂硬上!
fm9610 發表於 2010-9-17 19:01

袁祟煥都唔錯﹐表面主戰﹐暗地主和﹐大搞建設。
步步為營既作風好適合現在既大陸。

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-9-19 18:39

Did I ask whether you agree with Japs? I asked you whether you agree with what Lik said.
rockypath 發表於 2010-9-18 10:32

唔駛借人把口而去攻擊自己既敵人既...

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-9-19 18:41

1971年﹐美國將琉球群島跟釣魚台一併交予日本﹐其背後目的不是很明顯嗎?
soli 發表於 2010-9-18 10:44

冇錯! 這是十分明顯的!
還我釣魚台! 還我釣魚台! 還我釣魚台!

作者: soli 時間: 2010-9-19 18:48

冇錯! 這是十分明顯的!
還我釣魚台! 還我釣魚台! 還我釣魚台!
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-9-19 18:41

美國既目的就係要中日永遠都水火不容﹐就好似印度同巴基斯坦o甘。
點樣可以響中日相方都不損尊嚴下解決釣魚台問題﹐呢個好考中日領導人既智慧。

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-9-19 19:40

美國既目的就係要中日永遠都水火不容﹐就好似印度同巴基斯坦o甘。
點樣可以響中日相方都不損尊嚴下解決釣 ...
soli 發表於 2010-9-20 10:48

好難不損尊嚴下解決釣魚台問題... 次次都係大陸尊嚴受損, 跟住共產黨就走去河蟹一輪, 就當冇事發生過, 等下年大家再黎過...

作者: fm9610 時間: 2010-9-19 21:30

好難不損尊嚴下解決釣魚台問題... 次次都係大陸尊嚴受損, 跟住共產黨就走去河蟹一輪, 就當冇事發生過, 等 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-9-19 19:40

Looking back at what the 共產黨 has done so far, you should know it is very good at surprises:

1. Korean war, it surprised the US/UN by entering the war and 'almost' kicked the US/UN into the sea.

2. India War, it surprised the Indian troop in the himalaya area and destroyed its army and killed its general. Since then, India always view China as an enemy

3. Vietnam War, it surprised South Vietnam by sinking a battle ship and won back the Spratley island(Nam Sha).

4. North Vietnam, it sursprised the North Vietnam and fought a punishing war after the two turned enemies.

5. US spy plane, US spy plane was brought down after a China jet was accidentally rammed.

Chinese army can and will fight. These surprises may not happen again, but who knows. Only history can tell.

作者: fm9610 時間: 2010-9-19 21:33

袁祟煥都唔錯﹐表面主戰﹐暗地主和﹐大搞建設。
步步為營既作風好適合現在既大陸。 ...
soli 發表於 2010-9-19 18:10

I like his slogan better, it was very Cantonese and very to the point!

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-9-19 22:38

Looking back at what the 共產黨 has done so far, you should know it is very good at surprises:

1. ...
fm9610 發表於 2010-9-20 13:30

我都知有機會會有surprise, 所以我o係第二個thread 問人"日本有冇可以射到去香港既導彈"啦...

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