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作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-22 09:30 標題: 保釣船被禁駛離香港

http://inews.mingpao.com/htm/inews/20100922/gb31950c.htm

保釣船被禁駛離香港 (19:50)

本港保釣行動委員會的漁船由長洲碼頭出發，準備前往釣魚島海域「捕魚」，但在橫瀾島附近被水警截停。

保釣行動委員會稱，昨日收到海事處警告信，表示有理由相信他們的漁船出海，並非進行捕魚及將會載客，觸犯規例。海事處要求船主不可以將船駛離香港水域。

保釣漁船不理海事處禁令，下午出發，海事處和水警的船隻隨即尾隨。及至傍晚六時許，漁船駛至橫瀾島附近海域，有數名警員登上漁船，禁止繼續航行，要求船主出示有效證件。

保釣委員會主席陳妙德之前表示，漁船是出海捕魚，船上的人均領有牌照，不是乘客，不過他估計能成功出海機會只有一半。

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-22 09:33

有啲戇車仔把口就成日嗌生晒話要「還我釣魚台」，但唔該呢啲人擘大眼睇清楚自己個政府響到做緊啲乜野。

先借鼠患來留難保釣人士，跟住依家咪又係政治打壓？

正不該！

-力

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-9-22 09:42

有啲戇車仔把口就成日嗌生晒話要「還我釣魚台」，但唔該呢啲人擘大眼睇清楚自己個政府響到做緊啲乜野。

先 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-22 09:33

No matter what the government had done. It does not give you any reason to say 釣魚台 belongs to your Japanese master.

Get lost.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-22 09:52

LOL~

If the matter is taken to international courts, who do you think is gonna win? Based on the realities of how Japan has been petrolling the Diaoyu Island seas and how China has put forth zero action other than shooting their mouths off, I say Japan has a significantly higher chance of winning the case at the international courts.

And you still cannot deny that the SAR government is 超級賤, which is what I have been saying all along.

-Lik

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-9-22 09:55

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作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-9-22 10:24

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2010-9-22 10:26 編輯

you are not focusing the article itself but it's pointing finger at lik. "No matter what the gove ...
mukmuk2 發表於 2010-9-22 09:55

If it was said by someone else, I have no problem with that. From the mouth of 漢奸走狗力, I certainly will have a doubt of his intention.

Why don't you "encourage" him to stand up like a "man" to answer my questions that I asked him regarding to 釣魚台和北方四島？

"what if, Hong Kong government said the island belongs to the Japs, are you going to point finger at Lik still?"

Ask me this question when the HK government actually said so. Don't you feel silly to ask a quesiton like this?

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-9-22 10:32

LOL~

If the matter is taken to international courts, who do you think is gonna win? Based on the re ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-22 09:52

Just answer my quesiton - "will you tell your Japanese master that 北方四島屬於俄羅斯?"

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-22 10:48

我對北方四島／南千島群島嘅認識甚為有限，所以無打算作出任何評論。但對於釣魚台嘅情況，我卻有一定嘅研究，而從實際情況來講，釣魚台控海權一直落響日本手裡面，而中國大陸對於釣魚台嘅主權卻只係得把口。

而從區區閣下響 forum嘅言論之中，我亦肯定你係一位只識得擦阿爺鞋，又毫無獨立思考能力嘅走狗PK。

-力

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-9-22 10:56

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-9-22 10:57 編輯

You moron Lik~~

The Taiwanese didn't allow your idol long hair and a few others to board the ship. What are you going to say about this? Do you dare to bash the Taiwanese?

If it was the Hong Kong government that was preventing long hair from boarding the ship, you would have bashed the HK government. Now you coward, dare not bash the ROC Taiwan government that failed to exercise control over Diaoyu Islands for decades.

Your idol long hair was a coward, since he dared not board the ship, after Taiwan officials threatened to cancel his right of entering Taiwan in the future.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-22 11:02

Did I not criticize Taiwan for their intervention of the activists?

I remember quite clearly that I have criticized both PRC and ROC for not doing more in the fight and preservation efforts of the Diaoyu Islands.

At any rate, despite the intervention Taiwan had, they still allowed their own citizens to go out and fish in the Diaoyu Island seas, correct? Is that what the PK HK SAR government did? And is that what PRC did as well?

-Lik

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-22 11:04

Here is something you should read, Moron~ This is what your precious and righteous PRC government is doing:

http://hk.news.yahoo.com/article/100920/4/kbl6.html

京保釣骨幹遭監控難出門
(明報)2010年9月21日星期二 05:05

【明報專訊】中國船長在日本羈押期再遭延長10天。昨日，北京日本大使館門外仍戒備森嚴，只有個別民眾前往示威，有人打出「還我船長」橫額，但幾分鐘內便遭公安驅離。

日駐京使館嚴防示威被驅離

位於日壇路的日本使館周圍，昨日仍部署大批警力，衛星車、防暴車、警用指揮車等近百輛。距離使館南面不足50米的秀水北街，不足100米的小路，被18輛警車堵塞，令經過車輛，被迫調頭轉行。

公安連日高壓，致使大批民間保釣活躍人士不敢出門活動。上周六（9•18當天），中國保釣聯合會骨幹成員多未參加示威活動，甚至有骨幹離京避嫌。昨日，有剛被安全部門「請喝茶」的保釣人士告訴記者，「我們都被控制，出門都成問題。保釣？唉……一言難盡！」

與此同時，二戰赴日勞工對日索賠多年無果後，再度上路。一直代理勞工官司的北京方元律師所律師康健表示，未來兩年內，將組織受害勞工、勞工遺屬、律師、學者，到全國巡迴演講。「教育國民，銘記歷史。」她說：「日方的和解方式，是俯視式施捨，侮辱味道太濃，受害人均難釋懷」。

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-9-22 11:12

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-9-22 11:15 編輯

Did I not criticize Taiwan for their intervention of the activists?

I remember quite clearly that I ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-22 11:02

wow, you stupid moron~~

If the PRC did not allow Chinese fishermen to fish at Diaoyu Islands, like you claimed, then why were the Chinese ships and the Chinese fishermen detained by the perverted Japanese? Clearly, the Chinese were fishing there.

Didn't you see the pictures of Chinese fishing patrol ships chasing around with the Japanese patrol ships?

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-22 11:20

wow, you stupid moron~~

If the PRC did not allow Chinese fishermen to fish at Diaoyu Islands, like you claimed, then why were the Chinese ships and the Chinese fishermen detained by the perverted Japanese?
peter236 發表於 2010-9-22 11:12

LOL~

Is PRC allowing anyone to go to the Diaoyu Islands waters now? At least Taiwan is still allowing their own citizens to do that.

Now read the above news article and tell me what the PRC is doing. In case you can't decipher which is the important part, I have conveniently highlighted them in red for you.

-Lik

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-9-22 12:07

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作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-22 12:55

detailed version here:

http://news.mingpao.com/20100923/gaa1.htm

保釣船甫出海遭截回
7水警輪跟隨快艇截停檢查

【明報專訊】總理溫家寶嚴詞敦促日方立即放人之際，香港港保釣行動委員會昨日派出「釣魚台二號」前往釣魚島宣示主權。不過，海事處指船隻「違反登記捕魚及不得載客的規定」，禁止他們離開香港水域。「釣魚台二號」不理禁令堅持出發，至傍晚駛到橫瀾島海域、近狗髀洲附近被截停，雙方僵持近5小時後，「釣魚台二號」被迫折返。

自保釣委員會透露有意前往釣魚島後，政府部門特別關注「釣魚台二號」動向，上周五，食環署以「有老鼠」為由登船檢查。至周日，「釣魚台二號」在將軍澳海域捕魚時，海事處人員上船安全檢查，指控船上人員未持有合資格牌照；周二更發出禁令，禁止他們駛出香港水域。

「閱報得悉」海事處﹕不得載客

海事處發言人解釋，「釣魚台二號」屬第三類船隻，是不得載客、只能純作捕魚用途，但處方從報章上得悉，「釣魚台二號」有意前往釣魚島宣示主權，處方有理由相信他們不是捕魚，遂引用《商船（本地船隻）條例》賦予權力，禁止駛離香港水域。

保釣委員會未理會禁令，昨早如常出海闖關。主席陳妙德強調「釣魚台二號」沒有載客，全部船員都是出海打魚，他更揶揄特區政府，「自己船去自己的地方都不可以，我感覺到政府好軟弱」。

「釣魚台二號」一行7人，包括保釣成員兼船主羅就、民間電台成員楊匡及潘達強，後兩人為此更考取船主及大偈牌照，加上受聘上船的4名水手，委員會表示船員資格及數目都符合法例要求。

一行7人昨午1時先在長洲交代詳情後出發，羅就對鏡頭高呼「我們正式出海捕魚啦，我們的船從此做回正行，撈正行去捕魚」。「釣魚台二號」出發後，一直有水警輪及海事處船隻在旁監視，但未有干預。

筲箕灣「表演」捕魚一小時

船隻由長洲出發，經中環對開海面，下午4點左右到達筲箕灣避風塘補給，成員更即席「表演」捕魚，把多個直徑約一米的鐵籠拋入海及撒魚網。其間，水警輪一直在遠處觀望，有警員拿出攝錄機拍攝過程。

「捕魚」近一小時後，「釣魚台二號」約在下午5時半向東面海域駛去，7艘水警輪及1艘海事處船隻緊緊跟隨。待「釣魚台二號」甫駛離香港水域，大約6時半，兩艘水警快艇加速上前截停船隻，以「協助海事處調查」為由上船檢查。由於大批傳媒租船跟隨採訪，同樣駛離香港水域，水警遂勸諭傳媒折返。

其後水警放行，一行人晚上到蒲台島讓船員用膳。至晚上8時許，水警再度上船檢查。折騰兩小時後於晚上10點半，把船押回西灣河水警基地，抵已是深夜11時許，結束為時近10小時的「保釣之旅」。

指執法欠根據或訴諸法律

保釣委員會主席陳妙德批評水警執法欠缺法律根據，「我們犯了什麼事，他們都說不出來，真是豈有此理！政府說我們想去釣魚台，但想想就是犯法嗎？真是非常可悲！」他表示，委員會稍後會諮詢律師意見，決定是否就政府執法作出法律行動。

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-22 12:56

http://news.mingpao.com/20100923/gaa2.htm

捕魚亦有表達自由海事處阻撓難信服

【明報專訊】海事處阻撓「釣魚台二號」出海，引用的是本港法例第548章《商船（本地船隻）》64條（1）（a），訂明「（海事）處長有權拒絕或允許本地船隻進入或離開香港水域」。

不過，立法會議員兼資深大律師湯家驊認為，海事處做法難以令人信服，他認為，只要「釣魚台二號」並非從事與捕魚違背的事，海事處便無權阻止。

湯家驊﹕捕魚期間觀光無權執法

湯家驊舉例說：「如果是一艘由尖沙嘴出發的渡輪，其間有人在船上示威，當局是無法阻止的，因為有表達自由的權利。」他認為，只要證明「釣魚台二號」是從事捕魚，符合安全規格，「不是載貨或載一百幾十人」，其間若有人作出任何與捕魚不相違背的事，海事處亦無權阻止。

至於海事處聲稱是從傳媒報道知悉「釣魚台二號」目的並非是捕魚，湯家驊亦認為難以令人信服，「船隻可於捕魚期間駛往釣魚島觀光一下，海事處亦無權執法，因為船隻已離開港境」。

何俊仁﹕警方稱助海事處執法

昨晚到西灣河水警基地協助羅就處理此事的民主黨主席何俊仁稱，警方向他表示，警隊只是協助海事處執法，而後者只要求船隻不要離開香港水域，故此並沒有「扣押」該船。何俊仁說，政府處理此事的手法很離譜，故已有一個律師團隊研究應向政府採取什麼行動。

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-22 12:58

http://news.mingpao.com/20100923/gag1.htm

保釣會指政治打壓擬提覆核

【明報專訊】保釣行動委員會成員曾健成批評，政府禁止「釣魚台二號」前赴釣魚島是政治打壓，不單會破壞一國兩制，亦是箝制港人出入境自由。他指出，釣魚台二號由船上設施、船員、船家、船東等範疇，一律符合海事處的「出海捕魚條件」，但昨日亦多次受到當局攔截，委員會不排除申請司法覆核，以示對當局執法無憑無據不滿。

批無視一國兩制打擊出入境自由

「阿牛」曾健成又質疑，警方是因為中央禁令，才出手禁止釣魚台二號到釣魚島「捕魚」，認為此舉是無視一國兩制，執法獨立權蕩然無存。他又指保釣行動委員會是「合法出海捕魚」，但遭警方無理攔截，是嚴重打擊港人出入境自由。

劉銳紹﹕涉敏感問題中港立場一致

時事評論員劉銳紹則認為，事件顯示港府在涉及外交政策和敏感的政治問題時，務必與中央立場一致，一國兩制並不能發揮應有的作用，「特區政府會自我收斂，對一國兩制的堅持會大打折扣」。但他認為，由於是次事件非常特殊，香港人日常的出入境亦沒有問題，故不可以斷定「禁止保釣船出海」便影響港人出入境自由。

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-22 14:27

中港台兩岸三地睇吓邊個做咗啲乜野？

[youtube]kBlz_4JucXE[/youtube]

兩岸三地當中，以特衰政府最無恥。大陸雖然都係擺明賤居多架㗎喇，但係起碼都有做野來向日本施壓。而台灣就係兩岸三地當中最有種、最會做實事嘅。

-力

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-9-22 16:40

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-9-22 16:44 編輯

when you said Chinese fishermen, is that China fishermen or Taiwan fisherman?
mukmuk2 發表於 2010-9-22 12:07

I was talking about the fishermen from mainland China who were detained by the Japanese. Clearly, they were fishing near Diaoyu Islands.

Also, if Taiwan is still allowing their fishermen to fish near Diaoyu Islands, how come they were not detained by the Japanese? Clearly, the Taiwanese are not fishing anywhere near Diaoyu Islands.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-9-22 16:43

LOL~

Is PRC allowing anyone to go to the Diaoyu Islands waters now? At least Taiwan is still allow ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-22 11:20

If Taiwan is still allowing their fishermen to fish near Diaoyu Islands, how come they were not detained by the Japanese? Clearly, the Taiwanese are not fishing anywhere near Diaoyu Islands.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-22 17:33

呵呵呵～原來我地嘅 moron 仔唔只係死蠢，仲直情係盲嘅。上面咁大個 post，咁大條 video clip 都睇唔見台灣果邊隻船點樣俾日本圍。人地台灣果邊派軍艦過去護航呀！唔該你大陸都學吓野啦～

-力

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-9-22 18:07

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作者: peter236 時間: 2010-9-22 19:31

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-9-22 19:34 編輯

呵呵呵～原來我地嘅 moron 仔唔只係死蠢，仲直情係盲嘅。上面咁大個 post，咁大條 video clip 都睇唔見台灣果邊隻船點樣俾日本圍。人地台灣果邊派軍艦過去護航呀！唔該你大陸都學吓野啦～
Lik 發表於 2010-9-22 17:33

nah, you moron, I am not from mainland China at all.

Also, how come ROC Taiwan did send the navy to land on Diaoyu Islands? How come ROC Taiwan is not demanding the release of the fishermen who was captured in ROC Taiwan territory?

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-9-22 19:33

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作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-9-22 20:43

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2010-9-22 20:45 編輯

我對北方四島／南千島群島嘅認識甚為有限，所以無打算作出任何評論。但對於釣魚台嘅情況，我卻有一定嘅研究 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-22 10:48

真是一個厚顏無恥的賣“國”漢奸走狗。

對你來說，不知道歷史和事實不重要，最緊要是一定要跟緊自己的主人。

Examining the situation of 北方四島 using the same reasons or criteria which you used to claim 釣魚台 belongs to Japan. All of those criteria will support 俄羅斯 ownership of 北方四島.

Does your Japan master admit 北方四島 belonging to 俄羅斯? NO! So how would your Japan master and you can claims the ownership of 釣魚台?

Peter had repetitively telling you that as long as China raising objection to the ownership claimed by Japan. There is no ground for Japan automatically claims the ownership of the 釣魚台 with the stupid reasons you posted under the International Law.

Educate yourself before opening your shxt mouth. Dick head.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-22 21:17

呵呵呵～乜原來閣下能知世界事，係飽讀屎書...啊唔係，係史書嘅愚生來㗎？咁我又真係失敬晒喎？

好一句「不知道歷史和事實不重要，最緊要是一定要跟緊自己的主人」，因為你自己就正正係做緊呢樣野，而我地呢處每一個人都知道邊個係你嘅主子。

仲有，我想同你講，你係想玩爆粗嘅話，小弟我無任歡迎！不過到時我就唔係淨係講 "dick head"同不該咁簡單㗎啦～

-力

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-9-22 22:12

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2010-9-22 22:32 編輯

回復 26# Lik

So, you don't have the gut to stand up for what you said and face me?

What a coward you are. Did your Japan master cut off your xxxx and you cannot stand up like a man?

I guess you received the knowledge of history and world afair from your Japan master and Apple Daily. No wonder you feel no shame of selling off your "country" and your ancestors.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-22 23:57

LOL~

It's your same usual bs again, and they are almost identical -- word for word. Can't you be a little more creative at least to keep me entertained?

-Lik

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-9-23 00:38

有啲戇車仔把口就成日嗌生晒話要「還我釣魚台」，但唔該呢啲人擘大眼睇清楚自己個政府響到做緊啲乜野。

先 ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-23 01:33

政府做乜野都唔會影響到我既立場! 唔駛有啲不該仔去個post 去提醒我.
d 人以為派隻船仔既釣魚台就可以達到目的? (MJJ 冷笑中) 比佢地負碌去到, 最多比你插支旗, 駛唔駛好似登陸月球留個腳印? 係唔係成功左釣魚台就屬於自己?

香港政府都係諗盡辦法去保護市民既安全, 我睇唔到有錯. 人要去死, 你去左人死, 原來做好心會比人丙, 呢d 叫做好人當賊扮.

還我釣魚台! 還我釣魚台! 還我釣魚台!

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-9-23 00:40

LOL~

If the matter is taken to international courts, who do you think is gonna win? Based on the re ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-23 01:52

所以我覺得中國根本冇諗過要用到國際法庭呢招去付回釣魚台主.
一定有其他更方, 更有效既方法既.

作者: rockypath 時間: 2010-9-23 00:41

回復 28# Lik

Do you dare to tell your Japan master that 北方四島 belong to 俄羅斯？ As usual, you only dare to hide your "Lik head" in the sand.

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-9-23 00:47

兩岸三地當中，以特衰政府最無恥。大陸雖然都係擺明賤居多架㗎喇，但係起碼都有做野來向日本施壓。而台灣就係兩岸三地當中最有種、最會做實事嘅。
Lik 發表於 2010-9-23 06:27

可笑... 真可笑... 呢d 野都可以咁排名.
將香港同中國/台灣比較? 香港都幾威架wor... 係唔係諗住爭取釣魚台立入香港版圖?...

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2010-9-23 00:48

Also, if Taiwan is still allowing their fishermen to fish near Diaoyu Islands, how come they were not detained by the Japanese? Clearly, the Taiwanese are not fishing anywhere near Diaoyu Islands.
peter236 發表於 2010-9-23 08:40

距離近定遠係好主觀, 有人會覺得香港同溫哥華好近...

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-9-23 01:07

本帖最後由 samsung 於 2010-9-23 01:08 編輯

中港台兩岸三地睇吓邊個做咗啲乜野？

兩岸三地當中，以特衰政府最無恥。大陸雖然都係擺明賤居多架㗎喇， ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-22 14:27

lik you believe in 新唐人電視﹖you are a 100% moron!!! don't you know who is behind 新唐人電視? it's 法輪功 ar! somebody hates China to death!!! same owner as 新紀元日報啊, idiot!!! quote something more reliable la... fa lun kung, hahahahaha....

no wonder everyone here called you moron, you are a complete moron... hi mr. moron!!!!

作者: samsung 時間: 2010-9-23 01:12

可笑... 真可笑... 呢d 野都可以咁排名.
將香港同中國/台灣比較? 香港都幾威架wor... 係唔係諗住爭取釣魚 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-9-23 00:47

that's why when I read more of lik's word, he looks more like those richmond c9 to me

(仲要係亂碴車那些)

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-23 10:35

政府做乜野都唔會影響到我既立場! 唔駛有啲不該仔去個post 去提醒我.
d 人以為派隻船仔既釣魚台就可以達到目的? (MJJ 冷笑中) 比佢地負碌去到, 最多比你插支旗, 駛唔駛好似登陸月球留個腳印? 係唔係成功左釣魚台就屬於自己?

香港政府都係諗盡辦法去保護市民既安全, 我睇唔到有錯. 人要去死, 你去左人死, 原來做好心會比人丙, 呢d 叫做好人當賊扮.
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-9-23 00:38

乜牆頭草都會有立場嘅咩？

事實擺在眼前。特衰政府連番嘅政治打壓明顯到咁你呢個死蠢都要唔信。成隻青蛙已經響烹溫水裡面就來煮到熟喇，你都仲係要話無事、無事，咁我仲可以講咩？你要去死、去食屎嘅話，我唔同阻住你咩？

香港政府都係諗盡辦法去保護市民既安全？咁不如一出世就個個BB都放入個保護罩裡面好唔好？明明係河蟹行動你都要話無，除咗死蠢之外我仲可以講咩？

香港人都係折墮㗎喇～啲野唔打到埋身，唔直接影響到自己都唔會出聲。人地講你又唔信，到時就抵能你死啦～

-力

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-23 10:37

所以我覺得中國根本冇諗過要用到國際法庭呢招去付回釣魚台主.
一定有其他更方, 更有效既方法既.mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-9-23 00:40

中國唔敢想國際法庭就係因為佢驚輸！

-力

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-23 10:41

lik you believe in 新唐人電視﹖you are a 100% moron!!! don't you know who is behind 新唐人電視? it's 法輪功 ar! somebody hates China to death!!! same owner as 新紀元日報啊, idiot!!! quote something more reliable la... fa lun kung, hahahahaha....

no wonder everyone here called you moron, you are a complete moron... hi mr. moron!!!!samsung 發表於 2010-9-23 01:07

新唐人電視我並唔相信，但接受訪問同發言嘅又是否程翔本人？成段說話無乜點剪過，請問咁又有乜野問題呢？而程翔所講嘅又又乜野錯漏？
另外兩段新聞片一段係 now，而另一段我就唔記得咗係邊個台嘅。

你呢啲因人廢言嘅廢柴先至係 moron 中嘅 moron 啦～

-力

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-9-23 10:50

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作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-23 11:22

呢條三星仔不瀏都係賤人來㗎啦，不過佢係陰陰濕濕果隻多啲，而唔係三傻（P，S，R）果隻玩法囉。

-力

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