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作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-22 12:36 標題: TransLink considers aerial gondola to SFU

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TransLink considers aerial gondola to SFU
By Kelly Sinoski, Vancouver Sun September 22, 2010 1:07 PM

METRO VANCOUVER - TransLink is considering a proposal for an aerial gondola to Simon Fraser University, saying such a move would free up buses, save costs and potentially whisk 3,000 people an hour up the mountain.

The transit authority has issued a request for proposals for the gondola, which has been pitched by the SFU Community Trust.

TransLink spokesman Ken Hardie said the transit authority decided to consider the proposal based on the success of Whistler's Peak 2 Peak gondola.

It's still early stages, he said, but a proposed gondola would likely run from Production Way Station on the Millennium Line to SFU, making the trip in just eight minutes — four to six minutes less than a typical bus ride up the mountain. Hardie said a gondola would also be more reliable because it wouldn't be affected by snow and rain, which can clog up the roads and tie up buses.

Such a move would also free up buses for other areas of the region, Hardie said. If TransLink were to move 3,000 people up the mountain now, he said, it would need about 25 to 30 buses.

"This could be a green alternative," he said. "What we really need to do is have a very serious look at the concept to see if there is a business plan for it."

Hardie had no specifics on the cost or alignment of such a proposal, saying that would come out in the RFPs, which are expected to come back by March next year.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-22 12:39

Could this possibly be one of the rare times when Translink comes up with a good idea? Mind you, for this to be viable, there are still lots of associated details that need to fall into place, namely rates and fares (just treat it as part of the normal bus-Skytrain fare program instead of something separate like the SeaBus) and emergency response teams.

-Lik

作者: myversa 時間: 2010-9-22 13:37

Maybe they should extend the skytrain to more subburn area such as maple ridge or mission.

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2010-9-22 14:37

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2010-9-22 14:48 編輯

回復 3# myversa

Mission, no way, it does not belong to GVRD...

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As far as I know, even the Evergreen line is completed, Translink has no plan to extend the skytrain passed Coquitlam. Westcoast Express is doing a decent job connecting the eastern areas to the suburban terminal at Coquitlam.

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2010-9-22 14:46

回復 2# Lik

If the skytrain extension to UBC is on agenda, I can't see why gondola to SFU would be neglected.

作者: Guy 時間: 2010-9-23 02:14

gondola is good.. but better not too high from the ground.. becuz SFU mountain is windy~

staying below the treeline is the best...

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2010-9-23 11:37

Yes, when I heard it on News 1130 last night, that wow. 1 in a millenia rare event that Translink comes up with a good idea!

I'm sure the dumb executives and board will shoot it down in no time.... Translink and doing a good thing? No possible, com'on~ It's all wishful thinking, LOL.

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2010-9-23 22:06

本帖最後由 pkphilip 於 2010-9-23 22:08 編輯

Do you think this is just another scheme to ask for price increase to offset the cost for building this in the future? Or is this just another way for them to use up the excess cash for another "investment"?

I am just sick and tired of these people keep messing around with our money by building this infrastructure and that. The excuse is always good for everyone, but I bet that the tranlink board would probably pocket quite some amount (either internally or externally)

Without any solid figures (they can't even produce it at the moment), I can't say if this is good or not. Give me a ROI, and I will consider it... I was quite surprised that the CanadaLine was actually making some money ahead of schedule.

How many people are using the transit system up and down of SFU? They claim the new system could accomodate 3000 people an hour, are there that much traffic?

Philip

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2010-9-23 22:17

回復 8# pkphilip

3000 at peak, possible...

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-23 22:28

Philip,

I think you might be underestimating public transit's popularity at SFU (and for that matter, at the universities, and soon at the local colleges). Since the days of the U-Pass, ridership at the universities has been very strong. Additionally, with the housing developments at UniverCity, the need for public transit up the Burnaby Mountain has probably increased as well. University has also further approved another chunk of land up there at SFU for further real estate development, and developers are looking to build more apartments, condos, and other supporting facilities up there on the hill.

-Lik

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-9-23 22:39

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-9-23 22:41 編輯

Philip,

I think you might be underestimating public transit's popularity at SFU (and for that matte ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-23 22:28

You moron~~,
Building the gondola is just a waste of money for another vanity project. Just look at the Olympics village that still has lots of units for sale. They claimed that the project will generate profits for the city. But now it is a burden, just like the Olympics was a vanity project. Building apartments at SFU is another project that will result in a few hundreds more empty units. Who would want to move up on to a hill? There are much better choices.

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-9-23 22:51

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作者: peter236 時間: 2010-9-23 22:55

You moron, in your own words, China's Olympics was a vanity project too?
mukmuk2 發表於 2010-9-23 22:51

You moron~~
Canada hosted the summer and winter Olympics before. But for China it was only the first summer Olympics.

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-9-23 22:57

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作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-23 22:58

Building the gondola is just a waste of money for another vanity project. Just look at the Olympics village that still has lots of units for sale. They claimed that the project will generate profits for the city. But now it is a burden, just like the Olympics was a vanity project. Building apartments at SFU is another project that will result in a few hundreds more empty units. Who would want to move up on to a hill? There are much better choices.
peter236 發表於 2010-9-23 22:39

Moron,

If you have no fxxking idea what the fxxk you are talking about, just SHUT THE FXXK UP. Do you have any idea how popular the real estate units are up there at UnivserCity? Do you know how many people are living up at UniverCity now? Do you know what kind of further (real estate) developments and supporting facilities the University is looking to go forward with? Have you even been up to SFU recently?

If you don't even have the slightest clue, please, just SHUT THE FXXK UP.

-Lik

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-9-23 23:01

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作者: peter236 時間: 2010-9-23 23:03

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-9-23 23:11 編輯

Moron,

If you have no fxxking idea what the fxxk you are talking about, just SHUT THE FXXK UP. Do ...
Lik 發表於 2010-9-23 22:58

you moron~~
hahaha just a bunch of empty units. Who would want to go up the hill which is so slippery when the weather is cold? There are only a few people living up there on the hill. You talked like it is a boom town.

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-9-23 23:06

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作者: pkphilip 時間: 2010-9-23 23:09

I have not been to SFU for years and I was driving there for 45 min...

Things have changed. I am old.

Philip

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2010-9-23 23:21

Production Way <-> SFU is one of the more frequently used routes. A gondola infrastructure might be cheaper than running busses up and down all the time. Obviously have to see the real math to know the numbers.

Having said that, just like any government led projects, there's always going to be some waste when you go through the bureauratic system. Nothing much you can do. Only other way is to privatize it, and we know that carries it's own set of problems.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-9-23 23:57

I have not been to SFU for years and I was driving there for 45 min...

Things have changed. I am old ...
pkphilip 發表於 2010-9-23 23:09

SFU has really seen some major changes and developments in the past 10 years, as has UBC. But between the two universities, I'd have to say that SFU's changes are at least seemingly more dramatic and noticeable.

Sigh... I'm well past my prime as well la... Can't even say I'm turning into an old fart because I have already turned into one.

-OF Lik

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-9-23 23:59

I have not been to SFU for years and I was driving there for 45 min...

Things have changed. I am ol ...
pkphilip 發表於 2010-9-23 23:09

The change in UBC over the past 10 years has been more stunning than in SFU.
There are way more new UBC buildings.

作者: mukmuk2 時間: 2010-9-24 06:11

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