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作者: tiffiant 時間: 2010-10-25 07:27 標題: Is Campbell shuffle enough to stop Liberal slide?

Is Campbell shuffle enough to stop Liberal slide?
Cabinet to be changed up
Mike Lloyd Oct 25, 2010 07:04:47 AM
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VICTORIA (NEWS1130) - Are juggling the lines a winning strategy for Team Campbell?  News1130 chatted with voters on the streets of Vancouver ahead of today's cabinet shuffle in Victoria.

The decision made by Premier Gordon Campbell to change things up comes a couple of days ahead of his televised address to British Columbians.  His approval ratings have also hit rock bottom, he's sitting at a dismal nine per cent.

So we asked you, 'Is there anything he can do to reverse that?'  And many people agreed the Liberals made their bed with the Harmonized Sales Tax, now they can lie in it.

One man says they just did what they wanted to do.  "They've got their own agenda and they stick to it.  They'll do their lies, they'll campaign, they'll say their things and it's a bunch of crap."

Rumours are swirling about some of the cabinet moves.  Some say current Minister of Children and Family Development Mary Polak may take on the role of Education Minister.

Meanwhile Minister of Environment Barry Penner will take the Solicitor-General position and the consensus seems to be that Colin Hansen will stick as Finance Minister, to keep a strong front in the HST fight.

作者: tiffiant 時間: 2010-10-25 07:28

what an ugly face

作者: CWong 時間: 2010-10-25 12:18

我的屎忽隆仲靚過佢个衰样！

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-25 16:58

個個都係咁衰架啦，但係我零願俾自由黨玩，都好過俾工會玩。

作者: Prelude 時間: 2010-10-25 17:48

個個都係咁衰架啦，但係我零願俾自由黨玩，都好過俾工會玩。
fibbi 發表於 2010-10-25 16:58

True, but the thing is if you keep voting for campbell, he will think he can throw any **** at us, we will still accept.

He already threw many **** at us and he is still here, so he is still robbing us more and more. We need to tell him that we like to vote for other **** rather voting for him, then they might smart up for next election and trying to help BC instead of robbing.
Campbell's party is so rich now after years and years of robbing and transferring our money to their "sponsors", it will only be harder and harder to push them down.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-25 17:54

You think NDP won't rob? All the "wu arr" are dark la...
I think....since now most ppl will turn to NDP, if NDP form majority govt...we will be in trouble too...so I'll still vote for Libreal hoping for a minority govt....then everything will be more balanced...

作者: Prelude 時間: 2010-10-25 18:29

You think NDP won't rob? All the "wu arr" are dark la...
I think....since now most ppl will turn to ...
fibbi 發表於 2010-10-25 17:54

Did you even read?
NDP will rob, of course. The point is to let the parties know that we don't like s h i t. Campbell thinks we love s h i t, because we have been keep on voting him while he throw s h i t at us every month. NDP might be even more useless, I know.

But do you like to have his s h i t in your mouth and tell him that you like it?

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2010-10-25 19:55

when every candidate is equally bad, apparently there's something wrong with the voting/political system

作者: sheep 時間: 2010-10-25 20:07

回復 3# CWong

咁一定有好多人排住隊你喇

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-25 21:51

回復 7# Prelude

Coz I know NDP will give more s h i x .

作者: fm9610 時間: 2010-10-26 00:12

本帖最後由 fm9610 於 2010-10-26 00:14 編輯

回復 10# fibbi

Whether you agree or not, Campbell has been voted the best fiscal premier in Canada by the Fraser Institute:

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/r ... splay.aspx?id=16737

Apparently the think tank people likes the way he ran the BC economy. I am just wondering what Carole/Moe will do when their turn comes

作者: CWong 時間: 2010-10-26 02:33

回復 CWong

咁一定有好多人排住隊你喇
sheep 發表於 25/10/2010 20:07

都預咗你会係咁了嘅人啦！

作者: Look4chrisng 時間: 2010-10-26 10:31

Everyone has a heartbeat knows Fraser Institute has their own agenda to push. They are just another publicity firm. Rating is just another press release of their opinion.

There is a difference between press release and facts.

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2010-10-26 11:09

回復 fibbi

Whether you agree or not, Campbell has been voted the best fiscal premier in Canada by ...
fm9610 發表於 2010-10-26 00:12

LOL...find out who this Fraser Institude has connection with before you put your trust in their review/report!

作者: Look4chrisng 時間: 2010-10-26 11:46

回復 14# shutterbug

Also, if Lib starts raping schoolgirls. They will still vote Lib because NDP will for sure rape girls as well as boys.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-10-26 11:59

The point is to let the parties know that we don't like s h i t. Campbell thinks we love s h i t, because we have been keep on voting him while he throw s h i t at us every month. NDP might be even more useless, I know.
Prelude 發表於 2010-10-25 18:29

This is the partially the point. Sometimes you vote for a party because you want to vote them in. Other times you vote for a party because you want to vote someone else out. In BC's case, voters have to send a message out to the Liberals and tell them that we do not like your policies and that we have the power to kick you out of the office. At the same time, it is also a solemn reminder of the same message to the NDP, that if they want to stay in office, they better give us something we like (or else...)

-Lik

作者: Look4chrisng 時間: 2010-10-26 15:11

回復 16# Lik

Amen. well spoken.

作者: daimo 時間: 2010-10-26 15:58

so we'll gladly take way more shix because we hate the current guy who lies about his shix?

作者: soli 時間: 2010-10-26 16:22

本帖最後由 soli 於 2010-10-26 16:24 編輯

This is the partially the point. Sometimes you vote for a party because you want to vote them in. O ...
Lik 發表於 2010-10-26 11:59

力仔跟左顛狗o甘耐﹐衰野就學晒﹐好野就一D都學唔到(無錯﹐顛狗都有D好野係值得欣賞既)。

每一個政黨﹐都各有自己既理念﹐並想將其理念推銷俾人民﹐希望得到人民支持﹐繼而執政。

當然﹐爭取支持既時候﹐又或者要打擊其他政黨﹐多多少少會耍點手段。

但若果為了執政﹐又或者連任﹐就為討好選民將政黨根本理念推翻﹐這就只能算做投機分子﹐不但會被大眾鄙視﹐也會被其核心支持者離棄。

新民主黨係偏左既政黨﹐若然得到理念仍偏右但為了懲罰自由黨既選民既支持而執政﹐新民主黨會因此作出政策上的改變﹐以迎合呢批新既偽支持者嗎? 一定不會

例如﹐新民主黨要大幅提高最低時薪﹐若得到原自由黨選民既支持而執政﹐會因此而放棄提高最低時薪嗎? 會因此而疏遠工會嗎? 一定不會

顛狗雖壞﹐但也不會為了區區選票而改其行事作風﹐亦能堅持理念(雖然係錯誤既理念)﹐算是有腰骨之人。

力仔自認係顛狗條靚﹐卻見不到顛狗既腰骨﹐甚至連咩係政黨理念都未清楚﹐就妄想政黨會如何如何做來迎合自己﹐甘唔算又傻又天真嗎?

為了懲罰自由黨而轉投新民主黨﹐就要預左接受新民主黨認為理所當然﹐但對自己來說是xxxx既政策啦。

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2010-10-26 17:30

回復 Prelude

Coz I know NDP will give more s h i x .
fibbi 發表於 2010-10-25 21:51

Even if Lib get another term, and throw us more sh_t. I'm sure NDP, even just for their first term, will throw even more sh_t our way.

It'll be Lib for another term for me, and will evaluate after yet another term.

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2010-10-26 17:33

so we'll gladly take way more shix because we hate the current guy who lies about his shix?

...
daimo 發表於 2010-10-26 15:58

It's apparent that even the worse term of the current Lib is probably better than the best term during NDP's 十年浩劫. Vote out Lib is obviously 為道氣. Can't disagree that Lib will probably lose just because of voter's 既呢一道氣. Not the most logical choice tho IMO.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-10-26 21:02

力仔跟左顛狗o甘耐﹐衰野就學晒﹐好野就一D都學唔到(無錯﹐顛狗都有D好野係值得欣賞既)。

每一個政黨﹐都 ...
soli 發表於 2010-10-26 16:22

Stupid Jai,

If you don't know any political theory, then stop talking shxt la. In a 2 party situation like what we are having in BC, the parties will invariably be merely center of left, right in the center, or center of right, meaning that on the whole, their policies that actually get executed will not be that different. In other words, on a scale of 1 to 10, if 1 is left leaning and 10 is right leaning, the NDP might ideologically be #4, while the Liberals are #6. But in a bid to get back into the office, the NDP might be pitching some #4.5 or even #5 policies in attempt to lure more of the swing votes or ex-Liberal voters. As long as they remain further on the left than the Liberals, they can probably preserve their basic pool of left leaning voters.

For the record, BC has the lowest minimum wage across the country, and if I am not mistaken, that min wage has been frozen for almost 10 years. Even to the Liberal supporters, there is not enough opposition against a min wage increase la.

Stupid~

-Lik

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-10-26 21:07

Stupid Jai,

If you don't know any political theory, then stop talking shxt la. In a 2 party situat ...
Lik 發表於 2010-10-26 21:02

You moron jai~~
What you are saying is that in a two party situation, there is little difference between the parties. That means you have a one-party dictatorship here.
That is why you need to bave a chaotic 6 - 12 parties to achieve some form of democracy.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-10-26 21:29

LOL~

Does Moron Peter even know what kind of crap he is spewing here?

You're in BC, moron. Take a look around you and tell us what the political situation is like.

-Lik

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-10-26 21:31

LOL~

Does Moron Peter even know what kind of crap he is spewing here?

You're in BC, moron. Take a ...
Lik 發表於 2010-10-26 21:29

You stupid moron~~
What you have is just a one-party dictatorship here. Whichever party is elected makes no difference, as the economy is sinking, and the province is going bankrupt regardless.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-10-26 21:34

LOL~

So BC has a 1-party dictatorship? That's the biggest piece of crap I've heard today.

Or have you mistaken your Great China for what we have? (because that's the 1-party dictatorship).

Opps! I forgot. In China, they call that the Chinese style democracy!

-Lik

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-10-26 21:38

LOL~

So BC has a 1-party dictatorship? That's the biggest piece of crap I've heard today.

Or ...
Lik 發表於 2010-10-26 21:34

Here all your parties are the same regardless and therefore is a one-party dictatorship.

作者: fm9610 時間: 2010-10-26 21:40

LOL...find out who this Fraser Institude has connection with before you put your trust in their rev ...
shutterbug 發表於 2010-10-26 11:09

Fraser Institute is well respected in the academic cycle. They are a non profit group and have been around since 1974. A lot of university students write papers to them to practice their skill/knowledge.

The report is based on the fiscal performance of ALL Canadian premiers. Personally, I do not think they are taking or have needs to take any side.

作者: Look4chrisng 時間: 2010-10-27 09:01

回復 28# fm9610

Their logo says " A free and prosperous world through choice, markets and responsibility"

So all their press releases are tailored to promote a their view. Big dif than real research org. which are found to "advancement of knowledge"

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-10-27 10:10

I like the philosophy, but how they execute it is different story

作者: fm9610 時間: 2010-10-27 11:15

本帖最後由 fm9610 於 2010-10-27 11:17 編輯

回復 fm9610

Their logo says " A free and prosperous world through choice, markets and responsibi ...
Look4chrisng 發表於 2010-10-27 09:01

Agree. But unlike other research company, they are not paid to do the work. If I got a bunch of like minded and highly educated people together, I will likewise publish our view, in the hope we are using our knowledge to serve the common good of All Canadians. This is a democracy, each one can have his/her say, that is why you will need to find ways to promote your view and convince others to get acceptance. Selfish and short-sight is harming the democracy we all treasure now.

作者: Lik 時間: 2010-10-27 11:32

While they are not explicitly paid to do their so-called "research" work, you have to look at where their funding came from. The Fraser Institute has been involved with quite a number of controversies where their published results were heavily questioned and criticized. I'm too lazy to dig up their history la, but I always take their "research results" with a grain of salt gum law.

-Lik

作者: Look4chrisng 時間: 2010-10-27 12:14

You should always remember:
1. Don’t believe anything Heritage says.
2. If you find what Heritage is saying plausible, remember rule 1.

That is what Paul Krugman (Nobel prize on Economics) said on Heritage Foundation. Fraser is just a carbon copy of Heritage.
You should always be suspicious when people posed as "Highly Educated people".

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2010-10-27 12:15

Fraser Institute is well respected in the academic cycle. They are a non profit group and have bee ...
fm9610 發表於 2010-10-26 21:40

Don't take things on the surface, dig deeper and find out who they have connections with in their pass events.

作者: fm9610 時間: 2010-10-27 13:19

Don't take things on the surface, dig deeper and find out who they have connections with in their p ...
shutterbug 發表於 2010-10-27 12:15

I am saying this from my experience in the Business faculty of a local Canadian university, where I did my post grad studies.

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2010-10-27 13:28

The Fraser Institute produces some valuable information,
which I agree;
however, their idea is too conservative for average Canadian

作者: Look4chrisng 時間: 2010-10-27 13:41

Which University and what post grad studies? would you mind sharing with us?

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-10-27 18:12

While they are not explicitly paid to do their so-called "research" work, you have to look at where ...
Lik 發表於 2010-10-27 11:32

You moron jai~~

What you are saying is that in a two party situation, there is little difference between the parties. That means you have a one-party dictatorship here.
That is why you need to bave a chaotic 6 - 12 parties to achieve some form of democracy.

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2010-10-28 11:49

I am saying this from my experience in the Business faculty of a local Canadian university, where ...
fm9610 發表於 2010-10-27 13:19

Tell me how is this related? You mean you spend a lot of time studying this Fraser Institude and dug up all the relevant events and people and studied them all? BTW, what did you write your thesis on?

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2010-10-28 12:27

One way to find out who they have connections with is to look at where their funding comes from. These are usually confidential info and it's hard to get sometimes but here is something interesting.

http://www.straight.com/article- ... company-report-says

Another other interesting read about FI:
http://www.vancouverobserver.com ... tute-gets-defensive

作者: fm9610 時間: 2010-10-28 21:42

Tell me how is this related? You mean you spend a lot of time studying this Fraser Institude and d ...
shutterbug 發表於 2010-10-28 11:49

When we write business papers, their studies are one of our reference sources, but not the ONLY sources.

作者: DragonFire 時間: 2010-10-29 02:55

點都好，我一定唔會再俾NDPo黎多次"十年浩劫"~

溫市中心新設單車線未開工已經話超支，完全係NDP一向作風.......

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