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作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-27 20:43 標題: LV wallet

最近病咗一排，都好耐無行過街，上星期好番少少，去咗downtown行咗一陣，經過Hotel Van嘅 LV，睇咗啲wallet，點知原來LV都outsource，個wallet係made in Spain嘅。我諗我真係孤陋寡聞咗少少。

作者: Guy 時間: 2010-10-27 21:05

aw.. you must have been sick for a long time.... you still okay ?

作者: kaimui22 時間: 2010-10-27 21:17

Outsource? LV is actually made in several countries..not just France and USA

Here's a list of countries
France, USA, Spain, Italy, Switzerland, Germany

Most wallets and small accessories are made in Spain

You can check out more info here :
http://forum.purseblog.com/date- ... cations-183525.html

作者: tiffiant 時間: 2010-10-27 21:31

lv is famous in hk
not sure in here canada

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-27 22:07

回復 3# kaimui22

Well...I don't know that... I am not saying Spain wallet is not good...just ... I would expect LV to be made in France...and definitely not made in USA!

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-10-27 23:07

We should buy Chinese wallets so that Chinese luxury brands can be more established.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-27 23:20

回復 6# peter236

Any example of Chinese luxury brands (in terms of handbag)?

I only know one very good chinese brand and I buy in HK all the time...潔柔面紙！

作者: zuesel 時間: 2010-10-27 23:23

回復 1# fibbi

I bought my wallet in the LV store in Paris. It's made in Spain.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-27 23:32

本帖最後由 fibbi 於 2010-10-27 23:33 編輯

回復 8# zuesel

I see...

作者: cremedelacreme 時間: 2010-10-27 23:35

So now I usually look where they are made in first before buying it. Although I don't have a problem buying if they are made in USA, Spain etc, but personally I just prefer France or Italy

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-27 23:37

回復 10# cremedelacreme

Yeah...if it's made in USA...why not buy Coach....
I'm paying not only the "brand"...but craftmanship too...and yeah..I do consider Italian or France more premier in leather goods than other places...

And actually...I don't know Chanel is really more expensive than LV...I thought they are about the same price... (can tell I didn't use those brand name goods much.. )

作者: cremedelacreme 時間: 2010-10-27 23:45

回復 cremedelacreme

Yeah...if it's made in USA...why not buy Coach....
I'm paying not only t ...
fibbi 發表於 2010-10-27 23:37

Yeah...that's what I thought too. If there are made in USA, might as well buy Coach, and apparently a lot of Coach are now made in China too

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-10-28 08:00

Wah ..  even ~ 20 yr ago, my big LV travel bag, was MADE IN USA ga la wor ..

Coach, Burberry, Juicy C, Gap, DKNY, .. etc .. are mostly made in China tim ..

You get what you pay ma ..  lower price hangbag, made in China etc ..  mid price, spain/US/Cezh/Pol .. but some LV still France gei ..

Upper class ...  still Italy, France, Belgium, German etc gei ..

You want good quality made in france travel bag ..  go Goyard la! I think they are still mostly handmade ...

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-28 09:59

回復 13# Catpiano

I didn't use LV 20 yrs ago mah... My LV handbag is made in France though. So I thought all LV are France lor... I just want wallet...I thought LV is more than mid-price la...I guess I'm wrong...
But yeah..compare to Hermes...

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-10-28 14:25

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-10-28 14:27 編輯

Chinese people have great craftmanship.
Just look at you own Chinese hands, they are so skillful. Don't you agree?

Whatever the brand is, if it is made in China, it should be of very high quality.

The European factories have many immigrant workers from Africa and Eastern Europe.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-28 14:50

回復 15# peter236

Then the fact is there is no premium Chinese brand well established for leather good yet. I'm glad to see if there's one. But so far there is none. So there is no surprise people stick with European brand. And looks who buy LV most? Mainland chinese can be seen in very LV store!

作者: 草莓妹妹 時間: 2010-10-28 15:57

本帖最後由草莓妹妹於 2010-10-28 15:58 編輯

Well, I was shopping @ Holts for a Speedy the other day. The sales told me that for the weekly Speedy shipments, there is only 1 or 2 that are Made in France from each box. So if you want the Made in France ones, it's better to let the sales know to place it on hold~ Otherwise, it's all MADE IN USA~

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-10-28 16:17

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-10-28 16:18 編輯

回復 peter236

Then the fact is there is no premium Chinese brand well established for leathe ...
fibbi 發表於 2010-10-28 14:50

The fact is that Chinese people have great craftmanship.
Even if you buy made in France, it is probably made by immigrant workers from Africa and Eastern Europe.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-28 16:18

回復 17# 草莓妹妹

I see...the one I had is never full, I got it from Paris and it's made in France...Yeah..next time if I do get LV I'll pay more attention...
But in the meanwhile I'm still searching a wallet...I need a compact one but able to fit in everything

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-28 16:20

回復 18# peter236

"We should buy Chinese wallets so that Chinese luxury brands can be more established."

Your original post is buy Chinese luxury brand but unfortunately there is NONE. Just admit that la...

It's not just about craftmanship. I am not saying Chinese craftmanship is not good. In fact, it's very good.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-10-28 16:21

Fibbi, are you trying to argue with Peter that Made in France handbag is better then made in China handbag??

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-10-28 16:26

回復 peter236

"We should buy Chinese wallets so that Chinese luxury brands can be more estab ...
fibbi 發表於 2010-10-28 16:20

If you don't respect your own culture, you will not buy a wallet from your own culture.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-28 16:26

回復 21# Catpiano

Argue? I don't wanna waste gas...haha
But there is really no Chinese luxury brand (in leather goods)...he gotta admit that la...

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-10-28 16:27

回復 Catpiano

Argue? I don't wanna waste gas...haha
But there is really no Chinese luxury br ...
fibbi 發表於 2010-10-28 16:26

Are you so sure there is no Chinese brand in any leather products?

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-28 16:27

回復 22# peter236

搵嚟講，無就係無，有嘅我都會買。

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-10-28 16:28

So now I usually look where they are made in first before buying it. Although I don't have a proble ...
cremedelacreme 發表於 2010-10-27 23:35

Those made in France and Italy are probably made by immigrant workers from Africa and East Europe.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-28 16:28

回復 24# peter236

I'm saying well established luxury brand like LV, Chanel. If there's one I want to know.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-10-28 16:35

回復 peter236

I'm saying well established luxury brand like LV, Chanel. If there's one I wan ...
fibbi 發表於 2010-10-28 16:28

What if a wallet is made in Italy by a Chinese person? Will you buy?

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-28 16:42

回復 28# peter236

Same thing as Japanese car made in USA, will you buy?

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-10-28 16:43

If you don't respect your own culture, you will not buy a wallet from your own culture.
peter236 發表於 2010-10-28 16:26

No wor .. I like to buy AAA wallet from our dear mother country wor ..

$5 for a LV wallet .. why not wor? lol

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-28 16:44

回復 30# Catpiano

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-10-28 16:59

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-10-28 17:04 編輯

回復 peter236

Same thing as Japanese car made in USA, will you buy?
fibbi 發表於 2010-10-28 16:42

This is wrong comparison.
I am taking about Italian brand name, made in Italy, by a Chinese person.
The correct comparison should be:
A Japanese car, made in Japan, by a Chinese person.
Will you buy?

Remember that there are many African and East European immigrants in France and Italy.
Your LV wallet maybe made in France by an African worker.
Will you buy a made in France LV wallet, made by an African worker?

Just like made in Canada, can be made by people from any ethnic group.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-28 17:22

回復 32# peter236

Made in Italy by a Chinese person? Sure I will take it. It's under same training and same management of the same company. I see no difference from made by Italian or Chinese.

BUT i'm talking about brand name here...too bad there is NO Chinese luxury brand in leather goods...just admit it la...

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-10-28 17:27

Fibbi, yeah .. at least, those Italian-Chinese, or French-Chinese, are not brain washed .. LOL

But how often? I am sure some (few) of them are chinese or indian, as 2 out of 5 people in the world are either chinese or indian ...

By the way Fibbi, you dont know more people buying LV in china then France mei? or anywhere else in the world!!

(I should say FROM MAINLAND CHINA)

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-28 17:36

回復 34# Catpiano

Yeah I said it in Post #16 la. Every LV store you can find Mainland Chinese la!

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2010-10-28 17:38

Hehe. True that I can't find a Chinese Luxury Leather brand. But there's a 'luxury' brand for suits from China: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trands. Luxury in a way anyways... LOL

Anyways, Made in France, Made in Germany, Made in US, Made in Japan, Made in China... IMO... quality/craftmanship-wise... it's a wash.... I mean c'mon... I can assure you I can find something Made in China with excellent craftsmanship/QC/reliability/quality, and something made in France that's a piece of junk and still costs crap loads.

It's all in the mind, just so one can show off their 'Made in Bling country' stuff ba. Not being a hypocrite here. I admit I am also an offender in this, hard to resist stuff that says 'Hand Made in France' on it LOL.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-28 17:43

回復 36# BiscottiGelato

Well ...that's what "luxury" is for.. ...for people to show off, for people to enjoy excellent craftmanship...
It takes time to establish the brand too...

Shanghaiese tailor is very famous too.

There is an article recently on MingPao that it takes years to train a person to maike a Hermes handbag...A person is required 8 yrs experience before he/she can handle more rare leather (like crocodile). Then it's craftmanship...and in return it charges you premium price lor.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-10-28 17:48

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-10-28 17:51 編輯

回復 peter236

Made in Italy by a Chinese person? Sure I will take it. It's under same traini ...
fibbi 發表於 2010-10-28 17:22

So if Coach makes a wallet in China, will you buy?
Coach makes sure the craftmanship is the same.

So will you buy a Honda/Toyota made in Canada?
Will you buy an Audi made in China?
Will you buy a RIM phone made in Mexico?
Will you buy an iPhone made in China?

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-28 17:51

So if Coach makes a wallet in China, will you buy?
Coach makes sure the craftmanship is the same.
...
peter236 發表於 2010-10-28 17:48

Yes I have Made in China coach bag. But I'm not paying premium price for it. The avg bag price is about $400-$500 while LV bag is avg at $1000.

Other things I don't use so no comment.

I do hope one day we will have more well established Chinese brand to choose from.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-10-28 17:53

So if Coach makes a wallet in China, will you buy?
Coach makes sure the craftmanship is the same.

So will you buy a Honda/Toyota made in Canada?
Will you buy a Audi made in China?
peter236 發表於 2010-10-28 17:48

I think all .. or most coach are made in china ... so, there is no choice.

Again, car, no choice, most Honda/Toyota in China now, made in china .. that is why, few friends of mine, (in china, and china men@_@) they buy Subaru.

Audi .. I am sure most buyers will prefer the German one, but huge price different.

Not just china, also same in TW. (if u want to call it TW province)

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-10-28 17:53

Yes I have Made in China coach bag. But I'm not paying premium price for it. The avg bag price is ...
fibbi 發表於 2010-10-28 17:51

You still have to answer these questions.

So will you buy a Honda/Toyota made in Canada?
Will you buy an Audi made in China?
Will you buy a RIM phone made in Mexico?
Will you buy an iPhone made in China?

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-28 17:54

回復 41# peter236

Told you. I don't use those products so I won't buy no matter where is the country of origin.

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-10-28 17:58

fibbi,

Will you buy a BMW/Mercedes/Nissan/VW/Ford/GM made in China?

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-28 18:00

回復 43# peter236

Yeah why not?

But admit it...there is no premium brand name in China yet.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-10-28 18:55

Ha Ha Ha Ha .. cow skin lamp .. need happy cow ...

作者: 嘉嘉 時間: 2010-10-28 21:21

fibbi,

Will you buy a BMW/Mercedes/Nissan/VW/Ford/GM made in China?
peter236 發表於 2010-10-28 17:58

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好心就唔該唔好o係度搞亂人地個post啦

作者: cremedelacreme 時間: 2010-10-28 23:30

fibbi,

Will you buy a BMW/Mercedes/Nissan/VW/Ford/GM made in China?
peter236 發表於 2010-10-28 17:58

Peter, you will never understand what a girl thinks! Especially when it comes to buying brand name luxury purse/wallet etc!!! If we are paying around $1000 or more for a purse, of course I would hope that my LV or Chanel etc purse are made in France/ made in Italy, instead of made in USA. However, if I buy a Coach, I won't mind that its made in China, because with the price I'm paying (around $300), I don't expect it to be made in USA, or even made in France etc etc. And you can't compare buying a purse to buying a car, its a totally different story! The price are so different too la! And I have to say, if I buy a Porsche, BMW, Mercedes, I expect it to be made in Germany. For example, If I want to buy a Porsche, BMW, and found out that they are made in China, or made in Mexico, then I will definitely NOT buy it, bcuz I think with the price I am paying, I expect good craftsmanship, and expect them to be made in Germany!

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-10-29 03:04

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-10-29 03:11 編輯

Peter, you will never understand what a girl thinks! Especially when it comes to buying bran ...
cremedelacreme 發表於 2010-10-28 23:30

hahaha, BMW and Mercedes are making a lot of cars in China.

The mentality that "foreigners are better".
It is this type of mentality that is preventing Chinese people from developing luxury brand name products.
Somehow foreign products made us feel better. That is why foreigners look down on us.

Even if you carry a LV bag, people don't respect you. But if you drive a Chinese brand car, foreigners will give you the highest respect.

Made in China means high quality products, equal to or better than made in Germany or France.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-10-29 07:22

if you drive a Chinese brand car, foreigners will give you the highest respect.
peter236 發表於 2010-10-29 03:04

YES! They will say:

" B R A V O ! "

LOL

Bravo Bravo .. that guy is so brave .......

I will say Bravo when I see people driving LADA too ..

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-29 09:11

回復 49# Catpiano

作者: MSN04 時間: 2010-10-29 09:24

hahaha, BMW and Mercedes are making a lot of cars in China.

The mentality that "foreigners are be ...
peter236 發表於 2010-10-29 03:04

Please tell me which BMW, that you can buy in Canada, is made in China.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-10-29 09:54

Please tell me which BMW, that you can buy in Canada, is made in China.
MSN04 發表於 2010-10-29 09:24

B R A V O !!!

作者: cremedelacreme 時間: 2010-10-29 10:00

hahaha, BMW and Mercedes are making a lot of cars in China.

The mentality that "foreigners are be ...
peter236 發表於 2010-10-29 03:04

If I carry a LV bag, its purely because I like the bag, not because I want to gain respect from foreigners. And honestly, I don't care how foreigners look at me, in terms of what kind of car I drive. I drive what I like, as simple as that!

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-10-29 12:23

Please tell me which BMW, that you can buy in Canada, is made in China.
MSN04 發表於 2010-10-29 09:24

BMW/Mercedes can't make enough cars for sale in China. So for the time being BMW will not export cars from China to Canada which is a small market.
Maybe some parts in the BMW sold in Canada are made in China.

作者: B2L2 時間: 2010-10-29 13:09

I owned a few bags in my life that made me proud. Of course they are made in our great China. Foreigners definitely gave me the highest respect since I could throw it, thrash it, abuse it and they are simply undestroyable. End of the days, they are the real classic bag and it's like a real piece of jewel. I am sure these bags will outlast any human species. LOL.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-10-29 14:03

OH YEAH !!

RED WHITE BLUE!!

KO made in France LV tim la..

作者: MSN04 時間: 2010-10-29 14:27

BMW/Mercedes can't make enough cars for sale in China. So for the time being BMW will not export c ...
peter236 發表於 2010-10-29 12:23

In other words, you can not buy a BMW in Canada that is made in China.

作者: 匿名 時間: 2010-10-29 14:29

I owned a few bags in my life that made me proud. Of course they are made in our great China. Fore ...
B2L2 發表於 2010-10-29 13:09

絕對係。。。而家流行的環保袋﹐我地偉大的祖國一早就有幾億人用緊

作者: 匿名 時間: 2010-10-29 14:32

話時話﹐呢輪去 LV SHOP 好多印度人同祖國同胞﹐逼到滿﹐特別係 HOLT RENFREW 那家﹐個個搶到黎買﹐看一兩眼就馬上付款﹐D貨去得勁快。。。反而去禁多次﹐唔多覺白人買﹐連香港人都少。

作者: fibbi 時間: 2010-10-29 14:51

回復 59# 匿名

去HF嘅LV store，簡直係梗有一個國內同胞喺咗近。

作者: peter236 時間: 2010-10-29 17:53

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2010-10-29 17:56 編輯

話時話﹐呢輪去 LV SHOP 好多印度人同祖國同胞﹐逼到滿﹐特別係 HOLT RENFREW 那家﹐個個搶到黎買﹐看一兩 ...
匿名發表於 2010-10-29 14:32

hahaha, just get used to it. This world is dominated by Chinese people and very soon, also by Indians.

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2010-10-29 19:25

hahaha, just get used to it. This world is dominated by Chinese people and very soon, also by Indi ...
peter236 發表於 2010-10-29 17:53

Already la..

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