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作者: charliewindson    時間: 2011-3-17 04:23     標題: should i EVACUATE FROM HONG KONG NOW?

本帖最後由 charliewindson 於 2011-3-17 04:35 編輯

first of all i'm going to be upfront and tell you that i'm not some chinese local trying to sneak in canada. i still have my CAD passport and id with me just like everyone here do.

i moved back to hk for around a year and a half now because my grandparents were ill and they wanted to see me. my uncle has relocated them back to the mainlands, however i cannot go with them because i don't have a chinese visa.

alas, i'm the last person left stuck in hong kong.
i've failed to secure a much more desirable delivery of potassium iodide from ebay due to troublesome USA seller whose intellect borderlines to downright stupidity; they don't know or don't want to use UPS which is just as fast as JEMS, despite my insistence of overpaying them for their troubles.  so right now, my iodide, with USPS priority won't get here for another 10 days. and i bought it 2 days ago before reactor 3 went to ****.

this is insane.

having lived here for awhile now, i can certainly say there never were any, nor will ever be, iodide stocks readily available, as there are no water purification tablets, no radiation counters and no nothing here.
i've been an avid reader of cold war fictions since my last years of high school, i know my chance of survival in a concrete high rise full of windows left and right during a nuclear fallout is zero.
i know every well that the hk govt is downplaying the seriousness of the meltdown threat just as much as the japanese did. i'd knew the reactor would eventually go into meltdown and i found myself baffled by the false assurances from the Japanese, a plant whose structural integrity with coolant rods is compromised would be an exact replica of Chernobyl meltdown on an even larger scale due to higher output of modern plants.

i also know that it can take exactly 2 days to reach hk by wind current.

canada? 6-8 days.

hospitals will be catastrophically overwhelmed, medicine won't last more than 1 day. the lucky bastards will die either full of painkillers or morphine, while 99.3% of the population will have to suffer a fate worse than death.

it'd be just like black plague. ppl die and rot like cattles, the rich and the poor.

what's hk's radiation prepareness & protocols like for the water resovoirs like? its likely there aren't even any.   

in mere 2 days trains to mainland won't do any good, less than 0.7% of the entire population masses will make it to the mainlands only for fallout to reach them as well.
by then it would make no difference. the PLA's notoriety for covering up their incompetency in the rescue effort of the mountain quake in the 60 that killed a million chinese speaks volume of their credibility and efficiency.
the mainlander's strong disdain for hk folks isn't reassuring either. it is questionable if hk will even be receiving humanitarian aid from the PLA fleet at all, i find it unlikely they will ever have any valiance to venture in an irradiated zone  to rescue their pro-british and freedom loving "comrades".

the water shortage and contamination will kill us, even if we somehow magically survives a mushroom cloud from japan...with 99%of the population without iodide.

sure underground canals are secure, but how many are there here in hk? they're not clean, even in such desperate times as drink or die, how long will THOSE last with so many people and no water purification tablets?

there will be a complete collaspe of social order, hong kong will be nothing but a footnote in history of mankind. just as japan will be. they didn't want to admit it until now. as it's been said before, the worst case senario will see the majority population of japan wiped out by gamma radiation and toxic dust, those evacuated to the south will suffer the merciless onslaught of cancer and birth defect in the next 100 years to come.
operation tomotachi continues on as the us navy pulls its fleet away, so much for commitment as per the security treaties of sino american post cold war, the USA has no doubt already evacuated or will evac people of significant cultural and heritage importance to preserve what's left of the Japanese people.

but what will the deceitful PRC do, for former british colonist who hated them so?

i'm a faily realistic person, i visited hk during sars epidemic and was trapped, to this day no one had realized the gravity of the situation as i did, when the 2 PRC battleships sailed towards hk i was the only one not overjoyed to see them. i knew they had a full compliment of serviceman and live rounds in their ship cannons to establish a blockade and commence a full quarantine of the entire city. the evidently present and strongfelt panic and fear is something that not very many of you can comprehend beyond the snippets that is broadcasted by fairchild TV or depicted in rthk's short dramas. i was a volunteer in the local community centre to distribute packs and packs of masks for seniors door-to-door in the wanchai district.  

i've made up my mind, the moment the reactor transitioned from partial to full meltdown, i'll do my best to secure a ticket and get out before everything goes to hell.

wish me luck.

and kids, don't cause your parents anymore grief by running over to hk, and you can cuss me as much as you want when this blows over.
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-3-17 06:03

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-3-17 06:04 編輯

Just a ton of nonsense. Even if the nuclear power plant explodes in Japan, the material will be dispersed over long distances. Can't believe you wasted so much time on this post.
You are just an anti-Chinese self-hating moron.
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2011-3-17 07:23

didn't read ..

But ..  may be time for OP to travel around the world ....
作者: tiffiant    時間: 2011-3-17 07:28

who cares, if you evacate,just do it
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2011-3-17 08:46

why do you want to get iodide???
I think HK ppl are in panic mode before Japanese are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot ... nts_and_emergencies
from Wiki:
Thyroid protection due to nuclear accidents and emergenciesIn 1982, the US FDA approved potassium iodide to protect thyroid glands from radioactive iodine involving accidents or fission emergencies. In an accidental event or attack on a nuclear power plant, or in nuclear bomb fallout, volatile fission product radionuclides may be released. Of these products, 131I is one of the most common and is particularly dangerous to the thyroid gland because it may lead to thyroid cancer. By saturating the body with a source of stable iodide prior to exposure, inhaled or ingested 131I tends to be excreted, which prevents radioiodine uptake by the thyroid. The protective effect of KI lasts approximately 24 hours. For optimal prophylaxis, KI must be dosed daily until a risk of significant exposure to radioiodine by either inhalation or ingestion no longer exists.

Potassium iodide cannot protect against any other causes of radiation poisoning, nor can it provide any degree of protection against dirty bombs that produce radionuclides other than radioisotopes of iodine. See fission products and the external links for more details concerning radionuclides.
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The World Health Organization does not recommend KI prophylaxis for adults over 40 years, unless inhaled radiation dose levels are expected to threaten thyroid function; because, the KI side effects increases with age and may exceed the KI protective effects "...unless doses to the thyroid from inhalation rise to levels threatening thyroid function, that is of the order of about 5 Gy. Such radiation doses will not occur far away from an accident site."[25]
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2011-3-17 08:58

I bet using cell phone for hours/day will get more radiation ...
作者: LOK    時間: 2011-3-17 09:26

Don't worry, 食屎可抗輻射!

[美國研究報告]進食人體糞便可抗輻射

根據美國權威核專家報告，動物糞便中含有一種特殊的消化酶-恩斯坦酶 (instaanmese)，其波長與核分裂釋放出的輻射波長吻合，透過破壞性干涉(Destructive Interference) 可以完全抵消核輻射的影響，建議每天進食適量的糞便以作防禦輻射影響之用。專家更指出，由於凡哺乳類動物的糞便都存在這種酶素，如有便秘或找不到合適的地方回收糞便，可以考慮進食其他動物的糞便以吸收足夠酶素。一般狗隻或家畜的糞便中都有足夠的份量，當中以狗隻糞便的含量最多。

http://www.loyaukee.com/forum/vi ... 9748&highlight=
作者: fibbi    時間: 2011-3-17 10:12

回復 1# charliewindson


    The wind can blow radioactive stuff to HK but it can also blow across the Pacific to Vancouver (or the West Coast). So where do you want to go? The East Coast?

Just...no where to go sometimes. Vancouver could also have chance for large scale of earthquake, who knows when?
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2011-3-17 11:02

回復  charliewindson


    The wind can blow radioactive stuff to HK but it can also blow across th ...
fibbi 發表於 2011-3-17 10:12



    You are welcome to Alberta!!

Rockies will block the radiation and Tsunami for u!
作者: fibbi    時間: 2011-3-17 12:00

回復 9# Catpiano


    Calgary is good ... economy is better too!
But....too cold! >_<
作者: boss2007    時間: 2011-3-17 17:21

回復 2# peter236


    charliewindson may be right ... as the MOX Fuel burned @ Fukushima reactor is 200 times more toxic - according to Nuke Engineer  @

http://my.firedoglake.com/kirkmu ... rnobyl-on-steroids/

fibbi may be right - who knows when the Yellowstone strikes ? especially the Super Moon is close - may be this weekend or within 14 days ?

Just do your best and prepared - just the Karma operates by itself - like the Chinese proverb - 一切都是命定 ...
作者: tiffiant    時間: 2011-3-17 19:18

he should go to mars, earth is dangerous
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-3-17 20:12

he should go to mars, earth is dangerous
tiffiant 發表於 2011-3-17 19:18


Where are you going now?
作者: tiffiant    時間: 2011-3-18 01:05

peter, let's go mars or venus
作者: lo_pak    時間: 2011-3-18 08:31

回復 14# tiffiant

Mars or Venus has got even higher radiation wow...
作者: tiffiant    時間: 2011-3-18 19:16

if that so, prepare to die
作者: zoids    時間: 2011-3-18 21:04

tl; dr.  Go to heaven, be with Jesus, the only place you can find peace.

Amen.
作者: boss2007    時間: 2011-3-18 23:09

回復 1# charliewindson


    charliewindson - time proved your worry is right - LEVEL 7 now @

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B ... ure=player_embedded
作者: charliewindson    時間: 2011-4-11 20:54

本帖最後由 charliewindson 於 2011-4-11 21:21 編輯

indeed it is.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13045341

Level 7 = Chernobyl scale but the japs ain't gonna tell you its going to blow until its ready to blow. in the meantime at level 7 its still safe here.

i've noticed more japanese passerby in recent weeks, though it puzzles me as to why it is these very few have chosen to come here whereas they could have gone to Vancouver instead, since i rekon japs speak english a trillion times better than a certain former  colonists of great Britannia

all governments lie, but it is often done for the greater good of the masses in modern times. least people will not be consumed by their own misery and grief till the inevitable arrives.

nothing's failsafe/bullet-proof in this world, nothing's ever been so.
men challenged god to sink their so called unsinkable ship, and the greatest architects will tell you high rises are not capable of falling even when their core structure integrity is compromised, then men stared in awe and disbelief at reality that is their utter failure..and proceed to improve their craftsmanship and onto making the same mistake again and again.

lots of people seemed surprised that a modern plant with so much safety and redundancies can reach such catastrophic levels of damage on the very verge of meltdown.  plate tectonic dictates hong kong being prone to magnitude 4> quakes, however no buildings in hong kong have ever been built to withstand any magnitude of quakes of any kind; no buildings built ever took earthquake into account so even at magnitude 5 i'm certain there'd be buildings collapsing left and right.

http://blogs.wsj.com/hong-kong/2 ... hreat-to-hong-kong/

it took exactly 2 days for the trace level radiation winds to reach hong kong;
as i said it would.

i guarantee anything at magnitude 6< and hong kong will wiped off the face of the earth, and there'd be no point in any rescue effort. get ready to see a flood of hkers back in richmond and a new era of "left and right" mainlander hate will reign once more.

i don't need to go to mars, i live in nelsons afterall. if it does go off, i can't say i'm gonna feel sorry for all the 90s dumb kids who doesn't have a ticket within an hour of media reported meltdown. they're gonna be sorry for moving back here for the crappy city life because they simply got bored in canada. as i said before, Chernobyl is nothing compared the output of a single fukashima plant alone, and the japs aren't even going to tell us if the other one ( was it no.2 or 5?) is stable or not, if 2 of 'em pop, like i said, any poor unlucky bastards who didn't get out of hk will have zero chances of survival even if they reach mainland. well for me, i aint got nothing to worry about now for obvious reasons. glad the japs were willing to lose face and admit the gravity of the situation than raising the red flag at the very last minute, at least now their population are definitely less hesitant about leaving their home and being stigmatized by the media and public minority.



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