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作者: Lik    時間: 2011-3-28 09:50     標題: 以言入罪：四川作家冉雲飛涉煽動顛覆國家政權被捕

http://hk.news.yahoo.com/article/110328/18/nhyc.html

四川作家冉雲飛涉煽動顛覆國家政權被捕
(商台)2011年3月28日 星期一 22:55

中國人權民運信息中心指，四川 作家冉雲飛，被指涉嫌散佈茉莉花革命信息，被成都檢察院，以「煽動顛覆國家政權罪名」正式逮捕。冉雲飛上月二十日，在家中被帶走，當局以「顛覆國家政權」為由，將他刑事拘留。他妻子王偉證實，今早收到正式逮捕通知書，丈夫目前被關押在都江堰看守所，稍後將進入起訴程序。

四十六歲的冉雲飛，是《零八憲章》首批聯署人之一。
作者: chobit    時間: 2011-3-28 11:06

Looking at this 暴徒砸店縱火倫敦大亂
That's exactly what China doesn't want at this stage..
I really don't want to see China progressing too fast, and loss control of their people...!
Take Liyba as an example....!  Of course that's diff if the China Government is doing poorly.  At this time, I think it's still growing very well...!
作者: 快樂牛郎    時間: 2011-3-28 11:35

ppl in china just need to learn to shut up
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2011-3-28 11:46

回復 3# 快樂牛郎


    Or get in Jail,  what is justice?  a joke that is.
    Get the prisoners  to build more jails.
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-3-28 12:40

More info here:

http://news.mingpao.com/20110329/caa1h.htm
http://news.mingpao.com/20110329/caa2.htm
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-3-28 12:42

ppl in china just need to learn to shut up
快樂牛郎 發表於 2011-3-28 11:35

In general, agree with you on this.
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-3-28 12:48

In general, agree with you on this.
peter236 發表於 2011-3-28 12:42

That's what you are a 仆街闔家剷.

-Lik
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-3-28 12:53

That's what you are a 仆街闔家剷.

-Lik
Lik 發表於 2011-3-28 12:48

PK jai, go talk to 牛郎 gor.
作者: rockypath    時間: 2011-3-28 14:00

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2011-3-28 14:03 編輯

People who support and promote 中國茉莉花革命 are either idiots, 腦殘 or 心術不正心懷不軌.

Some of you guys may want to accuse me for defending or promoting CCP, I would suggest you to shut up.

I am not talking about CCP, 中國茉莉花革命 is just a plain joke.
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-3-28 14:21

中國茉莉花革命所做嘅只不過係叫人一齊出來散散步，極其量都只係叫兩句「我要工作、我要吃飯」之類嘅口號。試問咁又何罪之有？

原來響你條低能仔眼中，咁樣就叫做腦殘、心術不正、同心懷不軌。亦即係話，響你眼中，原來要工作、要吃飯都算係腦殘、心術不正、同心懷不軌。

真係唔知邊個先至係腦殘、心術不正、同心懷不軌囉～

-力
作者: ricrick    時間: 2011-3-28 14:29

有人天生是奴才隻狗，愛莫能助
作者: rockypath    時間: 2011-3-28 21:26

真係唔知邊個先至係腦殘、心術不正、同心懷不軌囉

Lik, you belong to 腦殘一族.  If you are interested, I can tell you the reason why.
作者: zuesel    時間: 2011-3-28 23:11

本帖最後由 zuesel 於 2011-3-28 23:13 編輯

PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE
DEPACHE MODE

People are people
So why should it be
You and I should get
Along so awfully
People are people
So why should it be
You and I should get
Along so awfully

So we're different colours
And we're different creeds
And different people have different needs
It's obvious you hate me
Though I've done nothing wrong
I've never ever met you so what could I have done

I can't understand
What makes a man
Hate another man

Help me understand

People are people...

Help me understand
Help me understand

Now you're punching
And you're kicking
And you're shouting at me
I'm relying on your common decency
So far it hasn't surfaced
But I'm sure it exists
It just takes a while to travel
From your head to your fists

I can't understand
What makes a man
Hate another man
Help me understand

[youtube]MzGnX-MbYE4[/youtube]
作者: 快樂牛郎    時間: 2011-3-28 23:22

yes
people get along awfully
as you can see on this board
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-3-29 22:30

http://news.mingpao.com/20110330/cac1.htm

前學運領袖涉茉莉花被捕

【明報專訊】繼四川作家冉雲飛之後，再有異見人士因「茉莉花」事件被正式逮捕。中國人權民運信息中心表示，前八九學運領袖丁矛被四川綿陽市檢察院以「煽動顛覆國家政權罪」正式起訴。

該中心稱，丁矛被指在網上轉送中國茉莉花革命的消息，於上月29日被公安帶走，當局前日通知丁妻馮霞，指丁矛因「煽動顛覆國家政權罪」被正式逮捕。

澳籍博客 廣州機場失蹤

今年43歲的丁矛，1989年學運時是蘭州高自聯主席，1992年組織中國社會民主黨。他兩度被囚禁近10年。

據維權網統計，由2月20日首次中國茉莉花革命至本周一，已有25人被以「煽動顛覆國家政權」、「尋釁滋事」等罪名拘留。

另據博訊網報道，澳洲籍華裔博客作家楊恒均27日晚在廣州機場失蹤，澳洲駐廣州領事館已向中國外交部查詢。據澳洲媒體報道，楊恒均經常在網上發表文章，評論中國政情。失蹤前他稱在機場遭人跟蹤。
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-3-29 22:31

共匪重要拉多幾多個良心犯？！

-力
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2011-3-29 22:56

共匪重要拉多幾多個良心犯？！

-力
Lik 發表於 2011-3-30 14:31

好明顯, 共產黨就唔會比d 有機會令到中國"亂"既人有機可乘.
一日中國仲有機會"亂", 共產黨都會拉人. 我佩服d 所謂良心犯(我從來都唔覺得佢地係犯)既勇氣, 因為我知道自己一定唔會冒呢d 險.
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-3-29 23:50

依家維穩費用已經高過軍費，亦即係話，投放落啲用來鎮壓自己人民嘅資源簡直仲高過對抗「外敵」嘅資源。試問世界上又有邊個央央大國會咁荒謬？

-力
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-3-30 00:12

依家維穩費用已經高過軍費，亦即係話，投放落啲用來鎮壓自己人民嘅資源簡直仲高過對抗「外敵」嘅資源。試問 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-3-29 23:50


There is nothing special about this. Many countries spend more on police than military, since most countries do not need to fight wars all the time, like the US or UK.
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-3-30 00:39

There is nothing special about this. Many countries spend more on police than military, since most ...
peter236 發表於 2011-3-30 00:12

仆街，

你知唔知維穩係指啲乜野呀？即係鄉、縣、省、中央各級派人員去阻止同捉返上訪人士果啲；即係地方爆屎渠（有冤案）然後阿爺拎出來做暗口費果啲；即係金盾工程、綜合監控、中國防火場等等有關嘅科研；即係打壓茉莉花行動；即係地方同中央度水最新、最有效嘅招數（當然中間又點少得自己從中濕吓腳、「係咁易」抽返個佣）。

使呢啲咁嘅冤枉錢，目的無非只係為咗維護中共政權繼續執政。除咗一個極度懼怕自己人民嘅政府，又邊處有人會咁樣使錢法？！

去仆街啦你！

-力
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2011-3-30 01:01

依家維穩費用已經高過軍費，亦即係話，投放落啲用來鎮壓自己人民嘅資源簡直仲高過對抗「外敵」嘅資源。試問 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-3-30 15:50

咁我又問下你喇, 世界上有邊個國家好似中國咁, 人口咁多 and 人均知識水平低 and 經濟高速發展中 and 一黨專政呢?
中國絕對係一個exceptional 既地方, 一般既政策係唔係可以o係中國實行, 我諗最清楚既會係共產黨. 希望共產黨既做法係會令中國好吧, 講真, 可能我多慮(更年期係咁架喇), 我都唔知中國人係唔係適合西方民主的.
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-3-30 01:08

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-3-30 01:27 編輯
仆街，

你知唔知維穩係指啲乜野呀？即係鄉、縣、省、中央各級派人員去阻止同捉返上訪人士果啲；即係地方 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-3-30 00:39


This 茉莉花行動 is just some people trying to create problems and disorder within the society. This can potentially set China's economic development back for decades. As we now know, the western powers are behind this 茉莉花行動. The US ambassador showed up in Beijing's Wangfujin. These western powers want to create big protests in China, and then use an excuse to start military action, just like in Libya.
There is no Chinese in the world who would be dumb enough to support western military interference in China.

These western powers are bankrupt now, so they wanted to create problems everywhere in the world, as they thrive on wars elsewhere in the world.

China needs to maintain the stability so that it can continue to grow. The full recovery of Chinese power is not complete. We should not foolishly derail this rapid rise of Chinese power. When China is fully developed then we can deal forcefully with these western racists.
作者: rockypath    時間: 2011-3-30 01:22

本帖最後由 rockypath 於 2011-3-30 01:27 編輯

茉莉花革命根本就是一個不知所謂的鬧劇。

首先，這場所謂的“革命”並不是中國自身發起的。只不過是看到北非鬧革命，就跟風並搞得不倫不類。正所謂照貓畫虎反似犬。

第二，發動革命總有帶頭人（黨）並有清晰的理想和理念。請問到目前為止，那些跟風起哄的人是否知道茉莉花革命的發起人是誰？他是一個怎樣的人，持有什麼樣的信仰理念？他發動茉莉花革命要達到什麼目的？

為一個不知所謂何人發動的一個不知所謂的“革命”而賣命是否值得？不如留著自由身做一些更切實際的事情。

第三，革命不是散步圍觀。借用 “革命不是散步圍觀” 社論裏的一段話 ―― “這就使我想到清末「戊戌六君子」之一譚嗣同就義前的題壁絕筆詩：「我自橫刀向天笑，去留肝膽兩崑崙」。能夠真正改變人心和扭轉國運的革命，絕對不會是兒戲一場或者延燒網上惡搞爛局，更非請客吃飯，遑論只懂號召上街散步圍觀走人。這一刻，真要誠心地請求大家必須慎用「革命」這二字，以免辱及一眾先烈。”     （http://news.singtao.ca/vancouver ... 376178d3021286.html）

對不起，我沒法同情和認同那些搞茉莉花革命的人。
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-3-30 09:19

我諗最清楚既會係共產黨. 希望共產黨既做法係會令中國好吧, 講真, 可能我多慮(更年期係咁架喇), 我都唔知中國人係唔係適合西方民主的.
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2011-3-30 01:01

不溜都知道MJJ你比天真嬌更天真更傻，所以你講埋啲咁嘅垃圾說話，我一啲都唔出奇。

只要對中共稍為有少少認識嘅都知道，中共最關心嘅只有兩樣野：

1）自己能否繼續獨自掌握政權
2）自己能否繼續從獨自掌握政權當中來自肥

政策會唔會令中國好，簡直係毫不重要。但如果做一啲野可以幫助達到目標＃1同＃2嘅話，咁就絕對可以做。

而兩條仆街擦鞋賤狗所講嘅廢話就更加垃圾。正所謂空穴來風必有因，茉莉花革命之所以響中國發出咁大徊響，就正正係因為中國社會本身已經存在住巨大嘅壓力。社會嘅扭曲、不公義、匪夷所思嘅一切活動、民怨、民憤等等，本身早就已經響個社會壓力煲裡面就來要爆大鑊。從阿爺對茉莉花革命嘅高度關注就可以睇得出，共慘黨其實亦非常清楚茉莉花革命對自己能否繼續獨攬政權有幾大威脅。畢竟，共慘黨自己上到位就正正係因為佢當年食住一股民怨、民憤而推翻當年嘅當權者來上台。

當然，兩條契弟就只會依照阿爺對你地洗腦嘅 script 來廢 up.你兩條賤種真係唔死都無用。

-力
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-3-30 09:27

又拉一個喇？

http://inews.mingpao.com/htm/inews/20110330/ca31404a.htm

八九學生領袖陳衛被捕 (14:05)

中國人權民運信息中心周三表示，八九學生領袖陳衛被捕，是第三名涉及「茉莉花集會」被捕的異見人士。

中心表示，四川遂寧市檢察院周二以「煽動顛覆國家政權」罪，正式逮捕42歲的陳衛，他目前被扣押在看守所。

他是繼四川作家冉雲飛，以及另一名前學運領袖丁矛之後，第三位因為涉及內地的茉莉花集會，被正式拘捕及起訴的人。

42歲的陳衛在六四事件後，曾被拘禁一年。
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-3-30 10:27

又拉一個喇？



八九學生領袖陳衛被捕 (14:05)

中國人權民運信息中心周三表示，八九學生領袖陳衛被捕，是 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-3-30 09:27

This 茉莉花行動 is just some people trying to create problems and disorder within the society. This can potentially set China's economic development back for decades. As we now know, the western powers are behind this 茉莉花行動. The US ambassador showed up in Beijing's Wangfujin. These western powers want to create big protests in China, and then use an excuse to start military action, just like in Libya.
There is no Chinese in the world who would be dumb enough to support western military interference in China.

These western powers are bankrupt now, so they wanted to create problems everywhere in the world, as they thrive on wars elsewhere in the world.

China needs to maintain the stability so that it can continue to grow. The full recovery of Chinese power is not complete. We should not foolishly derail this rapid rise of Chinese power. When China is fully developed then we can deal forcefully with these western racists.
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2011-3-30 17:41

不溜都知道MJJ你比天真嬌更天真更傻，所以你講埋啲咁嘅垃圾說話，我一啲都唔出奇。

只要對中共稍為有少少 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-3-31 01:19

死喇... 我真係覺得共產黨想中國人民可以富起來啊!



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