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作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2011-5-2 19:34 標題: 唔明拉登究竟點死.

我有D confuse..
初時巴基斯坦唔係話佢地有架直昇機定戰機被撃落, 之後第二架就打去拉登度.
但之後美國話佢地美軍獨自行動, 兩架直昇機包圍,之後步兵打入去.

係我睇唔晒個故仔定點, 有邊個清楚先後?

同埋, 係點打頭? 處決式定Snipper?  唔係話個堡壘得好少門窗咩?

以美國佬做法, 知道左咁多個月, 點解等到呢日? 卡達非一個月後就差唔多炸死...

如果係選票, 又未真係選....

May be no more money?  find an excuse and withdraw troops to cut down budget? hmmm

我覺得件事唔簡單.  唔明唔明.

作者: elan7e 時間: 2011-5-2 19:48

"以美國佬做法, 知道左咁多個月, 點解等到呢日?"
Make he has the same date of death as Hilter

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-5-2 19:52

My understanding is:

1) One of the US helicopters crashed due to technical difficulties. Official statement and media releases did not suggest that it was shot down or otherwise damaged due to battle. The chopper was subsequently destroyed by US forces themselves as a national security measure.

2) It is unclear who actually shot and killed Bin Laden. From the various media releases, it appears to me that during the firefight, the two sides just kept duking it out until the US Navy SEALs overpowered Bin Laden's forces.

3) The US only appeared to have known about this compound since Jan/Feb. Investigation took time, and at first, intelligence only knew that a VIP was housed in there. It took more investigation time to gather enough evidence to suggest that Bin Laden himself had a high probability of being there.

A lot of facts will never be known until they are of little interest to the whole world when they can be de-classified.

-Lik

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-5-2 20:14

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作者: AAC 時間: 2011-5-3 07:39

何能根本未死，被美國收埋都未定。

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2011-5-3 07:55

回復 5# AAC

Agreed, it would be a waste to kill him and let him to be the martyr.

The CIA can brainwash him and turn him against his gangs.

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-5-3 08:08

回復 6# somewhereintime

The CIA is incapable to override the authority of Allah though...

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2011-5-3 08:12

回復 somewhereintime

The CIA is incapable to override the authority of Allah though...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-5-3 08:08

Is it our problem?

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2011-5-3 08:21

回復 6# somewhereintime

The least the CIA can do is to treat him like Saddam, be a clown at the circus

作者: 匿名 時間: 2011-5-3 09:05

食魚被骨哽死

出門口先親撻死

飲水俗死

老婆勾佬激死

唔理點死﹐最緊要係死左

作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2011-5-3 09:25

Well. i check the news, originally it is pakistan's helicopter got hit and went down. Then their force went it and search.. then somehow kill Bin Laden.
That was the few originally fews.  Then after that, obama's announcement overwhelm everything and that news was not on spotlight.

and as said in radio,  1) there are only few guards in the building.  2) it took 40 mins to kill.  by.. damn.. they are SEAL.  how can they take that long? even longer than Philippines police?  hmmm

whether Laden is dead or not, the story has some problem..
.

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-5-3 10:43

My personal take is that the 40 min figure is not the duration of the entire firefight. Instead, it includes the start of the Navy SEALs operation until the conclusion when they have entered the compound, scanned through and secured the entire site.

But there is probably no way for us to know how long this operation will take until XBox/PlayStation release the mission in a US Navy SEALs game...

-Lik

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-5-3 12:16

Hmm... new info again:

http://www.vancouversun.com/news ... /4719715/story.html

Bin Laden wasn't armed when he was shot, White House says
By Sheldon Alberts, Postmedia News May 3, 2011 12:49 PM

WASHINGTON — The White House on Tuesday substantially revised its version of Osama bin Laden's death, revealing the al-Qaida leader was not armed when he was shot in the head by U.S. Commandoes.

A spokesman for President Barack Obama also backtracked on earlier White House claims that bin Laden used his wife as a human shield to protect himself.

Now, officials say a woman who was not bin Laden's wife rushed U.S. assaulters and was injured, not killed.

One woman did die in the raid, but she was caught in the "crossfire" of a firefight on a separate floor of the large compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

The new details contradict on-the-record and off-the-record versions offered by senior U.S. officials about how the operation went down, including statements that bin Laden had a weapon.

The White House is still weighing whether to release photos of bin Laden's body out of concerns over their "gruesome" nature.

More to come...

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-5-3 12:43

A lot more detail here:

http://www.thestar.com/news/worl ... ck-white-house?bn=1

作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2011-5-3 14:08

Hmm... new info again:
Lik 發表於 2011-5-3 12:16

wasn't Obama say he and other officers watching the entire operation? hmmm

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-5-3 15:35

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作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2011-5-3 16:37

I think I'm laughing at is that. they make such a big deal of "OH.. a Million house.. ".
****.. in vancouver, there are tones of houses over millionssss. Ladin should have moved to Vancouver and no one will find him.

by the way, from outside, the house doesn't look like a pretty resort, just like a 村屋.

作者: Guy 時間: 2011-5-3 16:58

This map is GONNA be on the Call of Duty for sure~!!

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-5-4 21:51

[attach]11233[/attach]

Anyone knows if this is a modified "Blackhawk" or some new models?

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-5-4 22:19

Aircraft experts in the media and aviation field are saying this is a highly modified H60 Blackhawk, most likely equipped with stealth capabilities (low radar visibility). And because there is stealth technology involved, the SEALs had to take precious time to ensure that the aircraft is destroyed. In particular, Pakistan and China have been establishing closer ties, and have, in fact, co-developed aircrafts for military use in the past. So the implications of leaving any traces of technology behind is simply unacceptable from the US' point of view.

-Lik

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-5-4 22:24

回復 20# Lik

This tail left over seems like it deserves quite a bit of money from China...

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-5-4 22:27

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作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-5-4 22:32

回復 22# fy789

I mean the helicopter tail...

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-5-4 22:42

回復 Lik

This tail left over seems like it deserves quite a bit of money from China... ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-5-4 22:24

At this point, I doubt there is anything of value in both the tail and the burnt up wreckage of the helicopter. Tthe SEALs would surely have done a thorough job of ensuring that all national technological secrets are destroyed.

-Lik

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-5-4 23:11

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作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-5-5 00:35

剿拉登墜毀疑是美隱形直升機

(星島)2011年5月5日星期四 15:46

美軍海豹突擊隊日前圍剿拉登時，有一架武裝直升機懷疑因機件故障失事墜毀。軍事分析家看過那架直升機的殘骸照片後，發現它與以前見過的直升機不同，懷疑美國正在研發高度機密的隱形直升機，而在今次行動中損失了的，就是其中一架隱形直升機。
　　
那架直升機墜毀後，在場的美軍人員決定即時把殘骸炸毀，以免有重要資料和情報落入恐怖分子和不法之徒手中。不過，照片仍可以清楚看到機尾部分。
　　
美軍指出，當天有份參與突擊行動的直升機，包括出事的一架，都是為人熟悉的黑鷹直升機。不過，有軍事分析家看過照片後指出，出事直升機的機尾明顯經過改裝，與常見的黑鷹直升機不同。
　　
外界一直猜測美軍正在研發可以避開雷達偵測的隱形直升機，但國防部一直三緘其口，不肯證實。

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-5-5 00:38

回復 25# fy789

It seems too big for a Comanche ...

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-5-5 00:49

回復 Lik

This tail left over seems like it deserves quite a bit of money from China... ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-5-4 22:24

Some people are claiming the helicopter is a stealth version of the Blackhawk.
I don't think China needs it, since Chinese indigenous technologies have largely improved to western standards already. There is little to learn from the US.

However, it is clear that the US is testing this new stealth helicopter, not detectable by Pakistani military.

作者: tiffiant 時間: 2011-5-5 07:14

usa should cover something

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-5-5 08:04

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作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-5-5 13:14

回復 30# fy789

Not like you sitting in the office all the time, in the field I have to use every means of reference frame for rough size guessing...

Have you ever seen one stabilizer in any US air combat helicopter that is of the size of almost 5m in width?

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