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作者: tiffiant    時間: 2011-5-5 07:20     標題: Torture used to obtain bin Laden hideout information: ex-CIA man

Torture used to obtain bin Laden hideout information: ex-CIA man


Key intelligence that led the U.S. to Osama bin Laden's hideout was obtained under torture in secret "black site" prisons, a former CIA officer has claimed.


Jose Rodriguez, the agency's former head of counter-terrorism, said vital information had come from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Abu Faraj al-Libi, two deputies of bin Laden who were subjected to "enhanced interrogation techniques".


Mohammed, who he refers to as KSM, was tortured using simulated drowning, or "waterboarding". He started "spilling his guts" when he realized "resistance was unwise", another official boasted.


The comments, in an interview with Time magazine, prompted an immediate denial from the White House, which said there was "no way" intelligence obtained under torture had been decisive in the manhunt.


Mr Rodriguez, who was in charge of the CIA's counter-terrorism centre from 2002 to 2005, when the two al-Qaida leaders were captured, was speaking for the first time since being cleared of allegations that he destroyed videos of al-Qaida suspects being interrogated.


Following bin Laden's death on Sunday, President Barack Obama said that he had been found after the CIA tracked down a trusted courier who lived with him in his compound in Pakistan.


Mr Rodriguez said: "Both KSM and al-Libi were held at CIA black sites and subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques. Al-Libi was not waterboarded, but his information on the courier was key.


"Information provided by KSM and al-Libi about bin Laden's courier was the lead information that eventually led to the location of the compound and the operation that led to his death."


He said al-Libi started giving information a week after he was subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques, including sleep deprivation.


One former senior intelligence official told Time: "Once KSM decided resistance was unwise, he then started spilling his guts to the agency and started providing lots of info, like the noms de guerre of couriers and explaining how al-Qaida worked."


Mr Rodriguez said: "It's a mistake to say this was about inflicting pain. These measures were about instilling a sense of hopelessness and that led them to compliance."


A White House spokesman said the key intelligence had not come from torture, adding: "It's not fair to the scores of people who did this work over many years to suggest that this is
作者: tiffiant    時間: 2011-5-5 07:20


A Pakistani policeman keeps guard as women walk past the hideout house of slain Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad on May 5, 2011.
作者: fy789    時間: 2011-5-5 08:10

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作者: Lik    時間: 2011-5-5 09:53

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-力
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-5-5 10:47

分別係，老美濫用酷刑來對恐怖份子作嚴刑逼供，但中共卻係濫用酷刑來對維權律師高智晟、「三流藝術家」艾未 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-5-5 09:53

Do you have proof about your lies? Ai wei wei is probably enjoying nice food right now.

The nice and high class US superpower has violated international laws by torturing.
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-5-5 10:50

Lies?你條仆街自己唔睇報紙就唔該你咪撚出聲！

-力
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-5-5 10:51

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-5-5 10:58 編輯
Lies?你條仆街自己唔睇報紙就唔該你咪撚出聲！

-力
Lik 發表於 2011-5-5 10:50

Your US masters are not supposed to torture people.
You still can't deny the US has violated international laws.

Still you don't have proof about your lie, that is why you can't post anything to support your claims.
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-5-5 11:16

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-力
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-5-5 12:07

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-5-5 12:09 編輯
仆街，舔阿爺條Jer你就識，自己上網去search 吓啦～
（哎呀，好對唔住，你淨係用啲河蟹百度，搵鬼到有用嘅 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-5-5 11:16


Mr Lik, are you kidding here? This is just a video from Apple daily. As we all know, Apple daily does not have the proof at all.

You or any person could have produced such a video without solid evidence.

You are just trying to proof your unsubstantiated claims, by quoting from another unsubstantiated source.
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-5-5 12:33

預咗你條廢柴會咁講㗎啦～不如你學阿爺話埋89.64無死過人添啦～

正仆街～

-力
作者: peter236    時間: 2011-5-5 13:47

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-5-5 13:50 編輯
預咗你條廢柴會咁講㗎啦～不如你學阿爺話埋89.64無死過人添啦～

正仆街～

-力 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-5-5 12:33


hahaha, you are raging like a mad man again.
You are now trying to divert attention to something else, when you cannot give any proof.

Mr Lik, are you kidding here? This is just a video from Apple daily. As we all know, Apple daily does not have the proof at all.

You or any person could have produced such a video without solid evidence.

You are just trying to proof your unsubstantiated claims, by quoting from another unsubstantiated source.
作者: fy789    時間: 2011-5-5 13:56

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作者: Guy    時間: 2011-5-6 06:52

Torture... so what..

if you watched the movie "The Unthinkable", you will realize torture is just a part of human survival.



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