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作者: peter236 時間: 2011-6-12 21:39 標題: 台重申擁有南海主權

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-6-12 21:51 編輯

http://www.singtao.com/breakingnews/20110611e104510.asp

2011-06-11 (09:50)
中國與越南的南沙群島主權爭拗升級。越南軍方下周一將在越南中部沿海，展開歷時六個小時的實彈演習。另外，台灣的外交部再度重申擁有南海主權，不容置疑。

台外交部昨晚重申立場，強調無論就歷史、地理及國際法而言，南沙群島、西沙群島、中沙群島、東沙群島及其周遭水域，屬「中華民國」固有領土及水域，其主權屬於「中華民國」，不容置疑。任何國家無論以任何理由或方式予以主張或佔據，「中華民國」政府一概不予承認。

台外交部認為，相鄰南海各島礁的國家，應依據相關國際法的原則與精神處理議題，避免採取任何影響南海地區安定和平的單邊措施。

外交部重申，願秉持「主權在我、擱置爭議、和平互惠、共同開發」基本原則，與其他國家共同開發南海資源，同時呼籲相鄰南海各島礁的國家應自我約制，並透過協商對話，和平解決南海爭端，台灣願積極參與相關對話，共同促進區域和平穩定與發展。

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-6-12 21:43

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-6-12 21:46 編輯

It is interesting that Taiwan also claims these islands. If Taiwan sends warships to the Spratly Islands and the Vietnamese attack, will the US defend Taiwan based on their defence agreement?

Remember, the US is now siding with Vietnam against the Chinese.

Similarly, with regard to Diaoyu islands, will the US defend Taiwan against the Japadogs based on their defence agreement?

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-6-12 21:59

回復 2# peter236

If Vietnam attacks Taiwan warships in Spratly Islands, the answer is yes.
If Japan attacks Taiwan warships in Diaoyu Islands, the answer is no.

Hope you can distinguish they are basically 2 different stories...

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-6-12 23:03

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-6-12 23:20 編輯

回復 peter236

If Vietnam attacks Taiwan warships in Spratly Islands, the answer is yes.
If Japan ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-6-12 21:59

Would you please elaborate on your point?

The US has defensive agreements with both the Japadogs and Taiwan.
Both Japan and Taiwan are claiming the Diaoyu Islands.
Which side should the US side with?

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-6-12 23:08

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2011-6-12 23:09 編輯

回復 4# peter236

I think you should review the history about how Japan gets the warrant from the States for Diaoyu Island in 1973 (?)...

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-6-13 11:59

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I think you should review the history about how Japan gets the warrant from the Sta ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-6-12 23:08

Please elaborate here.

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-6-13 14:51

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2011-6-13 15:16 編輯

回復 6# peter236

Background ~ 1970-1973:
1) midst of cold war;
2) during US-Vietnam war;
3) Taiwan losing the representative status in UN;
4) Oil crisis

KMB/President Chiang has assigned the ruling authorization (not possession, very much like colonization except you are not sending your people to live there) of Diaoyu Islands to the US (under US direction) in exchange for the US to send their fleet policing Taiwan Strait to protect Taiwan from China PRC invasion. At the same time, based on Okinawa Reversion Treaty, US assigned the ruling authorization of Diaoyu Islands to Japan.

Outcome:

In international treaty, there's a common proviso stating that if one country in control of a place for over 50 years, under the consent of the local resident, that place will ultimately belong to the country in control. Thus, on the no man land of Diaoyu Islands, the longer the time, the more law enforcement Japan can seek from the international society. Japan has been relentlessly creating pre-existing facts in the period by sending fleets governing the seashore, technicans to setup lighthouse, and some troops to live on some of the islands. In comparison, it's so disappointed what have both PRC and Taiwan done these years.

Deadline: ~ 2018-2020

Right now you should know why China PLA has to setup their aircraft carrier fleet in this couple years in a hurry. There is no time to waste. Hopefully they can become a solid combating force in the area by 2015. Without them you are only battling US/Japan with saliva.

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-6-13 19:44

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-6-13 19:48 編輯

For the aircraft carrier, the Chinese had to wait for its weapons systems, warships and suitable planes to get ready for the past couple of years.

China did send fishing fleets and fisheries partrol boats to the Diaoyu Islands area.

It should be the ROC that should send its ships there now, since the Diaoyu Islands are historically under Taiwan province's jurisdiction. Also, this will force the US defend Diaoyu Islands against the Japadogs under the Taiwan defensive agreement.

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-6-13 19:49

回復 8# peter236

If I were you, I won't expect too much on the current Taiwan government. For them, it's already a joke to keep peace within the province. To deal with the Diaoyu Islands issue, it can only be the PRC/US game. Japadog is only the chess. They hope they can be a dominant factor...

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