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作者: Ovaltine 時間: 2011-10-6 03:47 標題: Overseas Chinese People: What Can We Do?

In this particular forum, many have been speaking against the social injustice in China. The government has been capable and effective economically, but we are looking for something more, something that will satisfy the 200 years of hardship and pain we endured through the modernization of China. Most of us are stuck with imitating Western ideals, the equality, freedom and integrity. Others feel there is nothing wrong with China, the Communist government is the best we are going to get. Some hope for change. But How?

As Overseas Chinese, the Chinese government do not have jurisdiction over us, we can criticize all we want. Hell, we can start a revolution if we'd liked. But that will be ineffective, we want to promote change for the Chinese society, something our grandchildren will look back at us and marvel about. I hope through this thread, LYK can reach a consensus on what we can do together to change for a cause.

PS: I am kinda tired of debating about who is better, China or Japan or America, it is so time-wasting. Just want to do something productive for a change.

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2011-10-6 09:49

why does anything need to change?

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-10-6 10:26

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2011-10-6 10:28 編輯

回復 2# 快樂牛郎

Change has 2 results - One, for sure, is improvement; On the other side, it's degradation.

Long time ago, I have reminded one friend of mine to have some changes. She thought there is no such reason to change as she thought/felt she's already "that" good (almost perfect in HER view). As time goes by, many friends left her including myself... Sad...

So, in general, when people talk about changes, it implies improvement.

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2011-10-6 10:30

Humans can get used to anything but they have the problem to be overly greedy. Once they think they can get anything they want, their insatiable appetite will keep growing without limit.

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-10-6 11:59

I am not a visionary nor a hero. As such, there is nothing game changing that I can do or even think of. The most important thing that I see is, Mainland Chinese and HK folks themselves need to see the failures of the CCP and SAR government and take action to change that. There is absolutely nothing we can do when they are the ones suffering, but continue to put up with all that crap. In other words, if they really don't mind eating shxt, there is nothing I can do from stopping them. Only they can help themselves.

In light of that, I can only hope that by repeatedly pointing out the failures of the CCP and HKSAR governments, enough people will at least recognize that 1) there are problems in the first place, and 2) the problems cannot continue. And yet we still have those mild tempered, mild manner idiots like MJJ in HK that oppose any sort of drastic (but non-violent) measures, and continue to believe in the Democratic Pigeon Party liars. And guys like Peter, FY, Rocky, Chunsh, Zoids are all beyond help...

-Lik

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-10-6 12:03

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-10-6 12:05 編輯

Mr Lik, you are just an anti-China self-hating basher. Why don't you just admit most western countries are going bankrupt now?

Hong Kong and China have been able to maintain their economic growth while the rest of the world is crumbling.

作者: sheep 時間: 2011-10-6 12:08

回復 6# peter236

do you think China and HK will still be able to maintain their economic growth if those western countries bankrupt?

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-10-6 12:16

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-10-6 12:18 編輯

回復 peter236

do you think China and HK will still be able to maintain their economic growth ...
sheep 發表於 2011-10-6 12:08

China's growth comes from China's own economic reforms and urbanization.
China can grow without the western countries doing well.

During the 1950's when China didn't grow much, the western countries and Japan could grow without China. Now China can grow when the western countries are in trouble.

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-10-6 13:01

China's growth comes from China's own economic reforms and urbanization.
China can grow without the western countries doing well.

During the 1950's when China didn't grow much, the western countries and Japan could grow without China. Now China can grow when the western countries are in trouble.
peter236 發表於 2011-10-6 12:16

睇完真係笑爆嘴～想唔送返呢張相俾你都唔撚得～

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2011-10-6 13:40

nice photo

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-10-6 14:26

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-10-6 14:28 編輯

睇完真係笑爆嘴～想唔送返呢張相俾你都唔撚得～
Lik 發表於 2011-10-6 13:01

I used this photo for you before. Why are you copying?

作者: zoids 時間: 2011-10-6 16:48

本帖最後由 zoids 於 2011-10-6 16:52 編輯

I am not a visionary nor a hero. As such, there is nothing game changing that I can do or even think ...
Lik 發表於 2011-10-6 11:59

Lik, don't worry.  No one ever consider you that.  You are just a troll, a hardline attention whore, a China basher.  This is just what you are.  Therefore no one ever expected you to use your brain to think of anything constructive... EVER.

As Chinese immigrants who left HK, there is not much we can do really.  Therefore Lik should go back to HK if he keeps spamming LYK with those biased articles and comments everyday.

Ovaltine:

This is totally wrong to me:
Most of us are stuck with imitating Western ideals, the equality, freedom and integrity. Others feel there is nothing wrong with China, the Communist government is the best we are going to get.

I say most of us are not stuck with imitating Western ideals, instead we just realize how double standards got applied to whatever countries the West are afraid of for whatever reasons.  People realize that the whole Western political culture is relying on fear and brainwashing and corruption and propaganda.  Not really different from the "Communists", "Dictatorshiops", etc they are "fighting" with.  Read 1984 agaiin, and reverse the famous quote: "Peace is War; Slavery is Freedom; Strength is Ignorance." Understand the true meaning of doublespeak again.  Instead of censorship, how about information overload that desensitise the public.  This is exactly what's going on at this side of the world.

Only sheeps such as Lik totally believe those western ideals blindly and not seeing the double standard.  Because they also use the same double standard to measure China, their homeland; a lot of us are fed up and now started to fight back Lik's spamming after years of taking it.

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-10-6 18:21

本帖最後由 Lik 於 2011-10-6 18:41 編輯

Fight back?來來去去咪又係得果幾隻走狗響度亂咁吠？你估你吠完之後阿爺會獎夠骨頭俾你咩？

快啲返去舔阿爺屎眼啦～

-力

作者: zoids 時間: 2011-10-6 18:28

Fight back?來來去去咪又係得果幾隻走狗響度亂咁吠？你估你吠完之後阿爺會獎夠骨頭俾咩？

快啲返去舔阿爺 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-10-6 18:21

You totally missed the point. LOL. I never wanted anything from China. How about you? Barking the same thing over and over and expect the result will be different.

Everyone can see who is the insane one here. Your quota is up, no more energy will be wasted on you in this thread.

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-10-6 18:47

老實講，年年月月日復日咁去diu柒阿爺同樣嘅事情：貪污、腐敗、面子工程、假大空、無人性、無人權、有毒乜、有毒物、肥上瘦下，你估我唔悶㗎？但我之可以年年月月日復日咁出埋啲同類型嘅post，就正正係因為同樣嘅事情不斷響天朝裡面發生完又發生。

個問題係響我度定係響阿爺度？如果天朝裡面嘅事唔係咁撚荒謬，我都唔使不聽將同樣嘅事講完又講。

-力

作者: peter236 時間: 2011-10-6 20:50

Fight back?來來去去咪又係得果幾隻走狗響度亂咁吠？你估你吠完之後阿爺會獎夠骨頭俾你咩？

快啲返去舔阿 ...
Lik 發表於 2011-10-6 18:21

How much did the British pay you for propaganda?

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-10-6 20:57

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作者: Lik 時間: 2011-10-6 21:12

In order to change China, you should walk that fat butt of yours out of the house.
Buy an air tic ...
fy789 發表於 2011-10-6 20:57

How many times do I need to tell you this? The country I call home is CANADA. Unlike certain hypocrites, I don't leech off this land and reap its government, national, and natural benefits while dissing Canada and praising the Heavenly Dynasty instead. If I have anything to give and contribute, I'd be giving them all to Canada. Why would I ever want to waste my efforts on stupid Grandfather?

On the other hand, since you and your gang just LOVE Grandfather so much, why aren't you packing your bags and heading back to your motherland? Why do you continue to live here when you clearly praise and prefer China instead?

Your action and your words are not just inconsistent with each other -- they are completely contradictory. That contradiction is the trademark of a hypocrite.

-Lik

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-10-6 21:17

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作者: Lik 時間: 2011-10-6 21:27

I am responding to Ovaltine's post, not you.
fy789 發表於 2011-10-6 21:17

Doesn't change the fact that you words and your actions are completely contradictory to each other. And that makes you a hypocrite.

Go home and serve Grandfather la, hypocrite~

-Lik

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-10-6 21:28

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作者: satil 時間: 2011-10-6 21:32

A mad dog barks at the wrong tree...........

I am responding to Ovaltine's post, not you. ...
fy789 發表於 2011-10-6 21:17

你學懂停嗎? 當你自己用multi-id, 時否你不斷話其他人用multi-id, 你就自動變為唔係?

你可以同大家正式說一次 Ribena & CALL-151 絕對不是你嗎?

作者: fy789 時間: 2011-10-6 21:52

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作者: fy789 時間: 2011-10-6 21:53

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作者: satil 時間: 2011-10-6 22:25

回復 24# fy789

唔止唔止... 咁少??!

作者: ricrick 時間: 2011-10-6 23:17

講真，中國人甘心做slave, 無人權，無自由，真係無事

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2011-10-7 01:18

mild tempered, mild manner idiots like MJJ
Lik 發表於 2011-10-7 03:59

好地地仲乜鬼要加埋 idiots 落去呢？．．．　

-- Stay Foolish MJJ

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2011-10-7 01:23

講真，中國人甘心做slave, 無人權，無自由，真係無事
ricrick 發表於 2011-10-7 15:17

慶幸既係看得出隨著人民教育程序既上升，中國人開始唔甘心了．

作者: ricrick 時間: 2011-10-7 08:03

本帖最後由 ricrick 於 2011-10-7 08:11 編輯

慶幸既係看得出隨著人民教育程序既上升，中國人開始唔甘心了．
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2011-10-7 01:23

但現在有錢大過天

作者: Ovaltine 時間: 2011-10-13 20:13

The thing I despise most about Chinese society is the persecution of intellectuals by the government. If they speak against the government, its called unpatriotic. Similar to what peter and fyi are doing on LYK

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