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作者: tiffiant 時間: 2011-10-20 06:47 標題: Gas prices expected to drop

Gas prices expected to dropAnalyst says taxation in Vancouver is a contributing factor to high gas pricesShelby Thom
Oct 19, 2011 16:38:58 PM

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - Gas prices usually drop after the summer, so why are Vancouverites still emptying their pockets at the pumps?

Petroleum industry analyst Jason Parent with the Kent group says prices are extremely high for this season.

"Normally gas prices fall off this time of year. That has to do with refiners margins decreasing, we come off the summer driving season and demand for fine product is down usually. Thus we have lower refining margins and lower wholesale prices which reflect retail prices."

Parent says crude oil prices have been fluctuating over the last month on a daily basis. He says prices depend on which direction they go.

The analyst says it's not likely we are going to see refining margins holding steady or increasing, so it is likely to see prices coming down.

Parent says taxation in Vancouver is a contributing factor to high gas prices.

"It plays a huge factor in why Vancouver's gas prices are higher than most other places in the country."

Metro Vancouver mayors have voted in favour of a two cents per litre gas tax hike to fund regional transit projects and service improvements. This will set the stage for a price jump at the pumps next spring.

作者: tiffiant 時間: 2011-10-20 06:48

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作者: fibbi 時間: 2011-10-20 08:47

I don't care now as i fill up in point Roberts all the time.

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-10-20 08:49

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2011-10-20 09:01 編輯

回復 3# fibbi

How much do you save each time? Even if you reside in Richmond, back and forth costs you about $4.0 + travel time. So I guess about $10 savings on a compact car...

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-10-20 09:05

回復 fibbi

How much do you save each time?
lo_pak 發表於 2011-10-20 08:49

I ran some calculations a while back, and it turned out that taking the credit card 2.5% premium, gas price difference, and the amount of gas I used going down and coming home into account, I can only save $3 - $4 if I go with a nearly completely empty tank (with the low gas warning light coming on and 5 - 7 L's worth of gas remaining in the tank). This does not take into account the amount of time I need to drive down and back, nor does it take into account the miniscule amount of wear and tear on the car from the drive. Additionally, I only go late in the evening when there is at most a 5 or 6 car wait. If the line up is long, I waste more gas idling.

Unless the requirements are all met by coincidence (I'm in south Richmond / Delta, tank is nearly empty, it's late in the evening, etc.), I don't bother going down to PR specifically to fill up.

-Lik

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2011-10-20 09:15

本帖最後由快樂牛郎於 2011-10-20 09:17 編輯

Not only the savings is minimal, you are wasting gas and releasing more pollution for no cause. It's funny that at the end of the day the only things all the righteous people with high morals see is money and wear on their cars.

I wish they could make gas $20 per L. The true cost of gas is way more than that dollar you pay.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2011-10-20 09:47

本帖最後由 fibbi 於 2011-10-20 09:48 編輯

I worked in south Richmond, just off the tunnel. For me, 20km one way. 40km round trip to Point Roberts. That's about $5 gas.
I fill up 55L, $1.22 premium gas in PR vs $1.50 here. Approx. save $10 per tank. A month save about $20-$30 for one car. Two cars save about $50-$60 per month. A year = $600-$700, almost enough for a HK flight ticket.
I have NEXUS so wait time is minimal. I can come back within an hour.
Making more pollution? Yes. But with a new born, saving comes first.

But of course if I live in Burnaby, I won't bother doing that.

作者: Lik 時間: 2011-10-20 09:57

There is your problem right there -- your conditions are quite similar to mine, and I'd say you aren't really saving nearly as much money as you think, esp when you need to sink an hour for each fill up.

So you save $10 per tank, but the round trip already eliminates $5 out of that. Add the 2.5% currency exchange premium, the wear and tear on the car, and most importantly, the extra hour you need for the trip. How much is that extra hour each week worth to you? In the absolute lowest denominator case, minimum wage is $10/hr. To me at least, that $5 you save is not worth it, esp when you have a newborn.

Of course, the choice is always yours.

-Lik

作者: fibbi 時間: 2011-10-20 10:05

回復 8# Lik

No I mean $10 net saving after the gas to PR. Btw, I have US visa card, so no exchange rate premium.

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2011-10-20 10:10

you can easily make more than $10 by working just a few minutes a day.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2011-10-20 10:14

其實又或者咁講，女仔買衫買鞋買手袋化妝品都可以好疏爽，但係有啲嘢叫小數怕長計。

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2011-10-20 11:58

但係有啲嘢叫小數怕長計。fibbi 發表於 2011/10/20 10:14

this should be applied to global warming or world pollution
not how much money you can save

you can't bring money to grave
so might as well spend it

作者: Look4chrisng 時間: 2011-10-20 13:24

回復 12# 快樂牛郎

Fibbi has a new baby ma. Diapers, formula, RESP all add up ma.

Congratulations for being a new mother. (still have time to LYK?)

作者: yokult 時間: 2011-10-20 13:42

Who cares about population. We are just little citizen. =)
It's the government's job to ensure better transit, so people don't even have to drive.

作者: chunsh 時間: 2011-10-20 13:45

Who cares about population. We are just little citizen. =)
It's the government's job to ensure bette ...
yokult 發表於 2011-10-20 13:42

so damn right

作者: ricrick 時間: 2011-10-20 14:30

i usually go with empty tank and bring 40L gas container to fill up another car at home
also, milk, eggs, beer and ice-cream are cheaper down there. i save about $20 for a round trip

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2011-10-20 14:38

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2011-10-20 14:43 編輯

回復 16# ricrick

Only if filling your tank is not your sole purpose...

.

It just doesn't seem right to me to drive 50 hours more per year to save on the gas difference unless the time waste can cut 2/3.

Or, put it this way, you can choose car pooling with friends in order you can save the difference (300-400 km/month).

作者: ricrick 時間: 2011-10-20 14:55

本帖最後由 ricrick 於 2011-10-20 14:57 編輯

回復 ricrick

Only if filling your tank is not your sole purpose... .

It just doesn't se ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-10-20 14:38

i live in richmond, are u?
if u go on sunday afternoon, there is no line up at all. a round trip can be as short as 30mins
i have nothing to do on sunday anyways
ofcos, filling for only 1 car is not worth going

作者: Look4chrisng 時間: 2011-10-20 15:21

回復 16# ricrick

I think 2x do to carry another 40L gas in a container and in the truck.

If your car get rear-ended, it will be very ugly. And ICBC is likely to void your insurance. Not worth it for $20, or $2000.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2011-10-20 15:24

this should be applied to global warming or world pollution
not how much money you can save

you c ...
快樂牛郎發表於 2011-10-20 11:58

咁人係無完美嘅。有幾多人踩單車唔開車返工？有幾多人買咖啡帶埋自己個杯？有幾多人唔飲樽裝水？有幾多人屋企有composite box？咁一方面無咁環保，咪第二方面做多啲囉。頭先我行咗成個鐘去超級市場，趁好天氣就唔開車。
同埋我去point roberts通常都有嘢pickup嘅。好少靜係去入油。

作者: ricrick 時間: 2011-10-20 15:41

回復 ricrick

I think 2x do to carry another 40L gas in a container and in the truck.

If your ca ...
Look4chrisng 發表於 2011-10-20 15:21

agree, you have your point

作者: fibbi 時間: 2011-10-20 16:00

回復 13# Look4chrisng

Thank you. When bb sleeps I have time to do other things.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2011-10-20 21:05

回復 17# lo_pak

btw, for carpool you have to find the right person (live closeby) and in the right time (go to work at the same time), which is not easy la.

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