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作者: alonso    時間: 2011-11-13 00:13     標題: 誠徵對汽車有認識的師兄

0系 vancouver craigslist 度找到3 架似樣D 既 Honda Fit. 07-09 年, under 100000 km, 無意外, 9500-11000
由於第一次買車和對汽車認識不深。希望有師兄可以幫忙驗一驗車, 酬勞方面可以PM 傾。
希望各位師兄可以幫幫忙
感謝
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-11-13 01:30

Considering the mileage, that price range seems a little low to me if they are only the asking price because that's almost where the CBB trade in values are at. I'd be a little cautious / suspicious when I am looking at those cars.

If you are planning to buy, I'd really recommend you to hire a qualified mechanic to do a proper used car inspection. Make sure you ask him to perform at least a compression test (and preferably also a leak down test if the compression test results are ok) because that would give you an idea about the current health of the engine.

But since mechanics costs $$ to hire, what I would suggest is that you should check the cars out yourself first, test drive them, and only ask for the mechanic to come inspect them if you think those cars are worthy enough for your consideration. When I was looking for my pos, a lot of times I just knew from the test drive that the car is not worth considering because she just doesn't drive right. Perhaps the engine isn't smooth, it feels sluggish and doesn't want to rev, the throttle response is poor, the transmission doesn't shift well, the car rides like crap, etc. If you pay attention to the car's feedback, a lot of times it isn't that hard to recognize when something is not right.

Good luck with your car hunting la~

-Lik
作者: pkphilip    時間: 2011-11-16 00:07

It's difficult to "feel" the car if you don't know how to. I think it's best to find a friend who drives a Fit or someone who knows cars mechanically to be with you and test drive it.

If you are out of options, you can go to any Honda dealer to test drive a new one. That way, you know how a Fit will sound, feel like when you are doing what Lik suggested.

What kind of car you are coming from? The reason I ask is, say if you are used to a V6, all I4 cars feels crappy because you are used to the extra torque etc...

Philip
作者: shoparound    時間: 2011-11-16 08:47

Sorry, a little bit off topic.

If I am looking for a car, is it possible to find out the estimated insurance per year?
作者: Quest    時間: 2011-11-16 09:31

Your best bet is to bring a list of cars you have in your mind with your current insurance policy paper to any ICBC agent, sit down and have a chat with them to find out approx. how much the cost would be.

Q.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2011-11-16 10:32

Or get a new hyundai accent with warranty.
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-11-16 10:40

Or get a new hyundai accent with warranty.
ACC-HE 發表於 2011-11-16 10:32

Good luck finding a base model Hyundai Accent. You're better off looking for a Mazda2 GX (base model) instead.

-Lik
作者: alonso    時間: 2011-11-16 21:05

多謝大家回覆。
我仲想問問tiptronic transmission 有乜好處或壞處呢?
保養或維修會否比一般automatic 貴?
Thanks
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-11-16 22:41

Unless it's a dual clutch transmission (not very many cars have those yet), a tiptronic transmission is usually no different than other regular torque-converter based transmission. It usually just means there is a manual mode available for you to choose your own gears, but even then, the ECU might upshift / downshift for you.

-Lik
作者: satil    時間: 2011-11-16 22:56

本帖最後由 satil 於 2011-11-16 23:03 編輯

tiptronic 基本上都是 '自動波', 一般自動波由電腦控制最合適的engine rpm, 及波段, 但tiptronic是加潻了可以 '人手' 控制電腦去(在容許範圍內)加減波. 這對日常攞架車代步的人來說是多餘的. 只會有玩車心態的人有用, 有一點手波車的控制, 但沒有多隻左腳要控制離合器的問題, 你可以玩收油拖波, 減波加油扒頭.

但tiptronic主要是多了一組電腦程序, 給你可以加減波段, 至於反應的速度由不同的設定影響, 例如, sport車的tiptronic會0.2秒以下轉波, 而房車可能慢至一秒. 又例如在容許的engine RPM及波段的變化都有不同程式的設定, 甚至在房車來說, 你要求加兩波, 系統可能只反應一次, 因為它認為RPM太低, 可能會死火. 由於所有都受限制, 你根本不會有如'手動波' 的掃牙, 燒離合器等間題.

我由2000年以用tiptronic, 三年後, 因覺得其反應慢, 在2004換車時, 就由third party改咗tiptronic個條program, 變做sport反應, happy多了. 2010轉新車才沒有用tiptronic.

我沒有發現有任何特別的維修及保養, 因其與普通的'自動波'機械上沒有太大的分別. 但很多時間, 你是忘記在tiptronic mode, 在開車起步時, 太長時間在1波, 到你發現時, RPM可能已5-6000. 浪費油.

不過前兩年, 我已轉玩DSG, 動力反應比tiptronic好很多. 不過我可以話, 大部份tiptronic的owner都是D mode用家, 重未放過去tip + - 來用.
作者: spoonek4    時間: 2011-11-16 23:02

阿LIK俾既意見幾好,你係想搵棍波定自動波既FIT﹖SPORT型號定係base?
作者: B2L2    時間: 2011-11-17 11:07

For 07-09 Fit, only the sport model has tiptronic.  The base model has the normal auto gearbox.  The sport model has 5 gears while the base model has less (4, I think?)

I have the sport model and I used +/- quite often.  My wife never touch the pedals.  The Fit's pedal shifter is behind the steering wheel.  You don't have to put it into S-mode to use them.  In normal D-mode, you could also use the - to do temporary downshift.  S-mode will require you to do all the + and -.  I seldom drive on S-mode like many tiptronic drivers unless I know I will be driving onto Sea-to-sky (or on snow since S-mode is the only way to do a 2nd gear start).
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-11-17 12:15

啲 friend 好多個都話 Honda 個自動波箱渣渣地,通常過咗 100k km 之後轉波 gear slip 就會開始來料。一開始只係 slip 少少,但整吓整吓就會越來越嚴重,最後就當然係要換波箱或者 rebuilt transmission。

你波箱油換得勤啲,問題會無咁早出現,但換波箱油呢家野,唔係新車果陣已經諗住長 keep,車主多數都唔會做。

不過話返轉頭,Honda車行開行埋 150k-200k 嘅,其實通街到係。自動波箱呢個問題,我其實又唔係真係好知道有幾嚴重...

-力
作者: alonso    時間: 2011-11-18 23:33

又見到有兩架sport 放緊,兩架都係07 年,行唔夠10 萬, 價錢都唔過10000。
其實拎去車房check check, 有乜現在/潛在問題都會凊楚晒?
作者: Lik    時間: 2011-11-19 12:59

A mechanic won't be able to tell you every problem that the car has, but he will notice a heck of a lot more than you do.

The obvious things include the quality of collision repair, engine condition, components wear and tear (belts, wheel bearings, CV joints, boots). A mechanic familiar Hondas / Fits should also be able to tell you problems that are common to that car.

-Lik




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