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作者: 閒人一個 時間: 2012-2-1 09:27 標題: 香港人忍夠了 vs 大陸人接受了 -- 一笑

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0華! 每18分鐘一百萬?! 292億?!!! 仲每日增長緊!

想唔到0甘快就有死撐, 真好笑

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-2-1 09:47

Where can we find firefighters?

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-2-1 09:51

喂，係就快！
一大批黑錢馬上充公，夠七百萬人每人派一有多!！

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-2-1 10:00

邊個話香港要用大陸電？？
亂九咁噏！

作者: blue20ae 時間: 2012-2-1 10:12

Who is paying who??

東江水三年掠多18億

發展局與廣東省當局達成未來三年東江水供水協議，每年由三十五億遞增至三十九億多元，每年增幅近百分之六，反映了粵港兩地通脹率及人民幣升值因素。新協議總值一百一十二億元，比起舊協議的九十四億元，足足多了近十八億元，按每年實際耗用量付款，亦因港方無法確實告知粵方每年所需供水量而泡湯，但發展局表示無計劃加水費。立法會議員認為東江水加幅高，批評曾蔭權無為本港與粵方討價還價，「香港完全無議價能力，惟有被㩒住搶！」

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-2-1 10:13

本帖最後由 imvitasoy 於 2012-2-1 10:17 編輯

(1) 中國賣水到香港的價格，是以每4540升2.1美元的價錢，相對新加坡從馬來西亞購買的淡水，他們的價格是每4540升0.8美分，中國賣水給香港，價錢差不多是馬來西亞向新加坡的262倍。

(2) 大亞灣核電站引入香港的供電商中電參股，透過子公司香港核電投資有限公司持股，並將所發電力的大部分售予香港。即是話，搵香港人出錢出技術，然後賣返產品給自己。

大陸佬，從來無死錯人。

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-2-1 10:21

唔好傻啦!香港自己有青山發電廠，竹篙灣燃氣輪機發電廠，龍鼓灘發電廠，南丫發電廠 - 南丫風采發電站！

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-2-1 10:29

香港仲會賣電上廣州添!

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-2-1 13:02

唔好傻啦!香港自己有青山發電廠，竹篙灣燃氣輪機發電廠，龍鼓灘發電廠，南丫發電廠 - 南丫風采發電站！ ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2012-2-1 10:21

Of course the natural gas for 竹篙灣燃氣輪機發電廠 comes from China's natural gas field in the nearby South China Sea.

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-2-1 13:03

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-2-1 13:06 編輯

If this goes on HK maybe in an unstable condition. If favorable policies, water, electricity supply to HK is cut, HK will just become a desert like Dubai, except that HK does not have any oil.

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2012-2-1 13:06

fun fun

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-2-1 13:16

fun fun
快樂牛郎發表於 2012-2-1 13:06

just pure fun.

作者: blue20ae 時間: 2012-2-1 14:53

油？大陸自己都唔掂啦，要同加拿大買。台灣，日本，新加坡都無天然資源架啦。個個都係用油船入storage 啦.

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-2-1 15:33

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-2-1 15:45 編輯

It is not that HK can't buy oil. HK will have problems generating cash for buying oil.

Dubai is in a desert, but they can sell oil to make money and then buy other things.
HK can't sell oil to make money.
Once the food, water, electricity supply and favorably financial policies are cut, HK is like a desert with no natural resources to sell.

作者: 閒人一個 時間: 2012-2-1 16:02

本帖最後由閒人一個於 2012-2-1 16:15 編輯

食物, 大陸的又毒又假, 唔買, 可以同其他地方買, 起碼可以安心0咼.
水, 咁污染, 自己做海水化淡仲平, 仲潔淨. (新加坡就有好例子)
電, 兩電基本建設超量, 多到可以外銷電力, 入股大丫灣是為監察權.

金融, 我只記得大陸來香港賣人民幣債券.
港商在大陸開三萬廠, 僱1000萬人. 把香港玩具鐘錶世界第一轉移給大陸.
大陸來香港上市, 數以十萬億計的資金由港人出. 港股大陸上市就大隻講咗十年.
天災香港向大陸捐, 數以千億計.
大陸人去香港消費450億(2010), 香港人北上消費690億.

食, 水, 電是香港真金白銀買的, 不是大陸送.

大陸益緊香港??? !!!

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-2-1 16:15

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-2-1 16:31 編輯

兩電基本建設超量, 我們多到可以外銷
閒人一個發表於 2012-2-1 16:02

I am not sure who is going buy electricity from HK. Maybe Macau, LOL.

金融, 我只記得大陸來香港賣人民幣債券.

Currently a lot of big Chinese companies are listed in HK stock exchange. But many of them are also listed in Shanghai and New York. They can easily delist from Hong Kong stock exchange. Imagine if that happens, the financial sector of HK will be greatly affected.

大陸來香港上市, 數以十萬億計的資金由港人出

You need to do the math again rather than throwing out random numbers.
HK money is simply not sufficient to affect big Chinese companies which are among the largest in the world in terms of market capitalization. Most of the stocks transactions in Hong Kong are from mainland China investors and foreigners anyway.

大陸人去香港消費450億(2010), 香港人北上消費690億.

They can easily further develop the big airports in Guangzhou and Shenzhen so that all transit traffic from China goes through them instead of Hong Kong. If that happens, HK airport will be greatly affected.

In addition, Chinese factory products can be exported from the container ports in Guangzhou and Shenzhen, instead of HK. If that happens, HK container ports will be greatly affected.

We are talking about the pillars of HK economy being affected here, airport, container ports, stock exchange, tourism etc.

作者: 閒人一個 時間: 2012-2-1 16:26

乜你咁孤陋寡聞 , 0矣!

香港也向內地售電。在二零零五年，中電根據與廣東省當局簽訂的合約，向廣東省出售4 497千兆瓦小時電力，相等於中電總銷售量的13.2%。售電的利潤，有80%回饋中電的香港用戶。

LOL

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-2-1 16:45

回復 16# peter236

Your premises are all correct... only if you are talking about a true liberal China. HK is just a piece of cake.

As long as CCP is ruling China, that won't happen... HK is still playing a big role in providing security to fundings.

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-2-1 16:58

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-2-1 16:59 編輯

乜你咁孤陋寡聞 , 0矣!

香港也向內地售電。在二零零五年，中電根據與廣東省當局簽訂的合約，向廣東省出售4 ...
閒人一個發表於 2012-2-1 16:26

I am not sure why, some people said Hong Kong does not benefit from selling electricity to China. Now you are saying Hong Kong does sell electricity to China.

But then, if we assume HK cuts all trading links with China, why would HK want to sell any electricity to China, a place that they hate. If that happens who else will buy electricity from HK?

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-2-1 17:01

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-2-1 17:05 編輯

回復 peter236

Your premises are all correct... only if you are talking about a true liberal China. HK is just a piece of cake.

As long as CCP is ruling China, that won't happen... HK is still playing a big role in providing security to fundings.
lo_pak 發表於 2012-2-1 16:45

No, the reverse is true. Just because the CCP is in charge, they can give all the favorable policies to Hong Kong (even if HK hates China), without worrying about all other parts of China's 1.3 billion people complaining why the central government cater to HK which is already rich.

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-2-1 17:17

啲logic好神奇.....我地既意思係，你咪cut電～我地咪至多唔賣電上大陸自己用番，你咪唔好賣天然氣黎香港，台灣都有大把～～～～你唔賣，自然有人會賣。

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-2-1 17:24

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-2-1 17:28 編輯

啲logic好神奇.....我地既意思係，你咪cut電～我地咪至多唔賣電上大陸自己用番，你咪唔好賣天然氣黎香港， ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2012-2-1 17:17

In this hypothetical case, they can also delist big Chinese companies from Hong Kong stock exchange. They are listed in New York already.

Like I said before, they can easily further develop the big airports in Guangzhou and Shenzhen so that all transit traffic from China goes through them instead of Hong Kong.

Chinese factory products can be exported from the container ports in Guangzhou and Shenzhen, instead of HK.

The pillars of HK economy are being affected here, airport, container ports, stock exchange, tourism etc.

HK will have a hard time competing with so many big mainland cities.

Of course, they will not do that.

作者: rainbow-davie 時間: 2012-2-1 17:37

let's build a nuclear plant in Central HK, or the Peak.

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-2-1 17:43

go ahead, you just don't know how despair mainland ppl want to laundry their money in HK

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2012-2-1 18:24

啲logic好神奇.....我地既意思係，你咪cut電～我地咪至多唔賣電上大陸自己用番，你咪唔好賣天然氣黎香港， ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2012-2-2 09:17

麻煩幫手諗埋食水...
莫非要重開海水化淡廠?

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2012-2-1 18:25

let's build a nuclear plant in Central HK, or the Peak.
rainbow-davie 發表於 2012-2-2 09:37

唔講你唔知, 傳聞太平山地底有一個全球最大既核聚變發電廠的. 哈哈!

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-2-1 18:25

係，日本同以色列有平既海水化淡枝術，好過飲東江屍水。

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2012-2-1 18:41

係，日本同以色列有平既海水化淡枝術，好過飲東江屍水。
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2012-2-2 10:25

平? 又好似幾好咁woh. 唔知會唔會對環境造成污染呢?

作者: jiujiujiu 時間: 2012-2-1 19:44

話時話, 97之後阿爺俾過D咩香港人呢? 有!
1. 黑心食品, 毒奶粉, 食死人無命賠!

2. 醫療廢料做sofa

3. 侵佔廣東道

4. 有錢個D就買貴晒D車, 樓, 名牌....

無錢個D就拿晒D綜緩

無論有無錢都霸晒生仔D床位, 仲準備將來拿埋D福利!

5. 強國人民仲會用童子尿灌溉我地港鐵車站車廂

所以, 我地強大, 偉大個祖國俾過D咩好野過香港人呢.....

作者: blue20ae 時間: 2012-2-1 21:17

In this hypothetical case, they can also delist big Chinese companies from Hong Kong stock exchange. They are listed in New York already.
....
peter236 發表於 2012-2-1 17:24

To quote imvitasoy, 唔識比你嚇死，識比你笑死.

Do you know what delist will do to a company's value? I totally dare them to delist from HK. There are way more Chinese companies listed in HK than in the US. US has SOX, not that many company can satisfy all their requirements. Even Porsche had to pull their plan to list in the US. Remember Sinoforest? They had to use Canadian shell company to get funding. Yeah right, delist from HK. go ahead.

作者: satil 時間: 2012-2-1 22:01

OTC pink 囉, 都係美國上市.... hehehehe

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-2-2 01:32

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-2-2 01:50 編輯

To quote imvitasoy, 唔識比你嚇死，識比你笑死.

Do you know what delist will do to a company's valu ...
blue20ae 發表於 2012-2-1 21:17

It is really not as simple as just cutting water, electricity and food supply, like what that stupid professor said.

As China's economy expands rapidly, more and more companies will be listed in Shanghai, New York and even Singapore, instead of Hong Kong.
Let's look at how the financial pillar of HK will be affected. The stock exchange, the accountants, lawyers, and stock brokers etc will be affected greatly. HK simply depends on Chinese IPOs. Singapore is more than happy to get all that business.

For example, Baidu.com is listed in the US only, but not in Hong Kong.

Just imagine the likes of China Mobile, China Life, Petrol China etc moving over to Singapore stock exchange, HK's rival.
These companies are already listed in Shanghai and New York. Singapore would welcome all that business.

Now let's look at how the tourism sector of HK will be affected.
China can revoke the landing rights of Cathay Pacific/Dragon Air planes in all Chinese airports. As we all know, China is the second largest air travel market in the world. All Chinese passengers will then go through the major gateways of Guangzhou and Shenzhen airports to other destinations. If that happens, HK airport, hotels, Disney, Ocean Park, and retail will be greatly affected.

Chinese factory products can be exported from the container ports in Guangzhou and Shenzhen, instead of HK.

作者: chobit 時間: 2012-2-2 21:56

If that happen, we'll rent ourselves to the US?

It is really not as simple as just cutting water, electricity and food supply, like what that stup ...
peter236 發表於 2012-2-2 01:32

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-2-3 02:21

本帖最後由 imvitasoy 於 2012-2-3 02:44 編輯

皮蛋仔，睇問題成熟小小得得？個世界如果係咁簡單，就唔會有咁多變化。
睇你平時都有留意下新聞，點睇歐債問題？
中港問題同歐債問題有一個小小共通處，歐債係族裔同政治問題既混合。如果單一簡單睇，德國佬使鬼同歐豬籌謀？希臘愛爾蘭西班牙佢死佢賤啦~
大陸同香港未必算有族裔問題，但肯定有山頭分割問題，中南海幾多派系山頭？江朱李胡溫集嘅仔仔女女在香港控制幾多間公司？佢哋的老婆外家情人們，又控制幾多生意？風吹草動，香港人暴動佢哋唔會有事，還可以騎騎笑添，但是佢哋個仔女老婆情人政敵，就隨時會囉佢命，每年經香港進出中國同世界嘅敏感貨品有幾多 (有年搜出逼擊炮)，香港咁多國企，九成在香港炒地，股市更是洗錢+ cap水最佳游泳池，皮蛋仔你似乎都有留意財經新聞，上年年尾連1618 大陸中冶，扑街做鍊金嘅，都在香港炒樓，大陸國企已經達到認錢唔認人嘅階段。傍邊好多唔同派金睛火眼，想玩嘢無咁易，咁多派系分哂山頭餅仔，牽一髮動全身，講數都有排講。在大陸佬眼中，香港係個筍盤，有人揸莊，但未有人敢插旗，呢點係香港比北京上海有吸引力嘅地方，中南海係極權，但唔係老襯，皮蛋仔你明唔明？ ....... 講都講唔盡，唔講啦。

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-2-3 04:00

皮蛋仔，睇問題成熟小小得得？個世界如果係咁簡單，就唔會有咁多變化。
睇你平時都有留意下新聞，點睇歐債 ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-2-3 02:21

Hong Kong economy is just way to small compared with China's economy.

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-2-3 04:06

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-2-3 04:11 編輯

皮蛋仔，睇問題成熟小小得得？個世界如果係咁簡單，就唔會有咁多變化。
睇你平時都有留意下新聞，點睇歐債 ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-2-3 02:21

Hong Kong's economy is just a very small pond for the big Chinese companies.
In our hypothetical scenario, the Chinese have so many levers that they can pull, just to squeeze out Hong Kong easily.
HK people should realize that they depend much more on the mainland than they think. It is not as simple as water or food supply. The sooner they realize, the more advantageous.

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-2-3 04:57

本帖最後由 imvitasoy 於 2012-2-3 05:06 編輯

回復 36# peter236

(1) 太細？睇你點睇，正如在下講過，一年迪迪尼，一年振災，一年高鐵，一年機場擴建，一年河套，周而復始，都咪話唔和味。爛船還有三斤釘，何況對中國來說，香港未到爛船階段，香港中小企五癆七傷，但是仍然養活華南一千萬打工仔。
(2) squeeze out 香港？無錯係好容易，但係蠢到加另一嘅人先會咁做。你講嘅情況，不是完全沒可能，而是共產內鬥到超白熱化才會發生，機會有幾大？我唔知道，當然，中國歷史上唔少蠢人，例如毛澤東，四人幫......不過到時死嘅恐怕唔只香港一個。
(3) 香港人一早已經知道，否則唔會媽媽聲，家陣問題是香港政府同大陸打龍通。大陸佬一向唔會對香港有情，只因為香港價值雖然正在急速消磨，但仍然有肉 ..... 得閑先講呢個啦，瞓覺啦，

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-2-3 14:07

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-2-3 14:18 編輯

回復 peter236

(1) 太細？睇你點睇，正如在下講過，一年迪迪尼，一年振災，一年高鐵，一年機場擴建，一 ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-2-3 04:57

I don't see how Chinese companies benefit greatly from " 一年高鐵，一年機場擴建".
All these contracts are awarded to various international, Hong Kong and some Chinese companies.
I think I posted linked proving this already. Perhaps you misssed it.

For example:
L.A. Firm Wins Design Contract for $2B Underground High-Speed Rail Terminus in Hong Kong

http://www.worldpropertychannel. ... ay-corp-ltd-957.php

Hong Kong Express rail link contracts awarded.
http://www.expressraillink.hk/en ... tracts-awarded.html

As we can see, the contracts of Hong Kong's express rail link are awarded to various foreign, Hong Kong, and Chinese companies, not just Chinese companies.

Hong Kong constructions mainly benefit local Hong Kong workers and imported workers from South East Asia.

But in any case, the scale of infrastructure projects in China are way bigger than those in Hong Kong.
Just Shenzhen alone has more infrastructure projects (railways, subways, airport buildings) going on than in Hong Kong, LOL.

迪迪尼

As they are now building a much bigger Disney in Shanghai, they don't need to go to Hong Kong's, LOL.

香港中小企

HK factories were making textiles and toys 30 yrs ago. Now they are still making textiles and toys.
They need to move up the value chain themselves, like those in Taiwan and Korea.

但係蠢到加另一嘅人先會咁做

Of course they are not going to squeeze out HK. But HK people need to realize their position. They are more dependent on China than they think.

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-2-3 15:13

用 PR 數據去做substantiation? 殺死人無命賠喎~ 似乎你間學校認真油麻地。
扑街咯，在下犯左大錯，同你認真就輸, 講完。

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-2-3 15:59

用 PR 數據去做substantiation? 殺死人無命賠喎~ 似乎你間學校認真油麻地。
扑街咯，在下犯左大錯，同 ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-2-3 15:13

In other words, you can't provide your proof for substantiation?

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-2-3 17:17

本帖最後由 imvitasoy 於 2012-2-3 17:21 編輯

高鐵工程外判比外國公司？你一定覺得好驕傲，搵到呢頁數據。本來無興趣同你講，但是再三估計，講你也未必會明白，OK，咁我講一次無妨，目的唔係比你睇，因為你只是9up。
在下唔清楚加拿大大學既經濟學是屬於邊個school, 在香港，接受過經濟學一年級以上嘅訓練，基本上都學過下點樣interpret資料，你拿出來嘅全部是PR 數據，稍為有小小工作經驗，都知道PR 數據信三成都嫌多。然則，你的數據造假？當然不是。
提議你去香港打個轉做吓實證考察，睇下D工程地盤。汀九公路段填海，地盤扯起幾十呎高banner，大字禮頓金門，但是下面路邊圍欄是中國建設。呢種情況見怪不怪，而且非常正常。引用PR 數據是無問題，問題出於眼睛看不清背後的意思，就大鑊。
你的確把書讀死了。法國公司中標，法國人當然有錢落袋，但是你估計the biggest slice of the pie, 是不去去了法國人袋？基建不同apple 做 iphone, 基建需要大量人力物力，何來？法國工人法國水泥運來香港？德昌，泰升，Bachy, 無錯不是大陸公司，但其實佢哋身分是大判，判上判到最後，荷包兜肚，於是出現汀九公路既 “'扯旗日德法，紮馬中建設" 盛況。PR 數據永遠是亮麗的，而你嘅數據也是一樣，完美，但不合理。無興趣解釋咁多，你真系去HKU 惡補下好喎。不過HKU 收唔收你就非常之難講。
用PR 數據轉移視線，刻意徊避香港點解要起高鐵。 26 kilometer 是幾遠？ Steveston 去Metrotown 是也，即是Hwy 踩十五分鐘就踩完。瘋葉國如果話要360 億起條高鐵從Steveston 去Metrotown，恐怕瘋葉佬會暴動。

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-2-3 17:25

桃，任何一間中標，都係要判九番俾中資做，水泥鋼根又「指定商」買，你估呀爺會死錯人!

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-2-3 17:33

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-2-3 17:41 編輯

高鐵工程外判比外國公司？你一定覺得好驕傲，搵到呢頁數據。本來無興趣同你講，但是再三估計，講你也未必 ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-2-3 17:17

You keep on talking and taking, still you don't have proof for anything.
The point here is that, the contracts are awarded to various local and foreign companies.
The foreign companies take some profits, and the local workers take some. In the construction business, contracts are split into many subcontracts, this is just normal. Everyone take a cut and can benefit.

We do not know which company makes more. Usually the contractor at the top makes the most. But somehow you would rather see a French company makes more, than a Chinese company makes more. This is just self-discriminatory logic.

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-2-3 17:37

回復 43# peter236

拗頸，係無用嘅。

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-2-3 17:40

回復 peter236

拗頸，係無用嘅。
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-2-3 17:37

hope you can understand this.

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-2-3 17:44

hope you can understand this.
peter236 發表於 2012-2-3 17:40

呢度好似只你一個唔明

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-2-3 17:47

吓？？？唔好玩啦，正常係大判賺，呢個case，中標個份標書啲餅仔分得好啲先會中架!你估真係最平最好中呀？

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-2-3 17:55

本帖最後由 imvitasoy 於 2012-2-3 17:58 編輯

吓？？？唔好玩啦，正常係大判賺，呢個case，中標個份標書啲餅仔分得好啲先會中架!你估真係最平最好中呀？ ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2012-2-3 17:47

大判當然有賺，基建唔係三房一廳裝修，水泥人力落樁機械條數，非常巨大，邊度來？分餅仔當然要分得好，不過肯定的是，單是作為 "catering" , 提供人力物資，背後有人從中cap 唔少。外國公司只會賺design ＆監工費，係咁多。

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-2-3 17:59

工程界真係由上到下都cap水cap到天昏地暗。

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-2-3 18:03

工程界真係由上到下都cap水cap到天昏地暗。
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2012-2-3 17:59

一條樁，打短幾呎，可以差幾十萬，水位好得人驚。

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-2-4 01:52

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2012-2-4 02:19 編輯

回復 50# imvitasoy

一條樁，短幾呎，幾十萬, too much la... it may be the "extreme" case, but certainly not normal... For extreme case, it must be "executed" by the very "professional"... which means, they all know what they are doing, and they all know what would happen, and they all know what wouldn't happen... Unless, they are "stupid"...
十幾萬, more realistic...
Approaching the maximum cost efficiency without sacrifying safety is the art of profit generation in "construction"...
In Asia, they don't need the best engineer, what they need is the "best" project manager... And the "best" means cost efficient...

作者: kingkong123 時間: 2012-2-4 22:53

十几年前回归前就预计到有今日甘的田地的啦，一D 都唔出奇

一国两制的产物，没得救

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-2-5 03:45

本帖最後由 imvitasoy 於 2012-2-5 03:50 編輯

回復 imvitasoy

一條樁，短幾呎，幾十萬, too much la......it must be "executed" by the very "professional"... which means, they all know what they are doing, and they all know what would happen, and they all know what wouldn't happen... Unless, they are "stupid"...
十幾萬, more realistic...

在下唔記得十幾定幾十咯，圓洲角短樁案，其中有兩座大廈出現嚴重沉降，最後要拆卸。

可能佢哋用mixed 唔同長短，所以部分無事，部分出事，計錯數，條工程佬應該釘牌

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-2-5 03:52

十几年前回归前就预计到有今日甘的田地的啦，一D 都唔出奇

一国两制的产物，没得救 ...
kingkong123 發表於 2012-2-4 22:53

係估唔到香菇得咁快

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