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作者: smurf 時間: 2012-3-2 09:13 標題: 星期二檔案: 雙非索女諷刺港人回歸前大舉移民加國蠶食資源

本帖最後由 smurf 於 2012-3-2 09:27 編輯

【本報訊】雙非童近年急增，被指搶奪本港醫療、教育等福利，激起港人不滿。有網民不滿無綫本周二播出的《星期二檔案》中，受訪的雙非女大學生諷刺港人趁回歸前大舉移民加拿大，蠶食加國資源，情況與現時「雙非孕婦」來港產子無異。有網民昨在社交網站facebook發起萬人聯署，要求該節目製作組及受訪者就失實內容道歉，已有百多名網民響應。

廣播事務管理局昨表示，就本周二播出的《星期二檔案》，共接獲五十六宗投訴，均涉及內容失實及誤導公眾，該局按既定程序處理投訴。無綫外事部副總監曾醒明表示，暫未接獲有關節目的投訴，並強調新聞製作部是編輯自主，若市民對節目內容有意見，可向有關部門表達，會視乎意見內容作出跟進。

http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/news/20120302/00176_039.html

作者: smurf 時間: 2012-3-2 09:15

本帖最後由 smurf 於 2012-3-2 09:29 編輯

LYK香港蝗蟲們, 你這麼認為嗎？

Are we locusts here? Did your parents rush through Canadian Border patrol
to the hospital to deliver you? Did we pay tax?

作者: smurf 時間: 2012-3-2 09:18

本帖最後由 smurf 於 2012-3-2 09:28 編輯

7min11s, 雙非索女嘲笑 HK "locusts" looting on Canadian welfare
and education system, and double standard

[youtube]0hAjf9aJZPI[/youtube]

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2012-3-2 09:43

repost

作者: smurf 時間: 2012-3-2 09:48

The above YOUTUBE movie is the sequel.

作者: smurf 時間: 2012-3-2 09:58

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作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-3-2 10:40

條妺只是死撐而講大話，97 前鄉趕人移民去瘋葉，袋鼠，絕大部分是經過投資，技術，或者是家庭團聚申請嘅。大肚探親賴死的"蝗蟲"級，以在下所知，是有，但並不多 (就算今時今日亦唔多)，衝醫院嘅極品蝗蟲行為更沒可能，因為根本上唔到飛機。TVB編導唔夠水準, 無交代呢點。至於抱住BB個麻甩佬是完全白癡仔，講佢都無謂。

作者: ricrick 時間: 2012-3-2 12:11

世界上沒有一個"富強"國家的人民要想盡辦法離開自已的國土
最終問題是共產黨的存在

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2012-3-2 14:39

本帖最後由 Catpiano 於 2012-3-2 14:45 編輯

I am totally agree with her.. and it is so true ..  that many 港人趁回歸前大舉移民加拿大，蠶食加國資源 bor ..

See, not all mainlanders are bad and love to yell ga .. I guess with "better" education in HK, she has better point of view. ^_^

You guys live in Vancouver .. you know it ..  how many 港人 in Vancouver ..  pay ~ $30-50K tax a year?  How many of them just "hai" in Canada, getting all the benifit, health care etc etc??

Of course, not just 港人 .. many native/homeless are doing the same thing too ...

Again, why not? that is the "grey" and stupid area of Canada .. what can we tax payers do?? bite them eat?? We can just work days and nights .. and pay for their spending!!!

作者: 嘉嘉 時間: 2012-3-2 15:23

黐線
我地又唔係移完民生完仔就回流

everyone is paying so much tax each year

作者: hium 時間: 2012-3-2 15:26

我淨係知以前啲同學大部分都係香港移民嚟嘅，大學畢業之後個個雞咁腳咁回流晒，跟住好多都近哩幾年啲細路出世喇就自動攞加拿大護照，計劃o係香港讀多幾年書就送佢哋過嚟讀書升學，跟住大學畢業之後又再回流，無限 Loop。
我無咩所為因為想當年我地阿爺阿嫲老豆老媽子一樣做過類似嘅事，都係為下一代設想遮？

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2012-3-2 16:16

Plenty of immigrants definately are leaching off from the Canadian gov'ts coffer. Esp those rich bastards who still leaches off all sort of benefits and social assistance here. They are eligible since they do not have a local income stream, but have large pile of cash or other income flows from unreported foreign sources.

I know many hongers being some of the worst offenders in this regard. On this, Mainlanders are just merely following hongers.

This is not the same as 雙非. But the net effect is additional burden on the local infrastructure and essentially leaching off legitimate taxpayer's money. Often times, these taxpayers that gets the extra burden are the very childrens of these rich immigrant bastards.

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2012-3-2 16:27

Yes, just Karma. Nothing to complain.

作者: randommike 時間: 2012-3-4 11:05

I agree that it is the same thing. It's only harder to go to US/Canada or Australia so there are less cases. Pretty sure, we all know someone who has done the same thing.

Another case is people who went back after university/college. University/college is heavily sponsored by government so that's another cost to Canada.

p.s. 雙非索女 is hot.

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-3-4 12:13

本帖最後由 imvitasoy 於 2012-3-4 12:32 編輯

返來讀書，然後又走佬的，不外是本科生，唔值錢嘅。有睇Steven Cheung經濟分析的應該知道，本科大學教育的邊際成本，並不是想像中的高 (醫療之類的專科除外)。跳板心態，正如大陸學生在香港讀大學，讀得好的基本上都會選擇留下工作。你老哥在UBC 畢業，如果有job offer , 我估你都唔會較腳返香港/大陸。正如美國佬講：人材根本不會外流，外流的，根本不是人材。

走佬的畢業生，當中一部分在亞洲/美國工作若干年，不排除會再回流，帶回寶貴工作經驗，可以為瘋葉製造更多好處。其實這方面瘋葉國節省了不少勞工訓練費用(比基礎大學教育更貴)，可惜瘋葉佬中意玩既得利益遊戲，沒有人盡其材。假假地亞洲金融中心嘅銀行經理，要做文員，就係荒謬到極既真實。

移民不同蝗蟲衝關生仔，移民是要申請嘅。移民部班官不會是食塞米，計過數如果無好處，會唔會三十年來瘋狂吸納亞洲(特別是中國) 移民? 語言不同膚色不同，你估貪你黃臉佬靚仔？在這裡要為大陸人講句公道話，近十年無佢哋投資/喪炒溫哥華 real estate , BC人未來10~20 年的退休金可能水瓜打狗無一大截。

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-3-4 13:29

There are very few people immigrating from Hong Kong to Canada these days. So the number of people moving back is also small. The number of people moving back and forth is even smaller.

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2012-3-5 00:17

返來讀書，然後又走佬的，不外是本科生，唔值錢嘅。有睇Steven Cheung經濟分析的應該知道，本科大學教育的 ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-3-4 12:13

I agree that more talents are eroded towards the US more so than Asia. As you said, if one can find a job locally, why'd they go back to Asia? That said, if I can find a job in the states (Cali for Tech, Chicago/NY for Finance), why stay in Vancouver/Toronto, etc?

If the incoming immigrants plays by the rules, then the math done by the immigration department holds. However, many don't. They avoid taxes, fakes global income and asset levels, ripping off benefits off the locals that actually needs it, etc. The added load on the local tax base effectively penalizes the average legitimate taxpayers, the same way mainlanders puts burden on the HK working class.

The difference tho is, there are potentially up to 1.3 billion mainlanders flocking to HK, which holds a population of 7 million. Where-as there are only around 6.5 million HK'ers potentially flocking to Canada which has a population of 30+ million. Along with much more rational immigration policy that Canada imposes, comparing to policy which literally encourages selling out HK piece by piece to mainlanders... that's how the net result is starkly different.

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-3-5 03:44

本帖最後由 imvitasoy 於 2012-3-5 03:47 編輯

I agree that more talents are eroded towards the US more so than Asia. As you said, if one can find a job locally, why'd they go back to Asia? That said, if I can find a job in the states (Cali for Tech, Chicago/NY for Finance), why stay in Vancouver/Toronto, etc?

唔係喎,  真系未必喎，無錯好多瘋葉人想落花旗搵工易，但亦唔少CA人想來BC 因為免費medical喎。估計Toronto vs NY 亦有類近情況，在下有個聊友在NJ 失業四年，連出街都唔敢因為無保險coverage ,  成日問我有咩方法relocate去Ontario.  另外，瘋葉大學/學院收留左唔少花旗一流大學嘅二等教授，美國佬叫果班 second class brain,  唔少在UT,  Waterloo…..  (唔知道UBC 啦)

If the incoming immigrants plays by the rules, then the math done by the immigration department holds. However, many don't. They avoid taxes, fakes global income and asset levels, ripping off benefits off the locals that actually needs it, etc. The added load on the local tax base effectively penalizes the average legitimate taxpayers, the same way mainlanders puts burden on the HK working class.

我希望我眼花，你意思係話，移民瞞稅，令到瘋葉移民部計錯數？
從1980 年一直計錯數, 錯到今時今日？錯足30 年,  錯到今時今日，仍然未停地，不斷地，年年地，月月地,  全方位吸納咁PK 衰格既移民？
……… Common sense 話我知，一係黃臉佬真系靚仔D ，一係瘋葉移民部真系食塞米，你想我信邊樣？

The difference tho is, there are potentially up to 1.3 billion mainlanders flocking to HK, which holds a population of 7 million. Where-as there are only around 6.5 million HK'ers potentially flocking to Canada which has a population of 30+ million. Along with much more rational immigration policy that Canada imposes, comparing to policy which literally encourages selling out HK piece by piece to mainlanders... that's how the net result is starkly different.

呢段在下基本上無意見，不過在下感覺,  瘋葉移民政策，更像tourism 多一些。

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-3-5 05:05

You guys are fixating too much on China/Hong Kong. The leading abusers in Canada are most likely from the Philippines and India, the top two immigrant sources for Canada.

作者: blue20ae 時間: 2012-3-5 09:23

By definition immigrant <> 雙非.

Immigrants are legit and approved; whereas 雙非 lied about their purpose of entering.

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2012-3-5 18:11

By definition immigrant 雙非.

Immigrants are legit and approved; whereas 雙非 lied about their p ...
blue20ae 發表於 2012/3/5 09:23

Whatever it is, the essence is the same. One group of people moves to another place in pursuit of better lives. Then they abuse and use up all the resources before moving to somewhere else.

All other differences are just due to different rules, systems and definitions. The core is the same.

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-3-5 23:16

Lots of local born Canadians are working in the US now. There is nothing special about this.

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-3-5 23:25

回復 22# peter236

只要佢地一樣抽呢一邊稅，當然多多益善，善哉善哉…

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2012-3-6 01:42

回復 peter236

只要佢地一樣抽呢一邊稅，當然多多益善，善哉善哉…
lo_pak 發表於 2012/3/5 23:25

Canadians working in the US don't pay Canadian taxes.

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2012-3-6 10:58

I agree that more talents are eroded towards the US more so than Asia. As you said, if one can find ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-3-5 03:44

Yeah, there are people that goes back up North/back from Asia for better quality of living and for free medi too. But for talents that seeks career opportunities, many (not all) looks down south.

Whether it be immigration's math doesn't add up, poor policy planning, negligence, lack of enforcement, whatever it is. Rich immigrants leaching off local benefits by faking statuses and underpaying taxes definately puts extra and unfair burden on legitimate taxpayers. That is without a doubt.

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2012-3-6 11:00

You guys are fixating too much on China/Hong Kong. The leading abusers in Canada are most likely fro ...
peter236 發表於 2012-3-5 05:05

We are talking about rich immigrants abusing the system... I don't know if 'rich' immigrants makes up the majority of immigrants from these countries?

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2012-3-6 11:01

By definition immigrant 雙非.

Immigrants are legit and approved; whereas 雙非 lied about their p ...
blue20ae 發表於 2012-3-5 09:23

But some rich immigrants lie about their income and asset level instead....

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2012-3-6 11:02

Whatever it is, the essence is the same. One group of people moves to another place in pursuit of ...
快樂牛郎發表於 2012-3-5 18:11

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2012-3-6 11:57

x2
BiscottiGelato 發表於 2012/3/6 11:02

Greed and racism are inherent in all human races and nationalities.

Hong kong people can look down on mainlanders but at the same time they are being looked down by another race or people from another country. They can accuse the mainlanders as being selfish and greedy but they are equally selfish and greedy.

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2012-3-6 14:58

Greed and racism are inherent in all human races and nationalities.

Hong kong people can look dow ...
快樂牛郎發表於 2012-3-6 11:57

Everyone is selfish and greedy. That's fine.

Problem is the HK gov't is not protecting their fellow citizen. The reasoning behind this might be understandable, but is definately not agreeable.

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2012-3-6 15:05

Everyone is selfish and greedy. That's fine.

Problem is the HK gov't is not protecting their fell ...
BiscottiGelato 發表於 2012/3/6 14:58

HK is just a city, not a country. I don't think protecting its own citizens should even be a priority, LOL.

作者: chunsh 時間: 2012-3-8 11:50

索女?
where? Where?
I can't see any

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2012-3-8 15:59

HK is just a city, not a country. I don't think protecting its own citizens should even be a prio ...
快樂牛郎發表於 2012-3-6 15:05

It's evident that it's not a priority. That's exactly the problem for HK citizens, living under a gov't that just wanna sell their asses off.

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-3-8 18:49

That is why CY is the better candidate.

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-3-8 18:55

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2012-3-8 18:57 編輯

回復 34# peter236

越黎越唔明顯…
CY開始過橋抽板，TT已經夠衰，無得更衰。

作者: fibbi 時間: 2012-3-8 23:24

Really shouldn't compare immigrant to 雙非.
如果係投資移民，要投資喎，點會無貢獻？
企業移民嘅都要開啲生意。
親屬移民嘅話好似無benefit，要人擔保架。
喺得到住過嘅，衣食住行都會／要花費，GST／PST／HST都要俾啦，無貢獻？
但係走數沖急症室嗰啲雙非呢？

作者: smurf 時間: 2012-3-8 23:45

回復 peter236

越黎越唔明顯…
CY開始過橋抽板，TT已經夠衰，無得更衰。
lo_pak 發表於 2012-3-8 18:55

飛鳥盡，
良弓蔵，
狡兔死，
走狗烹。

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-3-9 00:07

回復 37# smurf

CY 係多左票，問題係夠唔夠票贏…
隨時法定時間打和，擇日重賽就會係另一埸大龍鳳既開始。
響咁既選舉底下選出黎，第二時就真係多手尾執…
個個選出黎都好似會不得善終!

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2012-3-9 00:09

Really shouldn't compare immigrant to 雙非.
如果係投資移民，要投資喎，點會無貢獻？
企業移民嘅都要開 ...
fibbi 發表於 2012/3/8 23:24

Yes
Immigrants are way better
but don't forget what I said
the intention is the same in both cases
how one is better than the other is due to differences in the systems, not in the persons involved

作者: fibbi 時間: 2012-3-9 00:11

回復 38# lo_pak

個個都選唔落

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-3-9 00:13

回復 40# fibbi

你覺得個D咁有代表性既選委今次會投白票?

作者: fibbi 時間: 2012-3-9 00:14

回復 39# 快樂牛郎

Well. I don't agree.
移民嚟嘅好多都想落地生根。但係呢度係艱難大，唔係咁易從頭黎過。

作者: fibbi 時間: 2012-3-9 00:15

回復 fibbi

你覺得個D咁有代表性既選委今次會投白票?
lo_pak 發表於 2012-3-9 00:13

佢哋都係睇阿爺頭啦。

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-3-9 00:16

係喇，目的都係醫肚啫～食霸王餐同俾錢食都係一樣啫～～！俾人走數係係間餐廳既問題！！

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-3-9 00:19

回復 43# fibbi

阿爺把口話兩個都好，一個就口果句，一個就心果句…

作者: fibbi 時間: 2012-3-9 00:21

回復 fibbi

阿爺把口話兩個都好，一個就口果句，一個就心果句…
lo_pak 發表於 2012-3-9 00:19

所以官字兩個口

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-3-9 00:32

回復 46# fibbi

今次連阿爺都十五十六…
唐唐今鋪只可以等完場收工，問題係輸幾多…
工聯會，民建聯一日唔過票，CY都好難上位，咁就要睇佢D民意可唔可以撐到選舉果日。

作者: fibbi 時間: 2012-3-9 00:45

回復 47# lo_pak

買定花生等睇戲。。。

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-3-9 02:54

.....Yes
Immigrants are way better
but don't forget what I said
the intention is the same in both cases
how one is better than the other is due to differences in the systems, not in the persons involved.....

好深奧，睇唔明.....可唔可以講簡單小小...

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-3-9 03:03

回復 49# imvitasoy

係喇，目的都係醫肚啫～食霸王餐同俾錢食都係一樣啫～～！俾人走數係係間餐廳既問題！！

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-3-9 03:11

本帖最後由 imvitasoy 於 2012-3-9 03:16 編輯

瘋葉移民政策，廿年來發生好大改變，
廿年前是吸納勞動力為主，證明唔多通，瘋葉佬自己人遊戲嘅意識好強，稅制又限制小企業，第一代移民好難完全認同/投入瘋葉社會。Ferderal Govt 賴過嘢後，家陣已經精過鬼，近十年改變策略，吸納資金為主，其實是大規模搞變種 tourism, 目的似乎是托住本地pension，否則十年後隨時爆煲。

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-3-11 16:59

回復 50# MoiRhapsody

如果間餐廳停電期間繼續接客(或有限度經營)，咁點睇?仲要佢話呢個係公司policy… 如果你係燕梳公司你會唔會包?一方面有一部份顧客固意賴帳，一方面公司政策鼓勵佢地走數，我覺得兩方面都有問題。
政策有漏洞間接變左引人犯罪。

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