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作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-8-17 00:01 標題: 美國再度重申釣魚島列島適用美日安保條約

2012年08月16日 16:32 鳳凰網

針對中國保釣人士遭日本扣留一事，美國國務院在16號再度重申釣魚島列島適用美日安保條約，也就是任何一方與日本在釣魚島海域發生衝突，美國將動用武力捍衛日本。

中日釣魚島議題緊張升級，美國國務院發言人紐蘭在早前表明美國不會在釣魚島主權議題上採取立場，並希望中日和平解決爭議後，在16號卻重申，在日方強行扣留中國保釣人士與兩名鳳凰衛視記者後，並沒有改變美國對於釣魚島列島適用美日安保條約的立場。

記者：“針對釣魚島問題，國務卿希拉莉早前說這適用美日安保條約第五條，美國國務院現在還是維持這樣的說法嗎？

紐蘭：“我們對美日安保條約的所有立場至今不變。”

美國政界也密切關注釣魚島事件，前美國國務院亞太副助卿薛瑞福15號表示，美國希望避免衝突發生。但衝突若無法避免，美國會遵守美日安保條約捍衛日本並准備承擔後果。

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2012-8-17 00:28

又來大蝦細了.

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-17 00:45

比人D 都係咁話....
Big6 咁樣玩香港，
比美國佬玩返，
在下好 L 心涼

作者: mcjohnjohn 時間: 2012-8-17 01:09

比人D 都係咁話....
Big6 咁樣玩香港，
比美國佬玩返，
在下好 L 心涼
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-17 16:45

我就覺得大陸始終都未夠強大了.

-- 我是中國人 MJJ

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-8-17 01:39

回復 4# mcjohnjohn

當中國D官同埋D富豪以自己下一代在中國本土升學為榮為首，中國就真係世界級大國…

在黨大於法和國既體制上，人文精神和是非公義得不到張顯，中國只可以係二奶仔…

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-17 01:44

回復 5# lo_pak

比你講先了，我的想法同你一模一樣，一個人人想移民的國家，有甚麼可能會強大?

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-8-17 01:53

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2012-8-17 02:06 編輯

回復 6# imvitasoy

無辨法，午夜夢迴，一上網見到D咁既新聞，不勝唏噓…
黨大於法害苦了黨和百姓…法無理，黨徇私，民短視，國危將至…

作者: ricrick 時間: 2012-8-17 09:07

我就想睇下佢地點打

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-18 02:53

比人D 都係咁話....
Big6 咁樣玩香港，
比美國佬玩返，
在下好 L 心涼
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-17 00:45

What a traitor you are?

作者: jiujiujiu 時間: 2012-8-18 13:53

回復 lo_pak

比你講先了，我的想法同你一模一樣，一個人人想移民的國家，有甚麼可能會強大? ...
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-17 01:44

係啦~
但佢地一走咗出去, 又會話大陸點好點好, 人哋又點唔及大陸, 淨係keep 住個PR status, 又唔肯sacrifice 個大陸passport, 都唔知移嚟做乜! 如果大陸咁Q好, 咪鬼去香港加拿大美國澳洲紐西蘭新加坡啦! 連非洲阿拉伯都去鬼埋~ 咪鬼影響人哋生活啦!

作者: Ovaltine 時間: 2012-8-18 14:22

本帖最後由 Ovaltine 於 2012-8-18 14:24 編輯

回復 9# peter236

I think you have mistaken Communist China Nationalism with Chinese Nationalism. Traitor to the regime doesn't not mean traitor to the Chinese people. The only thing that is keeping China intact right now is the foreign policy and economic power, without these successes, there would be riots and mayhem. Certainly Russia and China are the only world power that can stand against American imperialism, and we do need a balance of power in the world in this stage in time.

作者: satil 時間: 2012-8-18 14:27

係啦~
但佢地一走咗出去, 又會話大陸點好點好, 人哋又點唔及大陸, 淨係keep 住個PR status, 又唔肯sacrif ...
jiujiujiu 發表於 2012-8-18 13:53

同意你講, 就係大陸唔好, 移民嚟咗加拿大, 入籍做加國人, 移民第一天己到今時今日都係話大陸唔好.
我甚至不換香港身份証, 亦冇取其六千蚊.

見大陸的貪腐, 見大陸點對的小百姓, 又真係好鍾意睇佢比人玩, 真係幾心涼咖.

絕到唔似有啲人, 身體移民, 把口就死話大陸好, 咁強大, 又唔番歸. 大陸咁好, 咪番去好好享受吓, 點解係到捱?!

作者: jiujiujiu 時間: 2012-8-18 14:46

回復 peter236

I think you have mistaken Communist China Nationalism with Chinese Nationalism ...
Ovaltine 發表於 2012-8-18 14:22

算把啦~
佢從來都分唔清華人同中國人嘅分別架啦~
只係出生响中國或者簡單講句, 有中國passport 嘅華人, 先算係中國人!
特區護照都唔算係中國人呀, 極其量只可以算係"中國人嘅二奶仔"咋!

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-18 15:08

What a traitor you are?
peter236 發表於 2012-8-18 02:53

在下從來唔係中華人民共和國國民，何traitor 之有？

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-18 19:20

在下從來唔係中華人民共和國國民，何traitor 之有？
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-18 15:08

You are a traitor to your own ethnicity, with regard to Diaoyu islands.

作者: jiujiujiu 時間: 2012-8-18 19:34

在下從來唔係中華人民共和國國民，何traitor 之有？
imvitasoy 發表於 2012-8-18 15:08

算把啦~
我地移民得來加拿大, 就已經係traitor架啦~ 呢個事實係無從抵賴架啵! 係佢意識唔到(應該係話面對唔到)自己都係咋嘛~

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-18 19:35

You are a traitor to your own ethnicity, with regard to Diaoyu islands.
peter236 發表於 2012-8-18 19:20

癡孖根

作者: Ovaltine 時間: 2012-8-18 19:36

回復 15# peter236

Certainly this is deluded nationalism stemming from the emotional dependecy for the motherland. peter, the milk your mother had offered you is posionous, haven't they told you?

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-18 19:39

不如話共產黨出賣國民黨，國民黨又出賣滿清，滿清又出賣大明，大明又出賣大元....全宇宙都係traitor....
五毛真系short 上腦。

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-18 19:42

You sold out your own ethnicity in return for milk from the Japanese invaders.

Diaoyu islands have ...
peter236 發表於 2012-8-18 19:38

共產黨不向俄羅斯追討愛暉條約千里割地，是徹底喪權辱國。

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-18 19:43

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-8-18 19:44 編輯

回復 peter236

Certainly this is deluded nationalism stemming from the emotional dependecy for the motherland. peter, the milk your mother had offered you is posionous, haven't they told you?
Ovaltine 發表於 2012-8-18 19:36

You sold out your own ethnicity in return for milk from the Japanese invaders.

Diaoyu islands have nothing specifically to do with the CCP. Deluded bashers like you try to mix diaoyu islands with the CCP.
All Chinese people regardless of political parties support Chinese sovereignty over the Disoyu islands.

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-18 19:45

中華幾千年歷史人種打到亂哂坑，講ethnicity 不如認主歸宗於天主耶和華....

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-8-18 21:40

保乜鳩釣，
呢家係要「光服」釣漁臺呀～～

呢個行動做左四十年～
上過島既中國人都只係普通市民咋!！
兩岸政府影都唔見呀～
當年陳毓祥死鳩埋啦！國家咪一樣hea左去算數！！
保乜春啫？？
人地唔好話保八，保七都有難度，
仲同你保釣？？？

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-18 22:04

人地唔好話保八，保七都有難度，
仲同你保釣？？？
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2012-8-18 21:40

老美同日本仔保一點五都有難度.

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-8-18 22:20

唔想side track,不過你攞已發展經濟體系同發展中國家比係咪有病？？

作者: Ovaltine 時間: 2012-8-18 22:23

I shall care less about Diaoyu Island, what's in it for me? If the Chinese take it over from Japan right now, all they are going to do is develop the off-shore oils there. Sino-pec would own that, government will become more powerful and they exploit the citizens (us) even more.

What we need is pandemonium in the world, anti-government forces to stir up trouble, instable regions so the youth can get rich or die trying.

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-18 22:47

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-8-18 22:48 編輯

唔想side track,不過你攞已發展經濟體系同發展中國家比係咪有病？？
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2012-8-18 22:20

That is why China is expanding its navy rapidly. First, the upgrade and modernization are necessary for China. Second, it forces the US and Japan to maintain their own military power, making any cutbacks difficult. As a result, they are moving towards the fiscal cliff sooner.

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-8-18 22:55

膠都費事俾.....

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-8-18 23:04

I shall care less about Diaoyu Island, what's in it for me? If the Chinese take it over from Japan r ...
Ovaltine 發表於 2012-8-18 22:23

they need a nationwide sparkle. such as inflation, or even this- anti-japan .I don't think this antijapan will go wide, since it doesn't really hurt chinese pocket. But inflation...will be another story...remember what sparkled the russian revolution??

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-19 00:28

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-8-19 00:47 編輯

they need a nationwide sparkle. such as inflation, or even this- anti-japan .I don't think th ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2012-8-18 23:04

The Chinese inflation rate drops to 1.8% in July, a 30-month low. This is good news since the Chinese can now further reduce the interest rates for stimulating the economy. For Japan and the US, their interest rates are already near zero, so very little room for reduction.
As QE2 runs out in June, the US economy is now in a difficult situation. If they implement QE3, that will mean moving towards the fiscal cliff sooner.
As long as China keeps on improving in its military, the US will be forced to follow, forcing the US to print even more money.
The day of taking back the Diaoyu islands is getting closer.

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-8-19 01:10

又係講多都哂gas , 強國咁美好，為甚麼不取消瘋葉國藉，馬上回去愛黨愛國？
莫非又如牛郎教子，講一套做一套，都是合情合理？

作者: Ovaltine 時間: 2012-8-19 01:10

本帖最後由 Ovaltine 於 2012-8-19 01:19 編輯

US doesn't have to follow, they are already in a technological peak in their military, haven't you heard of Pax Americana? This is a fact, no matter how Pro-Chinese your setiments are, it will no change.

I do agree with you in the economic aspects though, China is doing very well, they just follow the world's fiscal policy and not be the leader of the pack. If US prints, they follow and print. If US doesn't, then they stop too.

I don't really believe in the government figures for inflation, but it seems like China is going to open North Korea up as their wild card. This would mean an influx in cheap labour which is essential for the growth of economy.

The question for US is what happens after Syria? Is Iran next or North Korea, very tough choice for her because Russia is backing Iran, and North Korea is China's buffer state. The middle east pot of pandemonium is not easy to handle, anything can happen now, as Egypt is turning Anti-American.

I think China is really hoping Japan to be the essential piece to fend off American influence in the West. But I don't understand Japanese politics enough to give a true opinion on this.

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-19 02:09

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-8-19 02:13 編輯

The problem with the US is that they overextended their military all over the world. After the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, they could have cut back their spending on military. But they wanted to contain China. So they shifted their military focus to Asia. Instead of cutting back, the US follows China by investing in military. They will reach the fiscal cliff sooner.

The inflation rate in China for July is 1.8% which is 30 month low, and worldwide economists agree to this. That is why they are cutting benchmark interest rates for the second time in July. The fact they are cutting interest rates shows they are confident in lower inflation rates.

This is good since China can now further reduce the interest rates for stimulating the economy. For Japan/US, their interest rates are near zero, so very little room for reduction.

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-8-19 08:09

各位，放過Peter 啦…

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-8-19 08:22

哦，其實都撐到武雷公咁遠....
呢家睇幾時大陸出手大壓以抗日為名既暴動。

作者: melody 時間: 2012-8-20 12:08

本帖最後由 melody 於 2012-8-20 12:21 編輯

Very good comment from a gorgor at www.discuss.com.hk:

http://news.discuss.com.hk/viewthread.php?tid=20503706&extra=page%3D4&page=3
#34:

"好心醒吓啦。日本人唔係蝦中國政府，係蝦你地班中國人。大大韾反政府就叻。
叫你真係打仗咪又係做晒縮頭烏龜。然後再賴政府唔夠打。所以個政府先會冇料到。
因為就算政府同日本開拖，你估班人民真係會幫拖咩？咪 ..."

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-8-20 13:01

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2012-8-20 13:14 編輯

回復 36# melody

Would have been done better IMO. To the very least the escort should show up more frequently on the international water boundary... Those Japs won't scare for cheap talks but a hard fist...

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-8-20 13:36

奇怪，胡溫到呢一刻仲係冇野講，唔通講中左係班上海幫老死軍佬爭櫈仔而搞出黎既一場show???

作者: peter236 時間: 2012-8-20 13:59

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2012-8-20 14:01 編輯

奇怪，胡溫到呢一刻仲係冇野講，唔通講中左係班上海幫老死軍佬爭櫈仔而搞出黎既一場show??? ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2012-8-20 13:36

Diaoyu islands and 爭櫈仔 are not related at all.
胡溫 are smart enough not to say anything at this time. Just look at the South China sea, the Filipinos have already shut up on that dispute.

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