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作者: 大C姐 時間: 2012-8-31 09:12 標題: 港女成日被狠批...港男質素又如何？

本帖最後由大C姐於 2012-8-31 09:16 編輯

I rather be lonely for life than married a Chinese girl. If they are CBC, they dwell on hubris of the Anglo-American melting pot of mediocrity. If they are from HK, they lack in bodily features. If they are from China, they lack character and moral obligation. Most leftovers are dragonladies who doesn't have a feminine side.

Obviously there are exceptions, but that is the attitude revolving around Chino Chicas these days.

(from Ovaltine http://www.loyaukee.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=27311&extra=page%3D1&page=6)

之前見到Ovaltine個comment，其實已經好想開呢個topic，事關我覺得香港女性成日被男士／傳媒批評，同其它地方嘅佳麗比較，總係講到啲香港女性一文不值...冇樣冇温柔冇身材冇內涵等等。

當然，我都有講過有部份女孩子確實唔多抵爭，但係我想反過嚟問，你哋嘅心目中香港男士質數又如何？

先講外型，我覺得平均香港女性都算presentable，但係男仔真係好參差。近年叫做多咗少少人做gym，但係平均大部份港男都冇樣冇身材。你睇班A&F model佔領中環令所有女性幾hot?　近排令女性瘋狂並非新手袋，而係一班靚仔奥運體操運動員。以上例子證明，樣靚身材正嘅男性喺香港一樣決乏。

講近啲，港男冇泰仔鋼條身型，唔夠北方人咁高大，亦不及韓男大隻...當然那話兒更加冇得同西人相題並論...　尤此可見，有比較之下，香港男一樣給比下去。

如果你話香港女性冇應有嘅body figure，我真心想問，難道你覺得香港男士們有男人應有嘅體型咩？

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-8-31 09:24

Typical HK Style...

作者: ricrick 時間: 2012-8-31 09:29

我今年去左好多婚禮，好多無銀滿臉暗瘡大肥豬扒，都釣到有錢高大靚仔老公，我都不知何解
思前想後，難道內在美勝於一切？？？
剩女們，其實自己都要反醒一下

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-8-31 09:34

回復 3# ricrick

放火狂徒..

作者: 吳孟達 時間: 2012-8-31 09:45

港女一詞主要講性格, 身材是另一回事.
看身材, 請看"達哥正妹"系列 !

作者: Littleprince 時間: 2012-8-31 09:50

支持啊。。。難怪多數港女都要往外求了﹐港男越來越宅﹐不懂與人交往兼沒怎樣強身健體﹐外表及不上別國人﹐若果再加上沒本領沒成就沒現金﹐難怪造成剩女這麼多 ==

作者: Littleprince 時間: 2012-8-31 09:51

所以說﹐剩女現象其實要怪港男

作者: 吳孟達 時間: 2012-8-31 09:57

我只聽過有公主病，冇王子病 !

作者: fibbi 時間: 2012-8-31 10:01

回復 3# ricrick

我都真係見到不少個女嘅樣貌一般（絕不能用肆正嚟形容），但係個老公ok嗰喎。
反而樣貌娟好嘅女仔（性格都好）就繼續在盛女界浮沈，唔通真係講啲咩緣定三生？

作者: 大C姐 時間: 2012-8-31 10:37

港女一詞主要講性格, 身材是另一回事.
看身材, 請看"達哥正妹"系列 !
吳孟達發表於 2012-8-31 09:45 [url=http://www.loyaukee.com/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=288349&ptid=27404][/url]

港男都成日批評港女樣衰波扁甲組腳豬扒。

而家女仔讀書又叻過男仔，搵錢（某個階層）又賺多過男仔... 咁唔講樣，講咩呀！

作者: 吳孟達 時間: 2012-8-31 11:11

真喺"喜愛夜蒲" vs "一路向西"

作者: ricrick 時間: 2012-8-31 11:53

港男都成日批評港女樣衰波扁甲組腳豬扒。

而家女仔讀書又叻過男仔，搵錢（某個階層）又賺多過男仔. ...
大C姐發表於 2012-8-31 10:37

講樣無錯的，我都係一樣膚淺

但我近期發覺，財俊們開始變得重口味

作者: ricrick 時間: 2012-8-31 11:58

回復 7# Littleprince

係啊，但港男可以北上，港女唯有食自己鳥

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2012-8-31 12:01

回復 Littleprince

係啊，但港男可以北上，港女唯有食自己鳥
ricrick 發表於 2012/8/31 11:58

港女都好多北上wor

作者: 大C姐 時間: 2012-8-31 13:32

真喺"喜愛夜蒲" vs "一路向西"
吳孟達發表於 2012-8-31 11:11

我唔係好get你個analogy，我覺得你有啲＂低俗喜劇＂。

作者: 大C姐 時間: 2012-8-31 13:38

港女都好多北上wor
快樂牛郎發表於 2012-8-31 12:01

我好贊成香港女仔向外發展，首先好多内地人係覺得香港女仔學貫中西，比内地一般女仔見識多啲。

繼而邁向國際，好多西仔對中國女仔情有獨鍾，覺得亞洲人襟老皮膚白滑。我覺得國際市場港女一定勝過港男！

作者: ricrick 時間: 2012-8-31 14:35

鬼佬你就鐘意ga la? hastings有好多

作者: 吳孟達 時間: 2012-8-31 15:21

我唔係好get你個analogy，我覺得你有啲＂低俗喜劇＂。
大C姐發表於 2012-8-31 14:32

HK local girls VS Mainland Chinese gilrs.

作者: ayako 時間: 2012-8-31 15:21

我個人認為, 港男既質素都唔係你講得咁差,
咩地方咩年代都有高質素同低質素既人,
分別係你既要求同你遇人有幾淑既o者...

作者: 大C姐 時間: 2012-8-31 15:56

鬼佬你就鐘意ga la? hastings有好多
ricrick 發表於 2012-8-31 14:35

冇人話係鬼佬就鍾意，亦唔洗去hastings搵。不過話時話，Gastown好多靚仔蒲，見唔少！

作者: Ovaltine 時間: 2012-8-31 16:02

本帖最後由 Ovaltine 於 2012-8-31 16:10 編輯

Lots of HK men are out of shape, the CBC here seems to goto gym a lot and bulk up. Personally I just swim and do push-ups, but I don't take physicality very seriously. The dream of most HK guys maybe for the older generation is be like Li-Ka Shing, so they take the accumulation of wealth very seriously, I think thats bull**** too, all I see are leisurely gentleman lacking in substance.

I really can't take HK girls annoying voices and their narrow-minded skeptical intellectual capabilities. They dwell in a distinctive melting pot of Anglo-Sino culture which is somewhat peculiar. They may appear Westernized but fail to adapt to Chinese cultural values. But enough of my rant
But Big C is right, I too find Korean girls more accomadating, but they are fake sometimes too, and quite Conservative, even more than Chinese or HK girl. It their feminine features and quietness in social situation that I enjoy. When you are with a group of HK friends, girls tend to gossip even within the circle with males. When you are with Korean girls, in social situation, they know when to shut the **** up. That is the difference.

Also family is involved in many dating activities with HK girl, actually saw an HK couple picking up girl Parents at the airport, have to respect the elders and partake in family outings. I feel bad for that loser. Have to do so much to just get some pussy. wahahahaha
when I date with Korean girls here, most are ESL students like the ones of Robson. I guesss if u date in Korea its quite different too..have to meet parents can be annoying..but most K-girls don't take us foreigners very seriously, unless if we are balling.
I personally like Japanese girls more, they are less materialistic and more open and is on the submissive side.

o well enough of my rant.

作者: 大C姐 時間: 2012-9-1 10:11

本帖最後由大C姐於 2012-9-1 10:12 編輯

Lots of HK men are out of shape, the CBC here seems to goto gym a lot and bulk up. Personally I just ...
Ovaltine 發表於 2012-8-31 16:02

真係open up咗好多話題可以講... 我要多謝你提我。

先講CBC/ABC，佢哋喺香港蒲場吃香嘅原因就係有好多香港仔冇嘅條件。例如身材，大方，直接，勇氣，傻勁等等。

但係講開唔同地方佳麗我又要講我自己嘅research/ observations。大陸同日本嘅女性大多數都諗住結婚係一張長期飯票，嫁咗就等老公養。尤其樣靚身材正嘅内地女子，就算同得你結婚都未必會經濟上support你甚至你冇錢俾就即走。呢啲case比比皆是。

反觀香港已經冇咩女仔會等人養，可以接受公一份婆一份。屋企開支亦會分擔，有事嘅時候好少一走了之，幫老公還錢都願意。我覺得香港女性獨立得嚟有義氣過好多鄰近佳麗。

再講韓國女仔，可能你識嘅都係呢度留學生，都係啲holiday romance。我識好多韓國人，佢哋話差唔多一半結咗婚嘅韓國女仔出面有外遇...我唔知有幾眞實。

而且韓國人好要面，你少啲派頭都唔得。反而香港人會接受簡簡單單，唔擺酒又得，出街牛記笠記又得。

作者: FiChai 時間: 2012-9-1 14:42

男仔多數幫男仔，女仔又梗係幫番女仔，倒不如話現今普遍香港人都質素差，不分男女老幼。
其實每個人都總有自身嘅問題，如果人人都只識怪罪他人而莫視己任，社會風氣好得去邊？！

作者: 大C姐 時間: 2012-9-2 09:05

男仔多數幫男仔，女仔又梗係幫番女仔，倒不如話現今普遍香港人都質素差，不分男女老幼。
其實每個人都總有 ...
FiChai 發表於 2012-9-1 14:42

我覺得都有得着嘅。呢幾年成日講港女，好多女仔就算from day one唔認自己係，但係都會暗瓦底反省。

祈望啲男仔都係囉，有外援比較覺得自己成形爭啲就多啲做gym，希望唔會輸太遠。

作者: Ovaltine 時間: 2012-9-3 12:40

本帖最後由 Ovaltine 於 2012-9-3 12:46 編輯

I can't really talk to younger hk girls, i dont know if lack of interest from me. they talk about tvb, where to eat, where to have fun...i want to talk about social problems, human condition, films fest, sex, and love...at least k-girls and jgirls you have some sort of language barrier, and its not awkard talking about these things. i get treated like a wierdo when i talk to hk girls lol...there some sort of exotic mutual attraction if you encounter someone of a different Asiatic race, but maybe we are just tired of being confined by our own culture so we like to bash ourselves in the other side of the gender. The grass is always greener on the other pasture....but its the same grass!

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-9-3 13:15

本帖最後由 imvitasoy 於 2012-9-3 13:20 編輯

文化唔同，正如審美觀南轅北轍，無得比較。香港debutante兩極化，一部分好low profile, 一部分好扮嘢，兩者都識同你講broadway shows, 都識得同你討論baroque art，都可以同你聽 chamber....... 但對於在下此等低層次粗人臭草，悶九死。好在香港扒多腩多，總有一件啱食。

作者: jiujiujiu 時間: 2012-9-3 15:48

其實, 點解香港咁多港男港女, 唔多唔少都要多得佢哋D阿爸阿媽, 個個都話要請賓妹泰妹印尼妹做工人, 連住屋邨都話要請, 個個D仔女就乜都要個姐姐做晒, 咁咪乜Q都唔識做, 又要全世界都要就晒佢服侍佢, 當正自己係皇帝, 非常自我中心囉~ 咁男嘅就覺得個女嘅要就晒佢, 女嘅又覺得個男嘅要就晒佢~ 咁樣, 咪有港男嫌港女有公主病, 港女嫌港男有公子病囉~ 當然, 都仲有學歷同工作職位呢D原因, 但, 無由細到大俾人就慣縱慣, 又點會咁容易用呢D外在嘅野嫌棄人呢.... 學歷同工作職位, 隨時都會有所改變架嘛~ 呢D只係攞嚟掩飾嘅藉口啫~

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-9-3 19:15

回復 27# jiujiujiu

在下一直覺得港女，港男，無問題喎，都是反映某一時期的社會風尚，完全無問題。
鬼佬亦好多土炮，鬼婆亦唔見好，"哈佬" 聲調高低，喜者謂之抑揚，不喜者謂之造作。

作者: 大C姐 時間: 2012-9-3 19:24

I can't really talk to younger hk girls, i dont know if lack of interest from me. they talk about tv ...
Ovaltine 發表於 2012-9-3 12:40

睇你講緊咩香港人啦，你同好後生好＂地道＂港人，無論係男係女，你都未必啱傾。我唔會defend港女，因為我都講過好多＂乖乖女＂係毫無興趣，毫無技能，冇話題嘅悶蛋。

但係你就算date韓妹，我都唔覺得個個識睇戲，識音樂，都係要你搵啱對象囉。

我又好認同其實港人係普遍外表open内裡保守，even好多去蒲都其實對性係比較保守。不過呢個係好係壞就見人見智，你溝緊女當然想對方豪放，但係追到手又想對方忠心，對性專一。

作者: 大C姐 時間: 2012-9-3 19:45

其實, 點解香港咁多港男港女, 唔多唔少都要多得佢哋D阿爸阿媽, 個個都話要請賓妹泰妹印尼妹做工人, 連住屋 ...
jiujiujiu 發表於 2012-9-3 15:48

我又唔覺得問題係關有工人事，當然，好多人冇自理能力係真，係因爲由細到大都唔洗做家務。但係個＂格＂唔係因爲屋企有個小賓賓而成，以前大把大戶人家有馬姐，有傭人，但係個格都未必係公主／公子。我覺得有好多原因呢代人好多追求但係能力又好低。如果你真係大戶，真係公子哥兒，係冇問題㗎嘛。但係呢家啲人冇錢冇後台冇名氣冇才能冇任何工作基礎，但係啲公主公子病係唔知喺邊生出嚟。

當然老豆老母最大責任，但係都解釋唔到個病係點嘢返嚟。

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2012-9-3 19:51

但係都解釋唔到個病係點嘢返嚟。
大C姐發表於 2012/9/3 19:45

因為香港社會太富裕
好多人都未窮過
所以認為所有野都係理所當然

作者: fibbi 時間: 2012-9-4 09:06

我又唔覺得問題係關有工人事，當然，好多人冇自理能力係真，係因爲由細到大都唔洗做家務。但係個＂ ...
大C姐發表於 2012-9-3 19:45

我覺得，就算上一代嘅人有媽姐，工人，始終家庭都係男主外，女主內，媽媽就算唔做家務唔洗做嘢都留喺屋企教仔，所以家教好啲。而且媽姐唔係做家務咁簡單，都會教吓仔架，亦會係家庭中嘅一份子。而家公一份，婆一份，對住仔女時間少咗，仔女靜係對住賓賓，賓賓就一定唔會教仔。

作者: 大C姐 時間: 2012-9-4 09:47

我覺得，就算上一代嘅人有媽姐，工人，始終家庭都係男主外，女主內，媽媽就算唔做家務唔洗做嘢都留 ...
fibbi 發表於 2012-9-4 09:06

呢個point我buy！因爲以前大家族就算有工人，家教都會相對嚴。相反，上一代草根階層啲細佬冇王管，可能自生自滅又會培養出一份承擔同耐力。

作者: 大C姐 時間: 2012-9-4 10:10

本帖最後由大C姐於 2012-9-4 10:12 編輯

我自己有時都覺得香港女（唔想用＂港女＂呢個字眼）有啲唔抵爭。

除咗典型港女難頂之外，有幾個常見嘅type都幾沒趣...

＂乖乖女型＂－冇事業心，冇特別技能，冇咩興趣，冇乜壞習慣，滴酒不沾，唔吹唔蒲，唔算花枝招展，但係又未必係一個識家頭細務嘅賢妻良母。驟眼覺得呢類女仔冇咩唔好，但係相處之後男仔會嫌冇情趣，甚至覺得冇挑戰而打入冷宮。一個字，悶！

＂事業型＂－有好多女仔讀得書多賺到錢未必真係睇唔起人但係就唔會化妝打扮去討好男性。難得有空凈係會同同事／女性朋友去happy hour同旅行。講嘅話題同常係職場是非，買樓同點搵錢。呢類通常好少甚至冇拍過拖，完全冇俾機會自己識男仔／俾男仔追。

另外仲有＂怨婦型＂同＂有錢女型＂都非常常見，下次再講。

講開有錢人，不禁想講返我之前提過嘅中女問題。

＂有錢女型＂－就係一啲女仔come from有錢／中產以上嘅家庭，由細到大都習慣咗享受，對所有嘢都有要求。當然老豆老母又會推波助瀾，想個女對異性眼角高啲啦。形成呢班女仔有意冇意對所有人都比較挑剔。當佢哋站喺一個＂品味高地＂，好難叫佢哋投入一段感情，因為meet到standard嘅男仔唔多，有亦未必要揀＂有錢女＂。

另外＂怨婦型＂係指一啲有過去的女人。呢啲女人可以有錢有事業有智慧，但係就係放唔低一啲過去嘅感情。成日開口埋口講自己唔洗靠男人，＂我為我生存＂，要＂活得比你好＂。而且會慫恿身邊啲姊妹撇男友，經常數男人／前度嘅不是。但係其實如果唔係孤單寂寞，又點會咁bitter?

作者: Ovaltine 時間: 2012-9-4 21:35

本帖最後由 Ovaltine 於 2012-9-4 21:55 編輯

Interesting topic..my parents always try to introduce me to family friends or try very hard to find someone for me. to the point they probably think i am gay...i let them think that way, because personally am happy without a relationship. I mean if I live in Vancouver, i live with my parents, dating game means i would have to dating including my family members, and also the other family members. not a viable option. ****ing around and flings is good enough, holiday romance is awesome too.

if you don't live in a family, then u really need someone to take care of you, but i hate how chinese family they need family approval for a girlfriend or a boyfriend. we don't really have freedom of choice.

thats is probably why asian are lowest of the dating food chain, family come into picture, u see western people are usually self-sufficient, they live alone, freedom lifestyle. but we have to take care of family, and usually family becomes a burden.

作者: fibbi 時間: 2012-9-4 21:39

回復 35# Ovaltine

Not all Western people are that "free". I know Italian are quite family oriented as well.

作者: Ovaltine 時間: 2012-9-4 21:57

回復 36# fibbi

perhaps based on past family history, i find it to be a burden to my individual soverignty. i actually like girls who are family oriented, but i myself is not..what a paradox.

作者: Ovaltine 時間: 2012-9-4 22:11

we hk men are no good at all too, feminine gay pussies, living with parents until the age of 40 is the social norm for hong kong guys. hair slighting thinning from the frequent of brothels or watching japanese av. talk about fly cars all the time.

thats one of the few, more to add ladies?

作者: 大C姐 時間: 2012-9-5 09:36

Interesting topic..my parents always try to introduce me to family friends or try very hard to find ...
Ovaltine 發表於 2012-9-4 21:35

我想問Ovaltine你幾歳先？

如果你已經３０幾，我諗你屋企人都會開始急，都唔會理你同咩人拍拖啦。

同埋你自己有冇能力自己搬出去先？如果同屋企人住係難啲，但係都唔係完全唔可以date。我覺得睇對方配唔配合倒啦。

作者: 大C姐 時間: 2012-9-5 09:58

回復 Ovaltine

Not all Western people are that "free". I know Italian are quite family orient ...
fibbi 發表於 2012-9-4 21:39

好多西人就算唔係同屋企人住都可能有roommates，所以都唔一定可以帶返屋企玩。

其實呢度已經好好，香港居住環境又細，出到街都冇咩私人空間甚至好易撞到熟人！

作者: 大C姐 時間: 2012-9-7 09:45

we hk men are no good at all too, feminine gay pussies, living with parents until the age of 40 is t ...
Ovaltine 發表於 2012-9-4 22:11

有好多女性朋友都話，依家啲香港男士真係好少主動追求女性。就算落到夜場，眼望望同借啲意抽水就多，正正經經approach你問你攞number都少。有啲錢甚至只會開晒啲酒放檯面等女仔行埋嚟。

所以好多女仔都話，對上一次俾人追，對手都係西人。

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