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作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-5 18:24 標題: 溫哥華港人撐反國教黑衣快閃行動

見FB 好多人問有無溫哥華搞反國教，係咁話不如搞個event, 多倫多，英國同new york 都有搞，大家除咗係keyboard 到撐外，作為北美其中一個多香港人嘅地方，有無人想吹雞？？

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-9-5 18:35

如何？

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-5 18:40

我唔係leader type, 所以需要人幫手，需要識電腦嘅，文書好，首先係fb 搞event 吹雞，搞人數再開會，我哋可以係大學/china town擺booth (唔知得唔得),去做資料收集，然後攞啲info 去各大傳媒敲門

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-5 18:43

依幾日個心都諗緊去搵傳媒，十唔十六，事關其實我識一個唔熟嘅傳媒朋友，係main stream 幫刊做，諗緊問佢有無interest 幫手

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-9-5 18:57

在下無經驗，是否應該先搵幾個身邊志同道合嘅朋友/同學開始呢？
否則烏合之眾，好易比人滲透河蟹到躂皮。

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-5 19:17

我都無經驗，所以咪係老友記先問

作者: Ovaltine 時間: 2012-9-5 19:25

We could have meeting here
www.hongkongexile.com
I have personally visited the place, haven't met the three artists yet. But certainly this is a great place to meet up and organize some kind of movement.

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-5 19:30

So...we just go there to make an appointment for meeting to start?

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2012-9-5 19:52

what is 反國教??

What kind of 國教 we have here??

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-5 19:53

Catpiano, 唔係依度，係support 香港者

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-5 19:55

只不過見好多人問溫哥華有無support group, 我唔介意開聲，雖然我識野唔多, 走吓幾轉，做coordinator 仲ok

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2012-9-5 20:24

I will come out and support too. But my current condition won't allow me to coordinate or organize any group/event.

作者: 吳孟達 時間: 2012-9-5 20:56

建議先開一個FB專頁share出去, 採集意見

作者: 吳孟達 時間: 2012-9-5 20:58

本帖最後由吳孟達於 2012-9-5 22:00 編輯

Reference:

London:
https://www.facebook.com/events/111167695699731/

Toronto:
http://www.facebook.com/events/352008424883509/

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-5 21:18

開FB EVENT 依幾日內會做，但想召集多幾名冷靜，轉數快，有學識之士做core admin, 眼見連日來lyk 都有好幾名口才好的在撐場，小妹口才不好，就只會老實地實幹，誠邀有心人幫手，另我其電腦不精，有無人能夠幫忙deaign 個group lpgp 呢？萬分感激

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-5 21:28

和bear 傾過，還是會先create fb event, aim at same day as london and toronto, can someone know graphic or pc please help? THANKS,打算放工後開工

作者: 吳孟達 時間: 2012-9-5 21:30

Just find this one for us Vancouver, join join join!

https://www.facebook.com/events/116475275168404/?context=create

作者: AAC 時間: 2012-9-5 21:43

我唔係leader type, 所以需要人幫手，需要識電腦嘅，文書好，首先係fb 搞event 吹雞，搞人數再開會， ...
Nam 發表於 2012/9/5 18:40

愚見認為華埠擺檔應該唔駛考慮，個班社團叔父，早被領館河蟹，有可能佢地出錢打廣告，撐國教添。
仲有要定位好目標，台記移民無興趣理會你，祖國同胞唔會覺得有乜唔妥，早年移民的老華僑亦無興趣，所以餘下的segment，唔會好大。嚴肅如溫支聯每年攪的六四集會，都係不超個百港人，有身同感受的港人，其實百分比不多。
跟最近溫市抗議日本侵占釣魚台集會不同，因為有強國在幕後拉線組織。

作者: Ovaltine 時間: 2012-9-5 21:46

i can help with the english text, just write the chinese text first.

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-5 22:31

https://www.facebook.com/events/116475275168404/

作者: ricrick 時間: 2012-9-5 22:46

本帖最後由 ricrick 於 2012-9-5 22:48 編輯

正wor，等我揚開去先

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2012-9-5 22:48

開個facebook group 看看？
ricrick 發表於 2012-9-5 10:46 PM

we are starting with just an online event now. please come and join. Let's organize the actual event from there.

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-9-5 23:09

感動~~! you guys are marvelous~~~!

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-5 23:18

請多多support 同廣泛spread out, we need more.support and ideas, thank you

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-6 06:20

Ricrick, Moi, imvitasoy etc. few active members on this forum, would you all like to help to manage the event? I need support... please let me know, so I can add you guys as admin .. thanks.

作者: ayako 時間: 2012-9-6 08:40

just joined~

作者: satil 時間: 2012-9-6 09:11

好! lyk都着黑衫!

有需要做graphic或website, 我可以幫忙, 未必好靚, 但我有時間.

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-9-6 09:34

回復 27# satil

What's the proposal?

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-6 09:41

Ayako, Satli, we need your support, please let me know who is who, so I can add you guys on the management team

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-6 09:42

Thanks for support, admin. I was so worried that admin might remove my post due to politic sensitivity =)

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-6 09:43

Ayako, your Chinese is a lot better than ours, would you please assist us on formal chinese writing etc. on the group? thanks

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-6 09:44

Satil, if you can help on graphic, a standard banner logo/format that are printable is greatly appreciate. .. so people can have a common logo to work on for the gathering

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-6 09:46

discretion is given, so if anybody want to help, can simply pm me on LYK or msg me on fb

作者: satil 時間: 2012-9-6 09:55

回復 28# lo_pak

正在忙幫香港為在現場的做導演的舊中學同學流轉訊息，亦不斷與支持國教的人在不同網中筆戰．（實質只為發放反對的論點．）
同時，在協助中學舊校友，聯合現時中學的校友會，聯合組織簽名信，要校方辦學組織及校長清楚表態．
又發動黑絲帶運動．

若每人都同樣組織其曾就讀中學，壓力會很大．

作者: sheep 時間: 2012-9-6 11:32

考慮吓做條視頻
傳反去鼓勵吓佢哋

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-6 12:12

are you coming tonight?

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-6 13:02

Thank you so much for the support, I am touch and surprise that we have almost 200ppl committed since last night at 9pm

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2012-9-6 13:10

So touched!!

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-6 13:24

yeah.... this morning heading to work, I was doubting myself am I making the right decision to call up this group... would people think I'm just too innocent and think that would work

BUT, I don't want to have any regret when I'm old...
If a 15 years old have no fear to face the world, why should I be worry ?

作者: 吳孟達 時間: 2012-9-6 15:06

Nam, you need to change your LYK avatar image. Now white = support 國民教育 in HK!

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-9-6 15:19

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-6 18:37

Not taht i dun want to change but i cant seems to able to upload a profile pic, and it will become white

作者: matt72178 時間: 2012-9-6 19:16

反國教前, 請認清什麼是國民教育與其害處。
何秀蘭議員十分清晰地講解公民教育與國民教育的分別。

[youtube]jZMwYSbcvZU[/youtube]

作者: matt72178 時間: 2012-9-6 19:21

因工作關系未能出值星期六聚會, 但已將個event 通知晒各界友好和FB 的巴打絲打，同時今天起已改穿黑色衣服以作無聲支持。

作者: B2L2 時間: 2012-9-7 10:26

支持

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-7 11:06

https://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/vaamne, this is our new fb page, please like us if you are supporting us

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-9-7 11:33

支持 x 2

作者: 華Dee 時間: 2012-9-7 14:38

回復 14# 吳孟達

吳孟達你好叻喎！多謝資料！請問仲有無其他海外(例如Sydney, Melbourne, New York, San Francisco, Seattle, Tokyo, Paris 之類)反國教嘅FB links？有關心呢個議題嘅朋友提出過呢個問題。

作者: 吳孟達 時間: 2012-9-7 14:39

（2012年9月7日，卑詩省溫哥華）香港學民思潮發起的反國民教育科運動，不但引起國際性傳媒作專題報導，更引發世界各地的華人響應，民間自發的聲援行動遍地開花。溫哥華一群熱烈關注此事發展的本地華人，透過Facebook網上平台召集，組成《溫哥華反洗腦聯盟》（Vancouver Alliance Against Mandatory Moral and National Education，簡稱VAAMMNE），為本地民間自發無黨派組織，全力聲援香港學民思潮，要求香港政府立即撤回國民教育科，並希望透過一連串活動，身體力行支持香港反國民教育科運動，讓公眾進一步認識洗腦教育的禍害。

政府強以推行國民教育科，對香港來說有迫切性的影響，因為沒有家長甘願自己子女被洗腦；對溫哥華本地華人來說，我們不但憂心洗腦教育禍害香港的下一代，同時也覺得愛國情懷可從多個現有的教育模式灌輸，例如中國歷史科、通識科等等，而不須國民教育來刻意培養。《溫哥華反洗腦聯盟》召集人之一 Gloria Chang 指出：「香港人不需要國民教育科！在反對聲音當中，我們希望透過組織，用一個文明的方法，向全世界展示我們對此事的深切關注。雖然離開香港多年，也沒接受過國民教育，但我們在愛加拿大的同時，也還是心繫中國，因此說明我們不需要國民教育科來教導我們愛國。」

《溫哥華反洗腦聯盟》的義工成員來自大溫各地，當中包括學生、在職人士、香港移民、本地土生土長的加籍華人、甚至是台灣人。參與籌備活動的UBC 學生Adrien Ip、Duncan Li及Pamela Wong共同表示：「身為學生，希望為教育作點事！在知道香港有這樣的事情發生，希望可以出一分力去支持，幫他們堅守一種每個開明國家，都應該擁有的教育核心價值，同時讓別人知道身在海外的大學生也非常關注這件事。」

我們的Facebook活動專頁，在24小時內召集了超過300人，確認出席我們的首次活動－《溫哥華港人撐反國教黑衣快閃行動》，詳情如下：

時間：2012年9月8日星期六下午2點
地點：溫哥華市中心美術館，Robson街旁
如何參與：準時到達，全身黑衣，快閃合照
活動網址：https://www.facebook.com/events/116475275168404/

＊歡迎各傳媒現場採訪，如需安排個別訪問，請電郵至 [email protected]

有關《溫哥華反洗腦聯盟》的更多資訊，請瀏覽我們的Facebook專頁：https://www.facebook.com/vaamne

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-9-7 16:05

......離開香港多年，也沒接受過國民教育，但我們在愛加拿大的同時，也還是心繫中國，因此說明我們不需要國民教育科來教導我們愛國......

這個切入點，說服力並不太強，"心繫中國"，只是個人的心之所屬，並無說明與加拿大有甚麼關連；而"愛中國"，更好像與加拿大在唱對台，關加拿大叉事。

在下所看到的邏輯是這樣的 (只是大意，未理順思想紋絡) ：

......加拿大有很多移民來自香港，香港親屬們的處境，牽引著他們的一呼一吸，因為香港親屬們的下一代，同樣也是他們的下一代。儘管自己偏安於加拿大，無法不憂慮自己下一代，被強逼接受嚴重偏頗的所謂愛國教育......... 。

作者: fishbelly 時間: 2012-9-8 00:10

好耐無返泥呢個版，原來聽日 Art Gallery 個活動發源於此。

我應該會冒著返工遲到嘅險留一陣，希望大家準時。

作者: 嘉嘉 時間: 2012-9-8 17:00

quite a lot of people today!

500 people clicked attending the event, and usually people just click and take no action
but surprisingly more than half attended this event today!

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-9-8 18:39

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2012-9-8 19:04 編輯

回復 52# 嘉嘉

At Most 300, fewer than I presumed...

Mostly UBC or SFU students or other young kids making fun, seriously, mostly learnt shxt from the school...

Some HK immigiants do attend, but... ARE WE just organizing just a pillow fight...

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-8 19:35

Thank you very much for attending in such a short notices, we have so much to learn from today event. Definitely lots of improvement need to think about. Thank you again everyone, I'm greatly impressed and appreciate everyone come out in such a short notice.

I am proud of you all and every body, can or cannot attend, it is YOU make this happen.
I have learn a lot. It is a life long memory and lesson. Thank you again

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-9-8 19:43

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2012-9-8 19:53 編輯

回復 54# Nam

When 10% plus are from the press, I feel embarrassed...

I went to the pub after the event, it's just a pp girl party... (you name it)...

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-8 19:52

which 10% ?

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-9-8 19:55

回復 56# Nam

Count people on the stairs vs the crowd...

作者: sheep 時間: 2012-9-8 20:33

回復 Nam

Count people on the stairs vs the crowd...
lo_pak 發表於 2012-9-8 19:55

we don't have that much press, print press and radio press.

作者: sheep 時間: 2012-9-8 20:34

I didn't see any TV news crew only print and radio

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-9-8 20:35

回復 58# sheep

Then most other people are making fun...

作者: sheep 時間: 2012-9-8 20:37

著黑色衫
熱到死去活來

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-9-8 20:38

回復 61# sheep

MOST people come after 13:55pm...

作者: sheep 時間: 2012-9-8 20:39

me 1400

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-9-8 20:41

回復 63# sheep

Better than nothing, is that ALL you would conclude...???

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-9-8 20:47

從零到發生，只是兩天的事情，咁短時間內吸引到咁多人，組織到咁多事，場地，仲有傳媒.... Nam & the team 都好叻 ~!

Vancouver 社區反應，唔可以同香港比，聲浪受限於香港華人圈內，是很正常嘅，在下唔敢挑剔佢哋，因為在下就肯定做唔到 ~~

作者: sheep 時間: 2012-9-8 20:51

大事大非都要企出來嘅

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-9-8 20:53

回復 65# imvitasoy

That's the reason why I won't join FB... People are fake...

BTW, I feel sorry when I've seen girls protesting with inches thick of makeup on the faces, there's nothing called respect...

作者: chunsh 時間: 2012-9-8 21:08

回復 imvitasoy

That's the reason why I won't join FB... People are fake...

BTW, I feel sorry whe ...
lo_pak 發表於 2012-9-8 20:53

LOL since when and who set the rule about girls cannot do inches of makeup to protest??

大會之前指定左唔俾make-up就話o者

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-9-8 21:17

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2012-9-8 21:20 編輯

回復 68# chunsh

你呢隻食屎呵飯既豺狗 (豺狼加狗) 終於出黎抽水…

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-9-8 21:23

死，在下理解，女人化妝，係尊重場合既表現....

.....唔通在下真系out ?

作者: chunsh 時間: 2012-9-8 21:24

回復 chunsh

你呢隻豺狗 (豺狼加狗) 終於出黎抽水…
lo_pak 發表於 2012-9-8 21:17

我唔覺得自己係抽水呀
我講既都係事實
又唔係喪禮﹐make-up有o羊問題
呢o的時候﹐唔係要越多人"撐"越好既o羊???
已經唔係多人撐場﹐重要批判自己人
唔通個個人都要好follow你既standard

唔o岩聽, 唔同意見就話人又狼又狗﹐又話抽水
閣下同中共都不相百仲

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-9-8 21:27

回復 70# imvitasoy

嘩，維他大哥，烈日當空下化粧，都唔駛咁"行"o下，問心…

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-9-8 21:30

回復 72# lo_pak

呢方面在下尺度好闊

........化與唔化中間，有很大空間......

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-9-8 21:31

本帖最後由 lo_pak 於 2012-9-8 21:33 編輯

回復 71# chunsh

咁又係架，算在下愚味，入世未深，示威示到咁…
我仲以為係民建聯D布景版，得個樣…

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-9-8 21:36

回復 73# imvitasoy

你早D同我講係七月十四，我直情唔出街…

作者: chunsh 時間: 2012-9-8 21:40

回復 chunsh

咁又係架，算在下愚味，入世未深，示威示到咁…
我仲以為係民建聯D布景版，得個樣… ...
lo_pak 發表於 2012-9-8 21:31

唔緊要﹐而家先學都未遲
世界各地唔同訴求/規模既示威大家係網上/電視都見唔少﹐好多人都有唔同既打扮

而家又唔係死人"lum"樓﹐其他人示威期間嘻皮笑臉又唔得﹐make-up又唔得﹐真係
搞到我"R" o西頭﹐究竟係咪我地既民族始終都脫離唔到獨裁專制既性格......

在場o的後生有好多o係呢度長大﹐對香港呀﹐國民教育呀﹐都唔知係mud﹐更係會無
o甘緊張架啦﹐你又要插

作者: 嘉嘉 時間: 2012-9-8 21:43

回復嘉嘉

At Most 300, fewer than I presumed...

Mostly UBC or SFU students or other young kids m ...
lo_pak 發表於 2012-9-8 18:39

more than I presumed

I say it's a very good start for the first event
and at least I didn't feel anyone was making fun of anything

作者: 嘉嘉 時間: 2012-9-8 21:43

Thank you very much for attending in such a short notices, we have so much to learn from today event ...
Nam 發表於 2012-9-8 19:35

thank you again for organizing!
no body would have stepped out to do something if you guys didn't started to organize!

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-9-8 21:44

回復 76# chunsh

我覺得今日似去送殯多D…

作者: 嘉嘉 時間: 2012-9-8 21:45

I didn't see any TV news crew only print and radio
sheep 發表於 2012-9-8 20:34

it's not a local issue, so not everyone in vancouver is yet aware of what we are doing
like I said it's a pretty good start

作者: fibbi 時間: 2012-9-8 22:16

Thanks for organizing! I didn't attend but wear black to support.

作者: B2L2 時間: 2012-9-8 22:33

Thanks for all the hard work.

Negative comments are okay and should learn from it if it ever makes sense. However, the event has its own goal and it wasn't mean to please everyone. Being a participant myself, I know what I'm supporting and that's what the most important.

作者: satil 時間: 2012-9-8 23:14

本帖最後由 satil 於 2012-9-8 23:15 編輯

多謝安排, 可惜未能出席.

為表支持, 昨日, 今日都黑衫, 明天都會一樣 "黑衫"

加多一樣.. FB timeline嗰wall photo一樣全黑 !

努力! 加油!

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2012-9-8 23:35

本帖最後由 MoiRhapsody 於 2012-9-8 23:38 編輯

all those black shirts are made in china.
china black shirts are taking over

作者: Nam 時間: 2012-9-9 09:36

Thank you 各位support, 其實真係好感動，其實我哋每一個都要返工返學，。都係放工就趕去開會，我被說成怎樣沒有所謂，但請尊重各位義工，大家嗰種無私真係好難得，大聯盟真係各人都累了，勸大家回家休息，結果回家各有各不願休息，繼續自發再work, 今朝一起身，說好休息一天，但各自原來一起身已第一時間又開工，所以希望大家能忍鼓勵義工團

作者: imvitasoy 時間: 2012-9-9 11:19

回復 85# Nam

唔使介懷人的想法千差萬別，從自己良知出發，望遠 ~~

作者: Mini 時間: 2012-9-9 11:40

Thank you for organizing the event so there is a way for me to show my support to the No Brainwash Protest in HK. I'm happy to see so many people came to the event in such a short notice. I haven't visited LYK for a long time. I am glad that I saw the event on FB. Giving us sticky notes to express our support is a smart idea. Organizers you all did a great job! Really proud of you!

作者: 嘉嘉 時間: 2012-9-9 18:19

another picture I took

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2012-9-9 21:11

回復 83# satil

家中既短袖黑衫已經"打光了"

(正在冼衣ing)

作者: rockypath 時間: 2012-9-11 19:48

another picture I took
嘉嘉發表於 2012-9-9 18:19

Did you take this picture? You were almost right behind us. My friends were in this picture.

Some of my friends took their children to come along as well.

作者: 嘉嘉 時間: 2012-9-14 23:13

Did you take this picture? You were almost right behind us. My friends were in this picture.

So ...
rockypath 發表於 2012-9-11 19:48

yes I took ga~
cuz there were a lot of people standing in front of the group for the group shot already
so I decided to stay at the back to snap a pic

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