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作者: shutterbug 時間: 2008-5-15 11:34 標題: Canadian housing boom over

This is Canada in general, but in Vancouver where housing is the most expensive in Canada it'll be interesting to see how this unfolds.

The amount of listings is way more than the previous three years and sales is down a bit.

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By The Canadian Press

TORONTO - Canada's housing market boom is over for the foreseeable future, but it won't be followed by the kind of bust that has characterized the U.S. subprime meltdown, say two real-estate reports released Thursday.

The Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp. forecast Thursday that new home construction in Canada will slow to 114,650 units this year, from last year's 228,343 units, with seven out of 10 provinces registering declines.

As well, the country's national housing agency says sales of existing homes are expected to fall by 8.5 per cent.

The downward trend will continue in 2009, with housing starts dipping to 199,900 units and existing home sales crumbling another 2.3 per cent to 465,000 units.

"Most of the pent-up demand that built up during the 1990s has now been fulfilled and residential construction activity will gradually move in line with Canadian demographic fundamentals," said CMHC chief economist Bob Dugan.

"These factors will continue to exert downward pressure on housing starts."

In a separate report, the Bank of Nova Scotia forecasts overall sales to total about 15 per cent below law year's record levels, with home prices increasing on average about five per cent.

"Cracks are appearing on the new home front as well," the bank said, as demand for new residential building permits has fallen sharply and price increases are moderating as inventories of unsold homes trend higher.

But despite the cooling trend, both reports agreed that Canada's housing market remains healthy and that activity this year, while off last year's record levels, will be essentially strong by historical standards.

No U.S.-style melt-down is in the cards, said Scotiabank economist Adrienne Warren.

"First, home prices in Canada are not substantially overvalued," she pointed out."Second, there is still little evidence of widespread speculative home buying that often accompanies the late stages of a housing boom."

As well, Canada's real estate market is not overbuilt and households are not excessively indebted, she added.

"At the end of the day, we predict a soft landing for the Canadian housing market, with somewhat lower sales and construction, and a period of relatively flat inflation-adjusted home prices."

Dugan pointed to strong economic fundamentals such as employment levels, rising incomes and low mortgage rates as providing solid foundations for residential housing this year.

The national housing agency also forecast average home prices will rise by only 5.1 per cent this year and 3.3 per cent in 2009, after average annual increases of about 10 per cent from 2002 to 2007.

"The faster and longer home prices climb, the greater the risk of an eventual price correction," noted Warren.

As such, both reports predict the cooling trend will be most pronounced where the market was the hottest, the West, although both say activity there will remain strong by national standards.

"Both (Calgary and Edmonton) have officially moved into buyers' markets," Scotiabank wrote.

"More generally, however, economic conditions continue to favour the resource-rich markets in the West over manufacturing-dominated centres in Central Canada. Regina and Saskatoon are currently in the strongest sellers' position nationally."

From west to east, the CMHC says existing house prices will rise 9.3 per cent in B.C., 3.6 per cent in Alberta, 26.1 per cent in Saskatchewan, 13.5 per cent in Manitoba, 3.5 per cent in Ontario, 4.7 per cent in Quebec, four per cent in New Brunswick, five per cent in Nova Scotia, three per cent in Prince Edward Island and 10.5 per cent in Newfoundland.

The forecasts are in line with recent housing activity in Canada, which has fallen for four consecutive months.

Meanwhile, the inflation-adjusted average resale home price registered its first quarterly decline in seven years during the first three months of this year, according to figures released Wednesday by the Canadian Real Estate Association..

Scotiabank cautioned that there is downside risk to the soft-landing scenario, particularly if tight credit conditions and the U.S. economy downturn persist and become more serious than expected, impacting Canadian output, employment and income growth.

作者: Traum 時間: 2008-5-15 11:59

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作者: Catpiano 時間: 2008-5-15 14:44

Oh yeah ..  as expected . house price has dropped a lots .. ( more or less ..  due to stup-d american as well?? )

It is more or less back to reasonable price now ..  can buy a not bad 1800-2k ft house for just 1/2 million now .. ( I mean in Calgary, I am sure Vancouver is still more expensive )

I will call this adjustment .. not market crash gei ..

Sigh .. seeing my neighbor house for sale ..  asking price is $200K less then last yr ..

I was joking to my wife last yr .. should sell the house .. rent one .. then buy one later .. but we didn't ..

Well.. as long as you are living in it .. $200K rise or drop .. doesn't matter .. just the problem for people who invest!

$3/4M can buy yourself a decent house now, not bad! good for first time home buyer!

[ 本帖最後由 Catpiano 於 2008-5-15 14:47 編輯 ]

作者: utopia 時間: 2008-5-15 15:27

In Burnaby, a decent family house (not a luxury house) with decent renovation cost 1million + and all agent make it sounds like it such a good deal~~

I mean....... it's a 17+ years house with mortgage helper and it's decent not good; and it cost 1millions +. How can it be a good deal???
and all agent who show home to us make it sounds like it's such a hot deal within the area because it's price reduced... it was asking for 1.2
and not it's ONLY 1.036...........

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2008-5-15 15:56

Vancouver price hasn't dropped that much yet, 200k is quite a substantial drop in a year! A 3/4 mil house is good for first time buyers? I guess Calgarians are way richer than us here...LOL

作者: LOK 時間: 2008-5-15 18:43

原帖由 shutterbug 於 2008-5-15 15:56 發表
Vancouver price hasn't dropped that much yet, 200k is quite a substantial drop in a year! A 3/4 mil house is good for first time buyers? I guess Calgarians are way richer than us here...LOL

They have oil. They pay less tax. They have higher average income...

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2008-5-15 21:22

But everything here ( well . not house gei .. ) is so much more then Van la . . ( ie Chinese food ..

) that is why . I hv to go Van . few times a yr .. to eat .. and drive to USA for shopping .. lol

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2008-5-15 21:37

原帖由 LOK 於 2008-5-15 18:43 發表

They have oil. They pay less tax. They have higher average income...

Well, think of it this way...a lot of people in Van make money without having to show their "books" to the gov't...so people look poorer on books but actually richer...

And don't forget immagrants...buy a 1 mil house CASH!

作者: RayRay 時間: 2008-5-16 09:10

Interest to know how they do that "look poorer on books but actually richer..."

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2008-5-16 13:24

原帖由 RayRay 於 2008-5-16 09:10 發表
Interest to know how they do that "look poorer on books but actually richer..."

then you should ask Mr. Lai Cheng Sing la...a good example...LOL

作者: katamari 時間: 2008-5-16 13:27

Vancouver do have lots of filthy rich people doesn't even have to work haha

作者: B2L2 時間: 2008-5-16 14:21

原帖由 Catpiano 於 2008-5-15 14:44 發表
seeing my neighbor house for sale .. asking price is $200K less then last yr ..

Probably marked up too high and wasn't sold last year. LOL.

作者: spl3nd1d 時間: 2008-5-19 11:50

I like to see all the real estate agents are being so optimistic about the market, thinking that they can still make commission without much effort.

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