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作者: Admin 時間: 2008-6-6 12:37 標題: Member accounts suspended

There are some posts which violate our terms and conditions.
Some members are now suspended.

Please read our rules before you start to post (If you do not agree our rules, feel free to contact us and we will remove your accounts).

01.16 意識不良
包括，但不只限於，色情，意淫，暴力，仇恨，邪教，犯罪，不法組織等題材及任何形式之內容。

01.17 惡言
包括，但不只限於，以下01.17 各項。

01.17.01 粗言穢語或帶有粗言穢語之任何形式之內容或表達方式。

http://www.loyaukee.com/forum/faq.php?action=message&id=36

作者: leo_tsoi 時間: 2008-6-6 14:00

作者: pinkyblue 時間: 2008-6-6 14:04

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作者: Admin 時間: 2008-6-6 14:10

I am not talking about the 師生 post.

Some members violated the following rule:
粗言穢語或帶有粗言穢語之任何形式之內容或表達方式。

This is not allowed in LYK.

作者: pinkyblue 時間: 2008-6-6 14:32

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作者: Admin 時間: 2008-6-6 14:35

No.
I just suspended his account for 1 week too.
Thanks for letting me know.

I can not read every single post in LYK.
I will do my job if someone send me complaints.

作者: pinkyblue 時間: 2008-6-6 14:45

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作者: pinkyblue 時間: 2008-6-6 14:47

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作者: Admin 時間: 2008-6-6 14:48

Banned forever.

作者: pinkyblue 時間: 2008-6-6 14:52

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作者: zoids 時間: 2008-6-6 15:10

Yeah, should treat everyone the same.... but on second thought..... not like I am expecting LYK much nowadays....

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2008-6-6 15:15

good job admin...

if all LYK posts are swearing then it's better to have no post at all

作者: Admin 時間: 2008-6-6 15:21

Thanks shutterbug

But, seems some members still do not understand that LYK is a different forum compare to HKGOLDEN.

If someone like to setup a Vancouver based GOLDEN forum, I am looking forward to it.

作者: pinkyblue 時間: 2008-6-6 15:37

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作者: kzdude 時間: 2008-6-6 15:55

Double standard.

BTW, how can one be "suspened" (see the title of the post)?

作者: Admin 時間: 2008-6-6 15:57

typo, corrected now.

作者: Admin 時間: 2008-6-6 15:59

原帖由 pinkyblue 於 2008-6-6 16:37 發表
okok i understand la admin.....你意即係post 唔可以爆粗..而簽名可以..even(法律面前，窮人含撚)都唔洗ban...ok 咁我又改個簽名啦..admin 你唔好ban 我喎..好冇?

I already told you that I contacted Lik to remove the signature.
If he is not going to do that, I will suspend his account.

Please read our rule again.
02.08.04 簽名檔
簽名檔內不能夠含宣傳性質，侵犯性質，意識不良，或惡言之任何形式之內容。而簽名案所佔據之畫面空間亦以不妨礙其他老友記會員瀏覽溫哥華老友記為準。溫哥華老友記管理團隊有權隨時要求老友記會員將其簽名檔作出更改或刪除。

作者: 華美子 時間: 2008-6-6 16:02

I support you admin. Now「耳」根清靜。

作者: pinkyblue 時間: 2008-6-6 16:14

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作者: pinkyblue 時間: 2008-6-6 16:18

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作者: leo_tsoi 時間: 2008-6-6 17:46

admin,

WAY TO GO!

作者: utopia 時間: 2008-6-6 18:25

I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND THIS IS TOTALLY NOT FAIR AT ALL.

Admin,

Ever since Lancer come back, I have a lot of fun on LYK and I laugh whenever I go back to LYK to read his posts. I was happy that LYK finally is not that monotone and hoping, for one time...LYK finally become a interesting forum rather than a "informative" forum.......

Admin, do you really want to pushed the last few active members to shut up forevers?
As far as I heard from some senior members, LYK used to be fun.

Why do you have to do these to active members???
Do you actually know there are senior members that follow LYK long time ago and got sick of lyk?
and became complete CD-ROM and he actually can tell which post is which right the way but he won't post anymore?

You already make most people gone...

IF you banned Lancer, I'm very disappointed you. I know this is not another HKgolden, but Lancer does really triple the traffic on LYK

I urge you to release Lancer ~~~

I can tell you right now, LYK will sink after this issue.
If you want to keep this LYK as a fairly tale forum but under 獨裁﹗

Sorry, from now on, me ......... being one of the few active members will transform into CD-ROM.
I mean, I'm not agree with whatever Lancer said but he has his point sometimes.

If you banned Lancer, you can banned me too, banned McJohnJohn, banned every one actually leave a post in those 膠 posts! Remember to banned 大寧樂too!

Sorry to say, this is ridiculous!!!! This is not fair. You guys, mod, admin just have double standard.

作者: utopia 時間: 2008-6-6 18:28

Admin,

If you think lancer's action is not appropriated, then why can't you form a sub folder for us people?
Then it's a win win solution.

作者: utopia 時間: 2008-6-6 19:28

原帖由 Admin 於 2008-6-6 13:37 發表
(If you do not agree our rules, feel free to contact us a ...

Admin,

Can you please explain the different between " If you do not agree our rules, feel free to contact us, we will remove your account"

甘請問﹐你甘樣同獨裁者有咩分別﹖
請問點解唔可以有唔同既聲音﹖
點解一定要用mono-tone?
點解唔可以有sub-folder?
點解唔學其他forum 甘﹖
唔一定係好似高登台﹐可以好似大部份既forum 甘﹐整一個粗交台﹐各取所需﹖

單純既會員可以係其他正常 folder 傾計﹐我地亦可以係自己既小天地玩﹖
唔係應該每個sub folder 都有自己既版主﹖有自己既規則﹖

其實﹐點解老友記唔可以好似 Van sky 甘﹖
講真﹐Van sky 好玩好多﹐但我想有一個香港人既家﹗

我地老友記又何苦作為一個自我封閉0既國家﹖何苦步中國既後塵﹐不思進取﹐唔肯改變﹖

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-6 19:52

1.

lyk had gone that way for couple years now. admin idea is like if u don't agree, please leave. he never care about site traffic, nor # of post.

2.

we had this argument before. and the 無人 sub forum.

3.

獨裁者? lyk has always been that way. 唔同既聲音?? we'll see about that...

4.

finally. double standard? this is not the first time that issue come up either.

你放棄啦，留返Ｄ氣

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-6 19:54

原帖由 華美子 於 2008-6-6 17:02 發表
I support you admin. Now「耳」根清靜。

你唔出聲，無人話你啞

作者: SAZABI 時間: 2008-6-6 19:56

原帖由 utopia 於 2008-6-6 19:25 發表
I mean, I'm not agree with whatever Lancer said but he has his point sometimes.

I totally agree this statement.

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-6 19:57

有個問題﹖
點解大家要匿名?

係小女子無知

請問老友記﹐以前有甘既事發生﹗撐滋事分子﹐異見者都會被 admin/mod 鏟之而後快﹖
係咪逢異見者見光死﹖

係的話﹐我地係有以後都用匿名發言好了﹗

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-6 19:59

甘即係

我地先係真正又天真﹐又傻既一群﹖

所謂正義之士﹐先係始祖﹖

Admin,

請你唔好以為我係度搞事﹐我求既係公道﹗
Lancer 當時挑 LIK 機﹐揭人私隱﹐我會出聲
但admin 你唔 banned 力﹐而阿力自從閃卡事件﹗
粗口簽名成甘耐﹐你話睇唔到﹐實在無公信力﹗

就算你睇唔到﹐其他so called 管理員應該睇到喇
如果你話大家齊齊睇唔到﹐甘你係咪suggested 我地時運低﹖你地班高層時運高﹖

[ 本帖最後由匿名於 2008-6-6 21:04 編輯 ]

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-6 20:01

多講多錯
少講少錯
唔講唔錯

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-6 20:07

原帖由 Anonymous 於 2008-6-6 21:01 發表
多講多錯
少講少錯
唔講唔錯

言下之意

即接 roll skin, 唔好發言就最好啦﹗
真感慨我實在太天真﹐太傻﹗

竟然多番想了解LYK CD-ROM 養成之謎﹗

原來謎底如此﹗
小妹甘敗下風﹗
原來假民主﹐假和平﹐原來係甘﹗
原來我地離祖國如此之近﹐原來LYK係親中既﹗

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-6 20:08

官字係有兩把口

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-6 20:10

逆我者~~~~ 死！！！　

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-6 20:15

我乃秦皇子孫﹗流既係獨裁者既血﹗背著既係﹐祖宗既期盼﹐當年我祖宗既不能一統天下﹗
當然要係老友記續我祖先既功業﹗

我的偉大功業﹐豈能被你們班“雜魚”破壞﹗

順我者生﹐逆我者亡﹗﹗﹗﹗

大家一齊改拜LYK 神﹐願膠神永遠不得番生﹗
願膠神弟子一個一個被我捉走﹐再黎一書場燒獄﹗
將一切膠經笑毀﹗﹗﹗﹗

wuahahahahaha

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-6 20:19

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-6 20:25

原膠神永遠與我們同在﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗

原LYK ADMIN 能還我地公道﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗

原19年後﹐大家會為6/4 甘﹐為 lancer 平反﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗

六四要自由言論﹐我地都要自由﹗﹗﹗

強烈要求釋放民運人士﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗﹗

反獨裁﹗﹗﹗

不滿 admin 逼我地簽不平等條約﹗

還未announced 完畢﹐已經早早話唔滿意規條者﹐可以先行退戶﹗
甘唔係獨裁﹐咩係獨裁﹗

假如今日﹐admin 大大聲﹐企出黎﹐大字報﹐話句

“係呀﹐我地老友記係甘獨裁﹐係容唔係你地依班唔同聲音既雜魚﹐ you blow me?? "

“比你地班雜魚係到傾兩句﹐就三分顏色上大紅﹐出黎行預左玩架喇”

“比你留言﹐純粹為左 traffic﹐同廣告商交代﹐個 traffic rate 夠落﹐我咪踢你走lor!你唔係真係信我無睇個場呀﹖﹗咪做bobo wong 同天真 wong 喇“

甘我就服﹗

我

[ 本帖最後由匿名於 2008-6-6 21:36 編輯 ]

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-6 20:28 標題: 老友記地震﹐需要各界支持﹗﹗﹗﹗

各位已經拜入膠派門下弟子﹐請無論如何都要繼續聲援﹗﹗﹗

我家下要訓﹐聽朝要六點起身飛﹗
返到黎再繼續聲援﹗﹗﹗

作者: WEAKEST_LINK 時間: 2008-6-6 20:34

that's why I am one of the CD_Rom...

lancer bro.. time to jump ship to 604 la...

作者: katamari 時間: 2008-6-6 20:41

所以上次ＡＶ帖比人刪左後，我都自己ＢＡＮ左自己啦！ＬＡＮＣＥＲ哥唔使怕有我陪你！

繼續自ＢＡＮ．．．．

作者: SAZABI 時間: 2008-6-6 20:42

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2008-6-6 20:59

why 匿名??? no guts to show who you are?

作者: Admin 時間: 2008-6-6 21:08

Yes, Lancer has his own point and his post is funny.
But....
Does that mean we allow swearing word in his post?

Please note that there are different age groups visiting LYK everyday.

I gave Traum 24 hours to remove the signature. Since he has not reply to me yet, I will suspend his account also.

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-6 21:17

作者: leo_tsoi 時間: 2008-6-6 21:43

post咁多野講咁多野都哂狗氣啦，仲喺度幫呢個抹煞言論自由嘅forum增加人氣，大家集體自ban吧啦！！

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2008-6-6 21:49

老實講，
咁多sub board都係0 traffic,
呢到根本死緊，
不如搬啦!!!

作者: Ultraman 時間: 2008-6-6 22:02

原帖由 Admin 於 2008-6-6 21:08 發表
Yes, Lancer has his own point and his post is funny.
But....
Does that mean we allow swearing word in his post?

Please note that there are different age groups visiting LYK everyday.

I gave Traum 24 ...

Why gave a member (Traum) 24 hours to remove the forbidden statement, but on the other hand didn't give another member (Lancer) any chance (not even 1 hour) to apologize or do anything?! Rules not apply to all members? Or just up to your own mood?

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2008-6-6 22:05

原帖由 MoiRhapsody 於 2008-6-6 22:49 發表
老實講，
咁多sub board都係0 traffic,
呢到根本死緊，
不如搬啦!!!

yeah...go start your own vangolden.com lor

作者: Ultraman 時間: 2008-6-6 22:07

Yea, I also 自ban from now on, until a fair judgment and reasonable 交代!

作者: Admin 時間: 2008-6-6 22:14

I remember that I warned Lancer "n" times not to post swearing words on LYK.

He repeated the same problem and did not obey the rules listed on LYK.
Is that enough reason for me to suspend his account?

Regarding Lik/Traum, I had suspended his account already. Did you hear me???

作者: PAnn 時間: 2008-6-6 22:32

這年頭，admin最難做呀

作者: chunsh 時間: 2008-6-6 22:41

原帖由 華美子 於 2008-6-6 17:02 發表
I support you admin. Now「耳」根清靜。

你都幾大細超wor
之前力哥個signature爆粗你又唔出聲
耳o羊根清靜呀﹐幫自己友就幫自己友啦﹐又無人叫你睇lancer 的posts﹐你明知有
爆粗你仲睇﹐根住又話人嘈到你。你都幾風"脆"wor

作者: Admin 時間: 2008-6-6 22:48

I was on vacation and this is why I did not take any action last 2 weeks.
There are few members who sent me PM and complaint Lancer, this is how I found out the swearing posts.

Regarding Lik's signature, I just realize that when pinkyblue pointed it out. As this is his first time , I gave him a warning today and now his account is suspended due to no reply or action taken.

So, what else do you want me to do?

作者: chunsh 時間: 2008-6-6 22:56

原帖由 Admin 於 2008-6-6 23:48 發表
I was on vacation and this is why I did not take any action last 2 weeks.
There are few members who sent me PM and complaint Lancer, this is how I found out the swearing posts.

Regarding Lik's signat ...

what about banning all people who support Lancer
and let those few members who complained about Lancer stay in LYK 呀門!

作者: Ultraman 時間: 2008-6-6 22:58

Lancer's account is suspended forever.
How about Traum's? Just 1 week or also forever?

作者: chunsh 時間: 2008-6-6 23:17

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-6-6 23:58 發表
Lancer's account is suspended forever.
How about Traum's? Just 1 week or also forever?

well, I think we don't give a damn about whether Traum got suspended or not. Actually I dont want anyone to be suspended
we just want to speak with freedom.

About concerning that different age of people browsing this forum.........that sucks!!!!!!!!
who should be care about those children should be their parents issue, not ours

作者: Ultraman 時間: 2008-6-6 23:41

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-6-6 23:17 發表

well, I think we don't give a damn about whether Traum got suspended or not. Actually I dont want anyone to be suspended
we just want to speak with freedom.

About concerning that different age of p ...

Well, yes I don't really care who's got suspended and who's not. But since we can't have our style of freedom of speech, at least all of us should be treated under the same rule and regulations.

Oops... I rather step out the house now, before the house owner suddenly dislike me. Haha....

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-7 00:23

腦有記？無腦似D囉。

作者: fibbi 時間: 2008-6-7 00:23

Admin sets up this place, he has the right to post whatever rules.
He wants a place with no swearing word (or even no similar sound word), that's his rule. Fair enough.

Why these days people have to post swearing word or similar sound word in order for the post to be "FUNNY" or more readable? What's the problem with the forum being purely informative? I'd rather no post than having to see all swearing words.

P.S. I don't know admin in person at all.

作者: salad_bread 時間: 2008-6-7 00:29

原帖由 MoiRhapsody 於 2008-6-3 01:41 發表
我話，
佢個時傷個膀頭係咪甩臼~~~~
【撩膠打】
你係咪唔識睇中文呀？？？
訓啦柒頭！！
(拜託，呢到好悶。嘈下啦！！）

[柒頭] 係唔係粗口？

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-7 02:26

Admin,

我嚮埋躲都唔緊要﹐費事0的人話點解要匿名﹐唔夠膽講﹗

你到底明唔明﹖無人想阿力Banned, 而係無人想任何人banned!

做 admin 唔易做﹐你明唔明大家慶0的咩﹐ 係你個句banned forever!

你依一句即係話緊比所有真係有心係度幫你搞旺個場既人聽﹐你出位就要死﹗﹗﹗

你問心喇﹐每次LOYAUKEE個場興旺時﹐係0的媽咪posts ﹑天真posts 出位﹖
定係0的無無聊聊﹐搞笑笑既 posts 好﹖

我一起身第一件事睇loyaukee,見到 sazabi 都被人 banned 埋﹗
Okay, 甘即係話你用另一個方法話比我聽﹗你係獨權﹗
你只care 老友記一部份既會員﹐而唔顧全大局喇﹖
即係話你唔理我地幫你搞旺個場既會員既感受喇﹖

TO WHO SAID 匿名等同 NO GUTS:

點解要 SHOW NAME?
因為好似 SAZABI 為人民出聲﹐咪被人 BANNED ﹗

作者: utopia 時間: 2008-6-7 02:27

oh, BTW, in case someone said 無名 posts, I accidentially clicked it !

TO WHO SAID WE HAVE NO GUT, the post above is posted by Utopia!

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2008-6-7 07:36

try try law ..

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2008-6-7 07:57

原帖由 salad_bread 於 2008-6-7 01:29 發表

[柒頭] 係唔係粗口？

係呀~~~~~

作者: Guy 時間: 2008-6-7 08:10

原帖由 Anonymous 於 2008-6-7 03:26 發表
你問心喇﹐每次LOYAUKEE個場興旺時﹐係0的媽咪posts ﹑天真posts 出位﹖
定係0的無無聊聊﹐搞笑笑既 posts 好﹖

媽咪posts ﹑天真posts=唔搞笑
無無聊聊﹐搞笑笑既 posts=唔好笑

作者: Admin 時間: 2008-6-7 08:43

原帖由 Anonymous 於 2008-6-7 03:26 發表
Admin,

我嚮埋躲都唔緊要﹐費事0的人話點解要匿名﹐唔夠膽講﹗

你到底明唔明﹖無人想阿力Banned, 而係無人想任何人banned!

做 admin 唔易做﹐你明唔明大家慶0的咩﹐ 係你個句banned forever!

你依一句即係話緊比所有真係有 ...

Sazabi is now suspended as someone reported a bad post to me.
http://www.loyaukee.com/forum/vi ... amp;page=2#pid33730

The member did follow our rule to file the complaint and therefore I took my action.

作者: SAZAB1 時間: 2008-6-7 11:29

原帖由 Admin 於 2008-6-7 09:43 發表

Sazabi is now suspended as someone reported a bad post to me.
http://www.loyaukee.com/forum/vi ... amp;page=2#pid33730

The member did follow our rule to file the complaint and therefor ...

Care to explain why it was a bad post?

Or you are saying that as long as someone is there to file a complaint and you will just ban someone?

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-7 11:40

原帖由 Catpiano 於 2008-6-7 08:36 發表
try try law ..

01.15 灌水洗版
包括，但不只限於，以下01.15 各項。

01.15.05 主題不符
上傳與該討論區主題不符之主題或上傳與該討論主題不符之任何形式之內容。

作者: Guy 時間: 2008-6-7 11:47

http://www.loyaukee.com/forum/vi ... amp;page=2#pid33730
SO MANY CLOSED REPLY..IN THERE

UM..
NEW LANCER?==== OR lancer728 = on9lancer16728

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-7 11:50

QUESTION:

something like
on9line, fcuk

係唔係粗口？

作者: jake123 時間: 2008-6-7 11:53

Ok, before complaining about unfairness please consider admin's effort into maintaining and moderating this forum... He's trying to make this place fit for more people...

About Traum and Lancer, I agree that Lancer is funny, but his posts are not that "constructive" while Traum's posts are "constructive" at times and he only occasionally swears, not constantly.

Also, can we just make a swear word filter, perhaps we can submit the commonly used swear word phrases to be filtered out to the admin...?

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-7 12:04

原帖由 Anonymous 於 2008-6-7 12:50 發表
QUESTION:

something like
on9line, fcuk

係唔係粗口？

wikipedia:
http://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/wiki/粗口
http://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/wiki/廣東話粗口

作者: Guy 時間: 2008-6-7 14:28

粗口（尤其是粵語粗口）真係可以話五花八門，有啲粗到簡直唔可以入耳，亦有輕描淡寫係咁意，有啲係狠毒嘅詛咒，亦都有一時間都唔識解嘅詞語。總之但凡列入粗口類嘅字眼同埋詞語，唔理係邊一種語言都好，佢哋嘅共通點不外乎係用嚟發洩同埋鬧人，仲要繪形繪聲，聽嘅人起哂雞皮毛管戙，俾人鬧嘅唔即時發火都會怒火中燒，甚至因為咁而發生打鬥同埋流血事件

作者: Alcoholic 時間: 2008-6-7 16:22

原帖由 fibbi 於 2008-6-7 12:23 AM 發表
Admin sets up this place, he has the right to post whatever rules.
He wants a place with no swearing word (or even no similar sound word), that's his rule. Fair enough.

Why these days people have to post swearing word or similar sound word in order for the post to be "FUNNY" or more readable? What's the problem with the forum being purely informative? I'd rather no post than having to see all swearing words.

you make your site, you can have your rules. but on the other hand, you want noise & traffic for your site, but you ban those who provide it to you. if you wanna selectively filter out all the bad apples, then maybe it's about time to make LYK a paid membership only site, & you need some sort of test & application so that admin can "review" the person before approving them to be a member lor. don't be picky when it's FREE man.

& i wonder how many of us here really doesn't swear or use harsh slang language in our everyday life sin??? if you're gonna be so serious, then don't go read an INTERACTIVE forum... go to news sites with informative proper language, or just go read a book & be a CD-ROM. go get a life.

[ 本帖最後由 Alcoholic 於 2008-6-7 16:24 編輯 ]

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2008-6-7 16:28

Predictable! How many times can you run through a red light?

You need to learn how to fit in and RESPECT!

You can't just keep swearing and attacking people no matter how good your point is.

You can't even fit in a virtual world! I bet you don't know how to survive in the real world either!

Hope you kiddo learn a lesson!

Good luck dude!

!RESPECT!

作者: chunsh 時間: 2008-6-7 17:16

原帖由 habitrailspace 於 2008-6-7 17:28 發表
Predictable! How many times can you run through a red light?

You need to learn how to fit in and RESPECT!

You can't just keep swearing and attacking people no matter how good your point is.

You can ...

大家又唔識你﹐ and u called other people "dude" and "kiddo"

我都覺得好offended wor
how much respect u know

作者: Alcoholic 時間: 2008-6-7 19:00

原帖由 habitrailspace 於 2008-6-7 04:28 PM 發表
Predictable! How many times can you run through a red light?

You need to learn how to fit in and RESPECT!

You can't just keep swearing and attacking people no matter how good your point is.

You can ...

errr.....who the eff gives a damn for the virtual world when it's not even a real world. have you not learned the difference yet you kiddo?

作者: kaimui22 時間: 2008-6-7 20:04

原帖由 Alcoholic 於 2008/6/7 05:22 PM 發表

you make your site, you can have your rules. but on the other hand, you want noise & traffic for your site, but you ban those who provide it to you. if you wanna selectively filter out all the bad a ...

the thing is...Admin never asked for increase in noise or traffic...it's not like he asked for anyone's help and then told them they broke the rules and kicked them out.

i just think that..LYK is a place for those that fit into what Admin wants as an audience. And a lot of people don't fit that target audience, therefore he has the power to kick those out that don't fit. LYK is like any other gated community...you come in, they tell you the rules..if you break any rules or don't fit in (according to the owner, in this case, Admin), then you get warned..and if you keep repeating what is not accepted, you get kicked out.

Unless everyone pays for the bandwidth and the website, I don't think we have any say in who we think should belong in here and who we think should stay. Admin paid for this website, he knows what and who he wants as members..and he has set out rules. If you don't agree, then don't join and don't come in and try to fight the system.

if you want to talk in offensive language or slang or even swear words, you might as well search for another forum that fits your need and also see you as an asset. I think golden is a good example of where most of the banned members would fit as a target audience.

作者: PAnn 時間: 2008-6-7 21:14

原帖由 Anonymous 於 2008-6-7 13:04 發表

wikipedia:
http://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/wiki/粗口
http://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/wiki/廣東話粗口

動物類

[編輯] 咒死咒災類
命就得一條，所以咒人死就最毒，就算唔死，生勾勾但無運行都好大鑊。所以好多文化之中都有咒人死咒人衰嘅粗口，例如廣東話話人「死仔」、「死仆街」，「仆街」即係話人行步路都仆低，咒人黑仔，再衰啲就話人「仆街死」，即係仆親都唔夠，重要仆死喺路邊都冇人收屍。再惡毒啲又會話人冚家剷，即係咒人全家死晒。英文因為受耶教影響，佢哋咒人死咒人衰都交畀神去做，例如話 “Goddamn it!”即係話神會玩死你，喺西洋社會嚟講，都好毒架。

it's hard to believe this is from wikipedia

作者: Alcoholic 時間: 2008-6-7 21:55

admin never asked for traffic.... but what would he do WITHOUT the traffic sin? do you think he'll get all the ads, the publicity, & fame for this forum sin?

admin can have his ideal target audience. but like anybody else in reality, there are people you get along with, & those that you dislike. but, since you're in society, can you really just "kick out" those that you don't like outta your life sin? even if you do kick them out, people like it in the area, or just "plain loves to annoy you" & come back time after time.... it's how things are. so what's the damn point when you can't control the environmental factor that you're in?

on the other hand. if a complain or two can cause the "authories" to ban/suspend a member, gum ng tung so many people complain admin, we over throw him out meh? besides, with so many complaints on admin on the other hand, it just causes a worse reputation of LYK. so yeah, maybe admin can be as picky as he wants on the members. but definitely, he's just wrecking the marketing of LYK with his own hands. you can take, but you just have to give in another way.

my thoughts are, this whole cycle of LYK drama for the Nth time is just a reflection of society, which is normal. so maybe some groups just need to be less of an idealist & face it. say it nicely = idealist. say it naughty = coward/hermit. at the end, it's the same but different wording

i don't think swearing or bad slang is a problem at all as long it's not addressed to others. so just picking on using swearing used for expressing one's feeling towards a situation etc is just plain dumb. for those that were really swearing back & forth... i hate to say this, but just be fair. but it's ok. we all know admin's eye prescription is left eye big, right eye small....& just like the swearing: you can't change it.

[ 本帖最後由 Alcoholic 於 2008-6-7 22:00 編輯 ]

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-8 11:54

原帖由 PAnn 於 2008-6-7 22:14 發表

動物類

[編輯] 咒死咒災類
命就得一條，所以咒人死就最毒，就算唔死，生勾勾但無運行都好大鑊。所以好多文化之中都有咒人死咒人衰嘅粗口，例如廣東話話人「死仔」、「死仆街」，「仆街」即係話人行步路都仆低，咒人黑仔，再衰 ...

你死啦！你講粗口！！！

作者: Intelstan 時間: 2008-6-8 12:35

I completely agree with fibbi's comment.

The admin can do anything he wants, if some members don't like the rules, then they can leave.  He can be biased, unfair, unreasonable, etc but I see no problem in that at all since it is his forum.

I don't see any problems with how the admin runs LYK since it is reasonable and fair in my point of view.  If anyone thinks they can run a forum better and have some extra time, then he or she can start a new forum.

作者: salad_bread 時間: 2008-6-8 14:19

好快LYK就會變成一個育兒forum!
it's so good! LOL

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-8 14:56

原帖由 salad_bread 於 2008-6-8 15:19 發表
好快LYK就會變成一個育兒forum!
it's so good! LOL

育兒forum

good one
hahaha

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2008-6-8 14:58

My guess is that Admin will love to see his site to be loved and with traffic. It's not the ad or whatever, but how would someone not like to see his/her creation be warmly welcomed and recognized by other people? On the other hand, admin has his own set of believes, he likes to see his forum be PG13. Of course, he paid for bandwidth and he upkeep the maintenance, he gets to do whatever he wants.

On the other hand, as a visitor, many people want a forum to endorse freedom of speech, as that is part of the reason why visitors actually visits generic forums like LYK (as opposed to more subject specific forums, like cellfone/cars/or even professional/academic discussions). Lots of things they can't say out loud in real life, so the rather consult in forums, vent or whine in forums instead. Some just want to come up and see that things are easy going, loosly controlled and hilariously funny.

So the current situation in LYK currently is comprehensible. A lot of voices wants freedom of speech, these people wants a place where primarily Vancouver hongers can just chill n relax and BS a bit. While some just want LYK to be primarily for informative purposes only. The admin want the forum to be catered for the latter crowd, which is absolutely fine. But it also means that the former group of people will be disappointed, and might ultimately become CD-ROMs or just leave. In which case, admin will also not get the traffic or endorsement that he probably also wants.

In the end, this is just conflicts of interests within admin himself, and also conflict of interest between 1 group of audience and another group of audience. Not saying I agree with what the admin is doing, but as this is his forum, he gets to decide whatever he wants his forum to be 1 way or another. Complaints are rather useless, as many people are right, this place IS indeed dictatorship, because admin is the only person who paid for the upkeeping and the bandwidth, he has the right to keep this place as dictatorship.

Perhaps if people are unhappy enough, they can go start a VanHKGolden or something, I'll be happy to join~ Until then, we can only live with LYK however admin wants it to be.

Back to my 99% read, 1% write mode.

*post edited because of typo and wut not*

[ 本帖最後由 BiscottiGelato 於 2008-6-8 15:01 編輯 ]

作者: chunsh 時間: 2008-6-8 15:13

原帖由 BiscottiGelato 於 2008-6-8 15:58 發表 So the current situation in LYK currently is comprehensible. A lot of voices wants freedom of speech, these people wants a place where primarily Vancouver hongers can just chill n relax and BS a bit. While some just want LYK to be primarily for informative purposes only. The admin want the forum to be catered for the latter crowd, which is absolutely fine. But it also means that the former group of people will be disappointed, and might ultimately become CD-ROMs or just leave. In which case, admin will also not get the traffic or endorsement that he probably also wants.

點解的天真傻人唔可以包融的呢
講粗口咪講粗口o羅﹐就算係講都係自己友講﹐有人用粗口X你﹐而你去投訴甘就無
可口非呀。你講你BB 的野就得﹐人地係度市井一下就打小報告

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2008-6-8 15:21

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-6-8 15:13 發表

點解的天真傻人唔可以包融的呢
講粗口咪講粗口o羅﹐就算係講都係自己友講﹐有人用粗口X你﹐而你去投訴甘就無
可口非呀。你講你BB 的野就得﹐人地係度市井一下就打小報告 ...

If that's what the admin wants, and he is the one paying for the site. Nothing much we can do about this. He has no responsibility to the audience. Theoretically he can ban whoever he doesn't like, or even close down LYK tomorrow if he wants. It's not like he is the Prime Minister and we are paying tax for him to be around. He is volunteering his time and his money to keep LYK going (I highly doubt the LYK ads is making this site profitable for him).

Don't get me wrong chunsh, I always like ur posts and also lancer's posts. Most of them are just reflecting reality with a dose of sarcasm. I guess some people don't like to be reminded of the reality in a supposingly peaceful virtual society.

作者: salad_bread 時間: 2008-6-8 15:42

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-6-8 16:13 發表

點解的天真傻人唔可以包融的呢
講粗口咪講粗口o羅﹐就算係講都係自己友講﹐有人用粗口X你﹐而你去投訴甘就無
可口非呀。你講你BB 的野就得﹐人地係度市井一下就打小報告 ...

我都學識左打小報告了~~
以後我一見到D疑似粗口既我都會立即報告All Mighty Admin!!

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-8 16:36

I am not an active member of LYK, but i just want to leave my comments..

I do wish LYK stays clean and respect community for ppl at all ages in vancouver.
Maybe there is no problem for swearing or slangs, but i agree with admin. he has his rules and control of this forum. If you want ppl to respect you, you better respect other first.

ie: you won't smoke in a non-smoking restaurant.
you won't break the rules of your company. otherwise, you get fired. it is common sense.
If ppl don't like it, they can just leave with their mouths shut. why do they need to say so much bad things about it? u break the rule, you deserve a penalty.

I initially thought this is a forum for information, academic, sharing.

I support admin!!!! don't worry, you are trying to protect us, the peaceful ones~

作者: chunsh 時間: 2008-6-8 17:06

原帖由 Anonymous 於 2008-6-8 17:36 發表
I am not an active member of LYK, but i just want to leave my comments..

I do wish LYK stays clean and respect community for ppl at all ages in vancouver.
Maybe there is no problem for swearing or sl ...

喂﹐夠膽咪用番你自己個account o羅﹐o甘氣直理壯

作者: salad_bread 時間: 2008-6-8 17:10

用匿名簡直係老鼠行爲！可恥！！
做咩呀？唔敢比人知你係邊個丫！

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-8 17:16

Some people still didn't get the point. It's not some of us like to swear and try to force the admin to change his rule so people can swear here. It's because someone swore got punished but someone also swore didn't! That's what pissed people off ah! If to say admin owns this forum so he can do whatever he likes or up to his seasonal mood, he needed not to set up any rule or regulation, just say "I am the king and I have the power, I can like you or dislike without a reason! Eat it!".

作者: 匿名 時間: 2008-6-8 17:30

re: salad bread

i don't know why you got so pissed. i guess you are over-reacted.
anyway, i think maybe you have no where to vent. stay calm and relax.
ps: i like to be anonymous. if u think my actions are like rats, i think yours are even worse.

if you don't know how to respect ppl , i will suggest you take a course.

作者: salad_bread 時間: 2008-6-8 18:06

原帖由 Anonymous 於 2008-6-8 18:30 發表
re: salad bread

i don't know why you got so pissed. i guess you are over-reacted.
anyway, i think maybe you have no where to vent. stay calm and relax.
ps: i like to be anonymous. if u think my actio ...

一個藏頭露尾的老鼠不值得我尊重！
我每次見到老鼠都會將佢置諸死地既！

[ 本帖最後由 salad_bread 於 2008-6-8 19:11 編輯 ]

作者: Admin 時間: 2008-6-8 19:04

原帖由 Anonymous 於 2008-6-8 18:16 發表
Some people still didn't get the point. It's not some of us like to swear and try to force the admin to change his rule so people can swear here. It's because someone swore got punished but someone al ...

How many times I need to say?
I will suspend the one who swear on the forum. Either Lik or Lancer, I had suspended them.
I had suspended few other members now as some members just PM me.

If I missed anyone, feel free to let me know.

Please see my 聲明 at the bottom of the page.
切勿撰寫粗言穢語、誹謗、渲染色情暴力或人身攻擊的言論，敬請自律。

作者: salad_bread 時間: 2008-6-8 19:38

Ban 左Traum 最大快人心！！

作者: Ultraman 時間: 2008-6-8 19:53

原帖由 Admin 於 2008-6-8 19:04 發表

How many times I need to say?
I will suspend the one who swear on the forum. Either Lik or Lancer, I had suspended them.
I had suspended few other members now as some members just PM me.

If I miss ...

Yea, you suspended Lik at the end. But we think/know you did it all because of people yelling and giving you pressure. Your "big-small-eye" is too obvious during the whole progress. Why there are so many members got disappointed by you? Because LYK is a conservative forum? Because we can't swear here? Because no AV or BT here? Ask yourself la.

作者: Intelstan 時間: 2008-6-8 21:11

The more contributable members to the forum will obviously be given a bit more leeway when it comes to punishment for breaking a rule.

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2008-6-8 21:20

原帖由 Intelstan 於 2008-6-8 21:11 發表
The more contributable members to the forum will obviously be given a bit more leeway when it comes to punishment for breaking a rule.

Define "contribution". It seems that it's "contribution" in the eyes of the admin = contribution. Does not necessarily mean the rest of the LYK community think it's a contribution.

For example some might think that voices supporting view point of a certain group of people is "contribution", but I might think that a more diverse opinion base is "contribution"...

so in the end, if it's admin's call for what's "contribution", then it's really nothing more than at the admin's discretion. At that point there is no need to make stupid excuse like "banning tolerance is based on contribution" because it's really just "banning is completely up to the admin's discretion".

Dictator 就 dictatorship, don't need to make any excuses.

作者: Admin 時間: 2008-6-8 21:25

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2008-6-8 20:53 發表

Yea, you suspended Lik at the end. But we think/know you did it all because of people yelling and giving you pressure. Your "big-small-eye" is too obvious during the whole progress. Why there are so ...

I can answer you here.
Yes, LYK is a conservative forum, which AV, BT and swearing are not welcome.
I don't care if someone would create a Vancouver forum which offers AV and BT, it is an open market society anyway.

I don't even earn a penny here, why bother...

作者: yayaya 時間: 2008-6-8 22:34

哈哈哈第一次見admin發咁多貼

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