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作者: totori    時間: 2008-8-12 15:16     標題: 奧運開幕式作假，明星女孩假唱 - 這樣做是考慮國家利益

http://news.bbc.co.uk/chinese/tr ... 7556900/7556933.stm

奧運開幕式作假，明星女孩假唱

北京奧運開幕式上，一位可愛的女孩以她動人的表演和歌聲打動了全世界的觀眾。
然而，現在披露出來，這位演唱'歌唱祖國'的女孩林妙可在台上是在假唱。
天使般的歌聲實際來自一位叫楊沛宜的7歲小女孩。楊沛宜沒能亮相開幕式是由於她的形像沒有9歲的林妙可那樣'完美'。

北京奧運開幕式的音樂總監陳其鋼在北京電台接受採訪時表示，楊沛宜之所以沒被選上是因為形像，這樣做是考慮國家利益。  

據他的說法，上台的女孩形像，表情必須完美無瑕，能把最好的感情傳遞給觀眾。
由於在奧運開幕式上的表演，林妙可被稱為'微笑的天使'，一夜之間成了明星。
而據中國媒體的報道，真正唱歌的楊沛宜則表示她對沒能在開幕式上亮相並不後悔。開幕式上有自己的聲音已經很滿足了。

爭議

女孩開幕式假唱一事被媒體披露後，在網上引起了很大爭議。
有網民認為，為了國家對外形像，這樣做無可非議。
但更多網民譴責這樣的造假做法。表示假的再美妙，奧運也不需要。也有網民質疑，這樣作假，給孩子帶來什麼？

'假唱'並不是奧運開幕式上唯一被處理過的地方。
開幕式時，全世界的觀眾都在電視屏幕前看到了焰火組成29個'腳印'的壯觀情景。
但現在，北京奧組委一名高級官員承認，開幕式上向觀眾展示的巨大腳印焰火是事前經過電腦圖像處理合成的。
把電腦事先處理好的圖像提供給轉播媒體是為了'戲劇效果'和'方便'。因為實際焰火效果很難拍攝。

作者: zoids    時間: 2008-8-12 15:28

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Yep, best CG at dat too.  China FCUK YEAH!

I am sure the CG has nothing with the safety issue of filming the fireworks with helicopter at close distance.
作者: chobit    時間: 2008-8-12 16:07

I don't mind the singing part... but using CG is.. another story?!
作者: peter236    時間: 2008-8-12 16:35

原帖由 chobit 於 2008-8-12 17:07 發表
I don't mind the singing part... but using CG is.. another story?!


They told everyone beforehand that it was CG.
作者: notgoddy    時間: 2008-8-12 17:03

What if everything was CG? Don't you all have the feeling that you never really woken up this morning? We are all in the Matrix... there is no escape.
作者: pepsis2    時間: 2008-8-12 18:35

i think for the CG part... well... controversial.. coz they really get the firework going.. but not putting it 'LIVE'...  but still not looking great la...

for the little girl part, it is such a HUGH disgrace!!!! 外 形 不 夠 可 愛 ???? so does it have anything to deal with 「 為 了 國 家 的 利 益 」 ????

世 上 沒 有 小 孩 是 醜 的 ！醜 的 is the adults who classify 小 孩 by their appearance!!!!
作者: notgoddy    時間: 2008-8-12 19:06

If there are no ugly kids, how do you explain where ugly adults comes from?

Talent is one thing, and appearance is another, and for that part of the performance they were looking for appearance.

I guess you are right! They should had put a really deformed child (like ass faced) on stage that can actually sing, that would just be so human and lovely and whole would would enjoy it.
作者: yuusaku    時間: 2008-8-12 20:10

http://www31.discuss.com.hk/view ... &extra=page%3D1
作者: kaimui22    時間: 2008-8-12 20:34

i thought the CG part was okay...

as for the little girl...think about how it would affect her emotionally and mentally...
she'll see herself as never pretty enough..even as a 7 year old!
作者: 大KK    時間: 2008-8-12 23:14

原帖由 notgoddy 於 2008-8-12 19:06 發表
If there are no ugly kids, how do you explain where ugly adults comes from?

Talent is one thing, and appearance is another, and for that part of the performance they were looking for appearance.

I g ...


if that was the case then those ppl will probably blast off about how come they cant find a better looking girl for that part... picking bone in an egg.

they should had have both girls on the stage, then we are all even.
作者: pepsis2    時間: 2008-8-13 05:42

respond to # 7:
wa? did u really take a good look to the girl who sings backstage??? do u call her "ugly"?????

i really don't think so... & really i don't see any ugly kids...  "your looks are reflection from your heart".. that may explain why there'r some ugly adults..
作者: sheep    時間: 2008-8-13 08:58

美与醜 是見仁見智
現在係公平与否旡問題
付出了 未被肯定 還被愚昧
話你有機會幕後代唱 以經係你旡榮幸
B S
俾人爆左出泥 還出泥解畫
點解呢個秘密 會泄漏出泥
就証明 有人要為幕後旡人討回公道
作者: notgoddy    時間: 2008-8-13 10:12

Correct, "your looks are reflection from your heart" and I am look awesome, as I have an awesome heart.

However there are some ugly adults in this world, and I don't know what their hearts are like.
Oh look! Some beautiful human beings, wallpaper for pepsis2:




True, this only means there are ugly adults that have become so due to their circumstances, and this does not prove if there are ugly kids--which still could exist.

As seen above, there is such a thing as ugliness and there are various degrees of it as well, but this is the result of their actions and circumstance.
楊沛宜 will now be growing up listening to adults, telling her that her glory was stolen and that she was not pretty enough. How would this change her thinking, and would she become truly ugly with acts of self-destruction? If her parents are sane, I hope that she would be raised according to her talents and let her carry on as a person of talents.

Personally I find it hard to blame the government for creating this mess, because it is totally expected of them to create false images. Also, I don't blame society for designating people as pretty or ugly, as it is human nature to favor better appearances. The fact that there is an excess of cosmetic industries proves that people are vain, and the entertainment world just compounds the mentally of how good looking people should look like. If you were not given the back story and were told to judge which of the two girls are better looking, the result and your stance on this issue would be quite different no doubt.

Hopefully people around her will explain to her how the world is and help her accept rejection.
And if the government is as smart as I think it is, she will have her own album in a year or so.
作者: siumaibb    時間: 2008-8-13 10:57

我相信楊沛宜一開始就知到自己無得出樣，我諗佢自己都知唔夠林妙靚，起碼有得出聲，仲想點？林妙夠無得唱啦，算唔算唔公平？
都係做台好戲俾大家睇姐，各自做好自己崗位，睇開D啦。
（仲有，我地講緊中國大陸，全部人都俾政府洗晒腦架啦，so, they won't feel bad）
作者: totori    時間: 2008-8-13 12:23

當 局 對 消 息 曝 光 很 緊 張 ， 到 昨 晚 8 時 ， 在 搜 尋 網 站 「 百 度 」 打 入 「 楊 沛 宜 」 三 個 字 ， 所 有 代 唱 的 報 道 內 容 已 幾 乎 全 被 刪 除 。

http://www.appledaily.com/olympi ... amp;art_id=11469576

Although China is trying to show the world how grand and advance they are in the Olympic, I think she is still very far away from being one of the top countries in the world if the government can't even allow her people to discuss such a minor criticism...
作者: pepsis2    時間: 2008-8-13 13:11

reply to the following:


As seen above, there is such a thing as ugliness and there are various degrees of it as well, but this is the result of their actions and circumstance.
楊沛宜 will now be growing up listening to adults, telling her that her glory was stolen and that she was not pretty enough. How would this change her thinking, and would she become truly ugly with acts of self-destruction? If her parents are sane, I hope that she would be raised according to her talents and let her carry on as a person of talents.

wow... they're your assumptions, rite? I don't think it's appropriate to comment on something that's not the fact.

I see your point there, but I still don't see such a thing called "ugly kid". Even kids are born with defects & they may not look as good as the others, they're so innocent & naive that I will never name-calling them "ugly kids".
作者: sheep    時間: 2008-8-13 14:01

原帖由 siumaibb 於 2008-8-13 11:57 發表
我相信楊沛宜一開始就知到自己無得出樣，我諗佢自己都知唔夠林妙靚，起碼有得出聲，仲想點？林妙夠無得唱啦，算唔算唔公平？
都係做台好戲俾大家睇姐，各自做好自己崗位，睇開D啦。
（仲有，我地講緊中國大陸，全部人都俾政府洗晒腦架啦，so, ...

At least her contribution should be reconized.
Her name was not even mentioned.
I guess if it is not exposed, no one will know it.
作者: spoonek4    時間: 2008-8-13 21:15

講真，如果唔係大陸攪奧運，而係西方國家攪，會唔會一路有人窮追猛打搵料爆呢﹖

Don't get me wrong，我睇完呢單新聞都多少有d 失望，不過我理解一個主辦單位要make sure所有野都係冇問題既，如果真係楊沛宜出黎唱，又會唔會有人話*$%@搵個醜樣既出黎等佢睇完夜晚發惡夢呢﹖又會唔會又人話李寧唔識飛扮飛教壞人呢﹖

要挑剔既真係好多野可以挑剔，我唔相信其他國家既呢類表演冇咪咀/代唱呢d 情況，係睇在有冇人講有冇人爆既姐。楊沛宜肯定知佢冇得出場，佢揀唔開口為其他出場既表演者錄音既話，大陸政府都耐佢唔何.......
作者: spoonek4    時間: 2008-8-13 21:26

原帖由 sheep 於 2008-8-13 15:01 發表

At least her contribution should be reconized.
Her name was not even mentioned.
I guess if it is not exposed, no one will know it.


我真係唔介意見唔見報或者有冇人讚，如果只係唱一首歌(唔係叫你上場殺敵)而又幫到國家一個忙既，我真係一口答應，做左一件簡單既事，自己一生難忘。

我唔會要求人地點名讚我，recognize我做既野，因為背後仲有成千上萬為籌備同協助個event 舉行而出盡血汗既人冇俾人留意到。
作者: sheep    時間: 2008-8-13 22:05

如果真系你 你第日同人講 話其實係你幕後代唱
人地唔相信 話你有妄想症
重話你想滔人地光 想詆委人 唔抵得人有名有利
你再重申果句 咩天在看 人在...........
人地笑你係白癡 你就唯有唱天才與白癡 你癡定我癡
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2008-8-13 22:27

小弟小學既時候都試過幕後代唱, 唱首畢業歌, 大家跟住唱得開心就得啦.
小朋友先唔鬼理你地大人果d 名利既, 開開心心咁唱, 對學校有貢獻就得啦~
作者: spoonek4    時間: 2008-8-13 22:30

唱首歌仔咁大把，講到咁大件事既﹖俾著我真係鐘意唱歌既，唱多一首，仲要係錄音既唔岩唱到岩，有咩所謂﹖要講我都係第時同d 仔女講就得啦。你話開班教唱歌講明"前奧運開幕表演主唱歌手"教既，d 人就會覺得你車大炮，因為你想以呢樣野黎攞更多既利益丫嘛！

有時d 野唔係一定要人地拍下你膊頭讚你叻或者有d 咩報酬先叫好，好似我頭先講唔係叫你上戰場，唱一首歌令到我開心又一生難忘既，唔係人人都有咁既機會，我一定lur埋上個月d 飯黎答應囉
作者: spoonek4    時間: 2008-8-13 22:32

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2008-8-13 23:27 發表
小朋友先唔鬼理你地大人果d 名利既


十分贊同你呢句，下下算到盡有幾多收獲做人好冇意思。
作者: notgoddy    時間: 2008-8-13 22:35     標題: 回復 16# 的帖子

Pepsis2, from what I have seen people say about this issue, I think Ms. Tong will eventually hear something like that. Perhaps I have mis-phrased my intention, as the point is I am hoping my guess does not become a fact.

Of course it would take a real bastard to directly name call ugly kids for what they really are, but abnormal is ugly and there is no other way to describe it unless you are being tactfully dishonest.

Sheep, any army general or even any manager will tell you, real heroes are invisible.
They gets things done and prevents disasters, it is what they do and they don't desire recognition. (a nice pay check would do)

The "heroes" we often hear about are just opportunists who happens to be able to fix other people mistakes, and we only praise them because we like people fixing our mistakes.
作者: 快樂牛郎    時間: 2008-8-13 23:52

lol

as I already said
the whole thing is just a show

waste of resources
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2008-8-14 00:20

小弟絕對贊同奧運既開幕禮只係一個show.
但係唔認同咁樣係waste of resources.

唔通就咁開咪話"北京奧運正式開始!", 跟住就完左個奧運開幕禮咩...
作者: sheep    時間: 2008-8-14 06:42

所以 小朋友真係天真
大人講咩 就信咩
如果大家發覺 原來唱歌果個係啞既
都係幕後代唱
然後 天真既人就會話
冇所謂喇 開幕禮只係一個show
好咪得囉 It's a magic!!!!!!!!!
作者: sheep    時間: 2008-8-14 08:02

不如 角色互調
叫個殘廢旡出黎扮唱
俾人鬧時 就話 因為 呢個小朋友
罹患絕症 為左圓佢個奧運夢 只有噤做
我相信 全世界拍手
大陸 造假有理 謊話連篇
只要達到目的 可以不擇手段
愚民 更是手到拿來
作者: sheep    時間: 2008-8-14 09:31

Invisible heros are those who cannot be identified or too many that you cannot identified.
Like those fight to dead in the battlefields and the hunderds of fire fighters that fight fire and save peoplle's life. You just pay tribute to them.
But now, you can be identified and the other even been asked about the feelings of singing on behalf of the country in front of the world. The whole intention is to fool the world. Do you think it is right, it is fair to the singer behind the curtain? Why not tell the girl who is singing behind the curtain come out to say that it is a lie that people is reporting, she never sings behind the curtain. That she can save the face of her country and shut the world up.
作者: Ken    時間: 2008-8-14 09:31

開幕式假唱事件
2008年北京奧運會開幕式音樂總監陳其鋼在一個專訪中透露，開幕式上那首震撼人心的《歌唱祖國》並非舞台上的林妙可所唱，那個稚嫩、真摯的聲音來自一位7歲的小女孩楊沛宜。陳其鋼同時透漏，楊沛宜小朋友的落選主要是因為考慮到對外形象，是為了國家利益。

此事曝光後，引起許多中外人士反感；雖然部分中國網友表示認同，稱林妙可與楊沛宜都是「英雄」，「為了確保開幕式的成功，是誰演唱並不重要。」。另一部分中國網友與多數外國人士對此進行了反駁，認為「假唱不好，讓小孩假唱更甚」、「請把最後一點純真留給孩子」，甚至有人直接對總導演張藝謀和音樂總監陳其剛表示不滿。

開幕式後，楊沛宜接受了央視記者的採訪。當記者問她有沒有覺得遺憾時，她回答說不遺憾，開幕式上有自己的聲音已經很滿足了。

針對此事件，中國于2008年8月13日實施新聞封鎖，中國網站上有關此事的報道大多被移除。
作者: siumaibb    時間: 2008-8-14 09:37

原帖由 sheep 於 2008-8-14 09:02 發表
不如 角色互調
叫個殘廢旡出黎扮唱
俾人鬧時 就話 因為 呢個小朋友
罹患絕症 為左圓佢個奧運夢 只有噤做
我相信 全世界拍手
大陸 造假有理 謊話連篇
只要達到目的 可以不擇手段
愚民 更是手到拿來 ...


咁你咪去信俾布殊，叫佢攻打中國，原因係北京奧運有人搵小朋友代唱然後隱瞞事實囉。
最好叫美軍救返楊沛宜出黎，以免佢再受逼害同不平等待遇，同時叫佢再當眾唱一次果首歌，還佢一個清白!
作者: pepsis2    時間: 2008-8-14 15:12

i think that's the message in the deepest... that's why i dislike it that much:

締造完美畫面「咪嘴」 標榜女性外表作祟 2008年8月14日
  
【明報專訊】於上周北京奧運開幕式上高歌《歌唱祖國》的紅衣小姑娘林妙可，是被大會安排由一名擁有更完美的嗓子、但樣子不夠「漂亮」的女孩楊沛宜在幕後代唱。這個「咪嘴」事件曝光後隨即引起國際間的廣泛爭議，有本地研究女性自尊問題的專家認為，這個為締造完美畫面而「易角」的做法，是現今基於形象來針對女性的排斥行為的又一例子。

在本地為一項鼓勵女性自尊運動的跨國基金擔任顧問的女性健康輔導員泰勒(Lisa Taylor)昨指出﹐基於形象的排斥在現今社會已變得極為盛行，而今次「咪嘴」事件所帶出的負面信息，就是外表比何任東面都更重要，要漂亮才不會被排斥。

泰勒稱，該種風氣不僅是在中國(今次京奧)，其實已在全球都很普及，這會為女性造成很大的壓力，因為外表在現今社會已變成了重要的因素，不管如唱歌等的才華有多好，如外表未能達到某個水平，都不被接納。

對於這種「歪風」的形成，泰勒歸咎於現今社會傾向塑造完美的做法，譬如時裝雜誌中的女模特兒，往往都是近6呎高、擁有窈窕身材的。她表示，非白種人的女性所面對的壓力更大，因為有色族裔在這些「完美的角度上」並無足夠的代表性。

泰勒說，愈來愈多少女因此有進食失調的情況﹐過於注重外表而忽略自己其他的強項，或是因外表而面對交友困難等問題。一項於2006年所作的國際性調查，發現達到92%的少女和婦女都想改變她們的外表。

由於事件已被國際媒體廣泛報道，泰勒認為，家長應趁機跟子女坦誠討論外表的重要性問題，解釋目前並不單只是中國，全球都有這種過於注重外表的歪風，講解個人的自信心應是如何建立。

此次的「咪嘴」事件，昨日除登上多倫多4份主流報章的頭版外，也成被本地多個主流媒體報道，而在網上更已成為熱門話題，短片網站更有多個有關的短片被上載和討論。

有網民表示，在幕後配音的女孩的樣子，根本沒有問題，也是很可愛和漂亮。另有網民認為，審美婦女特性變得沒有年齡界限，是值得可悲的。

也有網民替這兩名女孩可憐，因為要「咪嘴」的會被人永遠記「只得個樣」，而代唱的永遠被人記得是「出唔到鏡」，她們其實能在這個盛大儀式上演出，應是很大的榮幸，為何要給她們如此大壓力，希望大眾給她們空間。

有網民說，最應「易角」反而是跟英國歌手布萊曼(Sarah Brightman)拍擋的中國歌手劉歡，認為大會應找一個更英俊的來唱這首奧運主題曲《我和你》。
作者: sheep    時間: 2008-8-14 18:37

我相信siumaibb一定係大陸愚民政策下一朵奇芭
好好為祖國辯護 好佬怕爛佬 爛佬怕潑婦
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2008-8-14 18:50

原帖由 sheep 於 2008-8-15 10:37 發表
我相信siumaibb一定係大陸愚民政策下一朵奇芭
好好為祖國辯護 好佬怕爛佬 爛佬怕潑婦


佢叫你去信俾布殊，叫佢攻打中國woh, 擺明係唔like中國啦!
同你同一陣線架~
作者: sheep    時間: 2008-8-14 20:04

燒賣bb 又有一單喇
今次連郎朗都俾人識穿係錄音
假彈
先前嚮第個thread 俾人話去現場 先至叫LIVE
而家 連現場 都係假LIVE
真係乜都假 連贏左女子體操團體金牌D女仔 都要俾人話未夠秤
冇十六歲 護照係國家發的 未必係真
死未
作者: spoonek4    時間: 2008-8-14 20:28

都係果句.....

我開頭聽到有咪咀事件我都幾失望，擰親個個鬼佬電台都講緊呢件事，當然唔少得報紙大字標題報導。爆料出黎，個個爭住講，唔踩多三五腳應一應既對自己唔住麼﹖唔使講一路睇大陸咩都唔順眼果d 口痕友就更加忙啦。

之後諗番咁大個event，冇d 什麼東突攪事呀，炸彈驚魂呀，斬人頭之類既野發生都已經偷笑，現場嘈雜加埋各雒因素影響到歌手表現，我理解到揀錄音跟住唱，都係萬全之策，反正咁又唔得，咁又唔好，口痕友實有野講架喇，俾我都錄左先。
作者: spoonek4    時間: 2008-8-14 20:40

仲有，一個地方冇影響力，去邊度搵人得閒妒忌你﹖好似歌手咁都係紅既先多報紙佬寫既之嘛﹖

宜家睇埋中國o係餘下落黎既項目有咩表現先！比賽一開始，俾你吹到自己上天都冇用！
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2008-8-14 22:57

真係唔明唱live 同唔係唱live有乜野分別...
最緊要係音響系統有番咁上下, 音質好, 就自然會好聽啦.
作者: cha_wan_mushi    時間: 2008-8-14 23:05

gonna use some of the China vocab hehe to comment on these China issue.
hahah..
here goes..

對於孩子一事﹐我覺得。。。
主辦單位對小孩不公平
意識不良。
作為主辦單位﹐ 沒有做好榜樣
不誠實
對不起偉大的祖國
謝謝大家
作者: sheep    時間: 2008-8-15 06:45

而家唔係唔俾mime嘴 miming 我地叫sync嘴 對嘴
歌可以錄定 連煙花都可以電腦造假
為求完美 可以理解 邊個大騷唔錄定一D野丫
不過 唔好一心想話可以瞞天過海
穿左又想搵野泥掩飾
大方0的 承認左 大家笑下 咪過左囉
呢個世界 再冇甚麼不招人妒是庸才喇
呢D只係自我催眠
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-8-15 07:16

原帖由 notgoddy 於 2008-8-12 20:06 發表
If there are no ugly kids, how do you explain where ugly adults comes from?

Talent is one thing, and appearance is another, and for that part of the performance they were looking for appearance.

I g ...


勁!!!
我贊同
講野同思想我覺得都唔應該太天真同理想化
作者: yuusaku    時間: 2008-8-15 07:40

aiya....discuss.com removed my thread about the vancouver sun news article  

where is freedom of speech.............................

原帖由 yuusaku 於 2008-8-12 21:10 發表
http://www31.discuss.com.hk/view ... &extra=page%3D1
作者: news    時間: 2008-8-15 08:33

i hv a stupid question..for the firework...was it just fake on tv or was it fake as well in the stadium???
作者: notgoddy    時間: 2008-8-15 08:54

I heard from the news, and seen this video where they really had the fireworks in real life.
Hell, it is on the first page of this thread.
[youtube]wbZrI8onelg[/youtube]

Guess what?

Beijing Olympics: 'Ethnic' children exposed as fakes in opening ceremony

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport ... ening-ceremony.html

HAHAHAHAH
作者: notgoddy    時間: 2008-8-15 13:06

And while we are at it....

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/sports/article2592984.ece

Olympic artists angry
The Kung Fu pupils in the opening ceremony of the Olympics have spent the last year cooped up in a military camp outside Beijing. Conditions have been bad. "They weren't even given enough food," says their trainer. This news adds to the criticism of the Beijing Organizing Committee.
作者: siumaibb    時間: 2008-8-15 14:10

原帖由 sheep 於 2008-8-14 21:04 發表
燒賣bb 又有一單喇
今次連郎朗都俾人識穿係錄音
假彈
先前嚮第個thread 俾人話去現場 先至叫LIVE
而家 連現場 都係假LIVE
真係乜都假 連贏左女子體操團體金牌D女仔 都要俾人話未夠秤
冇十六歲 護照係國家發的 未必 ...


郎朗假彈其實都睇得出，因為琴邊都唔覺有咪，佢又好似好輕鬆咁。。
Pavarotti 冬奧都lip sync啦，so what? 一來演出者唔洗咁大壓力，二來觀眾睇得開心，講真，邊個觀眾係為左郎朗同林妙入場架？
我本人都唔鐘意共產政府，但係奧運係第二回事，奧運開幕更加係另一回事。。
作者: siumaibb    時間: 2008-8-15 14:14     標題: 回復 44# 的帖子

Beijing Olympics: 'Ethnic' children exposed as fakes in opening ceremony

真係幾好笑，仲有無？
作者: sheep    時間: 2008-8-15 19:55

好戲在後頭
大家拭目以待
作者: sheep    時間: 2008-8-22 10:09

真係乜都假 連贏左女子體操團體金牌D女仔 都要俾人話未夠秤
冇十六歲 護照係國家發的 未必 ...

都話架喇! IOC 今日終於開聲喇
不過 堂堂大國一個都話係真既話 你都無謂迫狗入窮巷
唔係身裁驕小出賣佢地 而係佢地臉上既稚氣
小女孩 付出了 得到應有的回報    可喜
有人開小差 得到不應有的回報     可恥
有人視而不見 縱容下屬帶頭作假 可悲
我地                                            可以點?

[ 本帖最後由 sheep 於 2008-8-22 11:12 編輯 ]
作者: peter236    時間: 2008-8-22 14:24

The opening ceremonies stunned the world with their elegance. The Olympics has been very well organized. The Chinese team is also doing so well. That is why the anti-China bashers are so angry and sour grapes. The organizers told all foreign broadcasters that those fireworks were just special effects. So they were not faked at all. The bashers have to nitpick on China to show their supposed superior quality, LOL.
作者: sheep    時間: 2008-8-22 18:47

It's OK
IOC come out to say that needs investigation.
Later, they will say there is no substanial evidence to prove them underage,
so, it will end in favor of the host.
Discussion will end soon.
作者: notgoddy    時間: 2008-8-22 18:54

Paper trails are slow, but digital sources are FAST/////

http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2008/08/hack-olympics.html
http://strydehax.blogspot.com/20 ... ii-lets-go-for.html

Unless this fellow/group have hacked numerous sites just to screw China, it is fairly good evidence.

But those website have been known to be easily gamed.

[ 本帖最後由 notgoddy 於 2008-8-22 19:56 編輯 ]
作者: pepsis2    時間: 2008-8-22 21:27

i think most western people just can't distinguish the "older age" & "younger age" of asian ppl...esp girl...

well.. i think i look "mature" enough but still sometimes taken as pre-teen by western people....
lots of asian females have that kind of experience ga!
作者: notgoddy    時間: 2008-8-22 21:47

So does you young looking asian females find that people are more revealing to you when they mistake you as an inexperienced youngster?
作者: pepsis2    時間: 2008-8-22 22:19

So does you young looking asian females find that people are more revealing to you when they mistake you as an inexperienced youngster?

plz rephrase your sentence to a standard that is understandable.
don't really know what u r talking about. "Inexperienced"???? watch ur mouth!

Anyway, I mean when u go to take public transit, go to casino etc...

[ 本帖最後由 pepsis2 於 2008-8-22 23:29 編輯 ]
作者: 小叻    時間: 2008-8-22 22:27

By speaking of young and old look, i actually think that western ppl (esp woman) old much faster than asian.. not sure if that is becoz of their heavy make up in their teens and ruin their face...but they just got so many wrinkles..and black spots...... when i used to work at a Sxxxway supermarket (back in high school days)... i mis-judge the age of my coworker...  by looking at her face...i thought that she is in her 60s.. and when she told me that her car got broke down.. i told her that you can ride the bus.. she then said.. bus fare is not cheap..(coz she lives abt 3 -4 blocks from work)..and i told her..not really.. as u can buy concession fare.. (for 65 +).. and she was so shock and said.. OMG are u joking.. i am only 40s!!  I have to keep saying sorry to her.. but she just looks like my grandma...
作者: notgoddy    時間: 2008-8-22 22:33     標題: 回復 55# 的帖子

I don't quite understand you either pepsis2.
There goes a saying, poor communicators should stop communicating.
作者: pepsis2    時間: 2008-8-22 22:36

oh another example... u guys remember the HK girl (actually woman, married, like 26 year old, but only 5 ft tall) who travelled with her parents, sister, & husband oversea & got into ancar accident & all of them died but only she survived???

I remember that the great guy helped pull her (white local) from the burning car after the accident told the media that he was sooo shocked that "the little girl" got in such a terrible accident.. he mistook her as a12 - 13 year old...

Well, maybe it's b/c of her look, her height...

oh by the way, communication is always 2 ways.

[ 本帖最後由 pepsis2 於 2008-8-22 23:37 編輯 ]
作者: sheep    時間: 2008-8-23 09:48

Did you take this opportunity to not paying GST when you are buying stuff?
原帖由 pepsis2 於 2008-8-22 22:27 發表
i think most western people just can't distinguish the "older age" & "younger age" of asian ppl...esp girl...

well.. i think i look "mature" enough but still sometimes taken as pre-teen by western pe ...
作者: sheep    時間: 2008-8-23 09:54

It is all about integrity. Fair play.
You obviously have an advantage when your size is smaller.
作者: pepsis2    時間: 2008-8-23 13:26

haha... no way not to pay taxes...
作者: sheep    時間: 2008-8-24 21:14

面 係人地俾
架 係自己丟
BTW game over咯 收嗲

[ 本帖最後由 sheep 於 2008-8-24 22:16 編輯 ]
作者: daimo    時間: 2008-8-24 22:11

原帖由 siumaibb 於 2008-8-15 15:10 發表
我本人都唔鐘意共產政府，但係奧運係第二回事，奧運開幕更加係另一回事。。


exactly as what I think.



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