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作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-11-28 12:23     標題: Compu geek 報到!

ACC-HE 到!

[ 本帖最後由 ACC-HE 於 2008-11-28 13:40 編輯 ]
作者: CWong    時間: 2008-11-28 12:34

係咪我只惱有咩事都可以揾你求救?
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-11-28 12:37

原帖由 CWong 於 2008-11-28 13:34 發表
係咪我只惱有咩事都可以揾你求救?

Sure, post it up.
So are you a Comp Sci./IT人??
作者: CWong    時間: 2008-11-28 12:45

老細,係我就唔使揾你啦!
作者: siuyudim    時間: 2008-11-28 14:31

ACC-HE... u are funny..
I'm taking a comp sci course but I have no clue what's going on. Maybe you can help me? =)
作者: Hyde    時間: 2008-11-28 14:35

comp sci doesn't mean they know how to use a computer....
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-11-28 16:41

I was just asking computer geeks/ IT ppl to 報到...
作者: pkphilip    時間: 2008-11-28 19:57

It might not be a good idea.. but what the heck.. lol

Philip
作者: celeron_266    時間: 2008-11-28 20:26

what do you want...
作者: peter236    時間: 2008-11-28 20:56

原帖由 Hyde 於 2008-11-28 15:35 發表
comp sci doesn't mean they know how to use a computer....


Comeon, you know about data abstraction and objected-oriented languages?
作者: yuusaku    時間: 2008-11-28 21:03

報到
作者: Hyde    時間: 2008-11-28 22:00

原帖由 peter236 於 2008-11-28 21:56 發表


Comeon, you know about data abstraction and objected-oriented languages?


i don't and i don't give a fcuk,and  i still probably earned more money from the IT business back in high school then you'll ever earn in your life time.  
but i know ppl that grad from comp sci and doesn't even know how to connect to a wifi network in vista

作者: myversa    時間: 2008-12-2 09:23

I am a programmer and works with software development all day.  Am I considered a geek?
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-12-2 10:17

原帖由 Hyde 於 2008-11-28 23:00 發表


i don't and i don't give a fcuk,and  i still probably earned more money from the IT business back in high school then you'll ever earn in your life time.  
but i know ppl that grad from comp sci and ...


poor u....
u dont even know what is the differences between "com-sci" and "network / technical" support
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-2 11:03

Yay!  So many software developers here...
let's share share our experience.

What's the primary language you use at work?  What do you do? Games? Desktop software? Web application / development?
作者: myversa    時間: 2008-12-2 11:55

1. c#
2. programming
3. web/desktop or maintain old software such as foxpro, ...
作者: siumaibb    時間: 2008-12-2 11:56

hi!

asp.net, vb.net, web stuff
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-2 12:02

I do web stuff too, using ColdFusion & jQuery primarily.
(ya.. coldfuison.. i know... it not as bad as you think ge)

What do you guys think about frameworks? do you use any of them?

How about the the process you guys use? Agile?
Anyone practice Test Driven Development?

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作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-12-2 12:53

原帖由 ACC-HE 於 2008-12-2 13:02 發表
I do web stuff too, using ColdFusion & jQuery primarily.
(ya.. coldfuison.. i know... it not as bad as you think ge)

What do you guys think about frameworks? do you use any of them?

How about the th ...


Java Spring
hate and love the frameworks
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-2 13:03

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-12-2 13:53 發表
Java Spring
hate and love the frameworks

and hibernate?

I've heard a lot of bad things about JSP... although ColdFusion is built on top of JSP.  What's your comment on JSP?  You use Eclipse / NetBeans ?

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作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-12-2 13:06

原帖由 ACC-HE 於 2008-12-2 14:03 發表

and hibernate?

I've heard a lot of bad things about JSP... although ColdFusion is built on top of JSP.  What's your comment on JSP?  You use Eclipse / NetBeans ?


and yes, hibernate
hate them since its hard to implement AJAX with spring (I am not an expert of Sping, just a few months exp) so dumb
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-2 13:13

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-12-2 14:06 發表


and yes, hibernate
hate them since its hard to implement AJAX with spring (I am not an expert of Sping, just a few months exp) so dumb

Have you tried Groovy? I've heard a lot of good things about it, especially nice for web development.
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-12-2 13:26

原帖由 ACC-HE 於 2008-12-2 14:13 發表

Have you tried Groovy? I've heard a lot of good things about it, especially nice for web development.


looks like another framework to me... what so special? I mean, what make it outstanding?
currently I dont think I can change what I am using since I am modifying, not building from scratch....

that would be great if I can find an easy way for spring to work with ajax
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-2 14:16

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-12-2 14:26 發表


looks like another framework to me... what so special? I mean, what make it outstanding?
currently I dont think I can change what I am using since I am modifying, not building from scratch....

that ...

groovy is a JVM language, not a framework bor!
http://groovy.codehaus.org/

What problem are u having with using Spring & Ajax?
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-12-2 14:34

原帖由 ACC-HE 於 2008-12-2 15:16 發表

groovy is a JVM language, not a framework bor!
http://groovy.codehaus.org/

What problem are u having with using Spring & Ajax?


its hard to find a good tutorial with good example from google regarding to use ajax with spring, not even a simple drop-down menu or auto complete example
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-2 14:43

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-12-2 15:34 發表


its hard to find a good tutorial with good example from google regarding to use ajax with spring, not even a simple drop-down menu or auto complete example

Well, u can just ask for the page that returns JSON, and then use javascript library like jQuery or Yahoo YUI to populate the drop-down menu for you.  It shouldn't be that hard.

Good luck!
作者: yuusaku    時間: 2008-12-2 15:06

java junkie :  struts/hibernate/spring/ejb(2.x)/j2me/multi-thread/REST/SOAP
作者: chunsh    時間: 2008-12-2 15:19

原帖由 ACC-HE 於 2008-12-2 15:43 發表

Well, u can just ask for the page that returns JSON, and then use javascript library like jQuery or Yahoo YUI to populate the drop-down menu for you.  It shouldn't be that hard.

Good luck!



thanks, I will go to do some more researches
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-2 15:49

How many yrs have you guys been in the software industry?
作者: BiscottiGelato    時間: 2008-12-2 19:05

Lemme be the outcast.

Firmware/embedded programming, C/C++/Assembly. Just 2 years FT, + some co-ops.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-2 19:08

原帖由 BiscottiGelato 於 2008-12-2 20:05 發表
Lemme be the outcast.

Firmware/embedded programming, C/C++/Assembly. Just 2 years FT, + some co-ops.

cool, what kind of hardware you program against? some micro-controllers? or cellphone? CE?
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2008-12-2 19:21

woo... nearly all of you guys are programmers!
my job title is information security specialist, am I a compu geek?

I miss my old day of programming...
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-2 19:26

cool, what does a "information security specialist" do? please share.
作者: BiscottiGelato    時間: 2008-12-2 19:40

原帖由 ACC-HE 於 2008-12-2 19:08 發表

cool, what kind of hardware you program against? some micro-controllers? or cellphone? CE?


Company makes ASIC, so company's custom ASIC.
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2008-12-2 21:26

原帖由 ACC-HE 於 2008-12-3 11:26 發表
cool, what does a "information security specialist" do? please share.


security risk assessment, IT security audit, etc.
actually, not as cool as ppl think.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-2 22:09

原帖由 BiscottiGelato 於 2008-12-2 20:40 發表
Company makes ASIC, so company's custom ASIC.

cool, programing ASIC... what kind of things have u programmed them to do?
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-2 22:11

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2008-12-2 22:26 發表 security risk assessment, IT security audit, etc.
actually, not as cool as ppl think.

Are you familiar with PCI DSS?

Do you audit software security? or hardware/network security? or both?
作者: BiscottiGelato    時間: 2008-12-2 22:41

原帖由 ACC-HE 於 2008-12-2 22:09 發表

cool, programing ASIC... what kind of things have u programmed them to do?


Stuff to do with SAS/SCSI/SATA storage protocols, topology management, etc.
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2008-12-2 23:21

原帖由 ACC-HE 於 2008-12-3 14:11 發表

Are you familiar with PCI DSS?

Do you audit software security? or hardware/network security? or both?


No, I don't have any experience in dealing with the PCI DSS.
Security risk assessment involves software, network and environment. Actually, it involves many areas.

Too bad that I need to review lots of source codes of different web applications, 睇到人都癲.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-2 23:28

原帖由 BiscottiGelato 於 2008-12-2 23:41 發表


Stuff to do with SAS/SCSI/SATA storage protocols, topology management, etc.

That's amazing!  What background do you have to land you a job like this?  You must be $$$$!
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-2 23:29

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2008-12-3 00:21 發表


No, I don't have any experience in dealing with the PCI DSS.
Security risk assessment involves software, network and environment. Actually, it involves many areas.

Too bad that I need to review lot ...

wow, read source code!?! Really?? wow.

So... do you give advices to insecure code?  Also hack against firewall and stuff?
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2008-12-3 00:18

原帖由 ACC-HE 於 2008-12-3 15:29 發表
wow, read source code!?! Really?? wow.
So... do you give advices to insecure code?  Also hack against firewall and stuff?


I am not kidding... read source code! yes, read source code! I can't believe it too!
it is really crazy when someone gives me a tar ball of source code (include some library files) which is larger then 100Mb.
by the way, we usually do penetration tests (I am a paid hacker) that includes various appliance and servers and networks. my job is quite funny.
作者: MyOMy    時間: 2008-12-3 00:31

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2008-12-3 01:18 發表


I am not kidding... read source code! yes, read source code! I can't believe it too!
it is really crazy when someone gives me a tar ball of source code (include some library files) which is larger t ...


MC哥係唔係幫啲 有良廠商 破觧人哋啲 firmware, software ? 咁咪係 Software Reverse Engineer.
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2008-12-3 00:42

原帖由 MyOMy 於 2008-12-3 16:31 發表
MC哥係唔係幫啲 有良廠商 破觧人哋啲 firmware, software ? 咁咪係 Software Reverse Engineer.

唔係, 呢個唔係我既工作範圍.
作者: MyOMy    時間: 2008-12-3 01:00

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2008-12-3 01:42 發表

唔係, 呢個唔係我既工作範圍.


咁冷门, 比 geek 仲要 geek, 唔使驚金融海嘯 MOTOROLA 。
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-3 01:20

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2008-12-3 01:18 發表


I am not kidding... read source code! yes, read source code! I can't believe it too!
it is really crazy when someone gives me a tar ball of source code (include some library files) which is larger t ...

cool, what did you do to land yourself a job like that?
but reading 100mb of code? how's that possible?  You really reading them?  Did you catch anything?
作者: BiscottiGelato    時間: 2008-12-3 08:36

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2008-12-3 00:42 發表

唔係, 呢個唔係我既工作範圍.


I guess work in places equivilent to labs that do FIPS certification assessment or other kinds of security certifications?
作者: myversa    時間: 2008-12-3 08:46

原帖由 ACC-HE 於 2008-12-2 16:49 發表
How many yrs have you guys been in the software industry?


All my life... my first language was basic in dos environment..

but I started to work about 7 years ago...
作者: BiscottiGelato    時間: 2008-12-3 09:32

原帖由 ACC-HE 於 2008-12-2 23:28 發表

That's amazing!  What background do you have to land you a job like this?  You must be $$$$!


Background? SFU Engineering law.... -____-

I still touch codes, so I still make peon pay.....
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-3 11:01

原帖由 BiscottiGelato 於 2008-12-3 10:32 發表


Background? SFU Engineering law.... -____-

I still touch codes, so I still make peon pay.....

Electrical Engineering?
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-3 11:25

Anyone here has a LinkedIn account?
作者: daimo    時間: 2008-12-3 11:38

原帖由 BiscottiGelato 於 2008-12-3 10:32 發表


Background? SFU Engineering law.... -____-

I still touch codes, so I still make peon pay.....


being a peon, and peon pay are not necessary bad things.  consider it's an advantage for job security in these laid-off seasons.  Think about that: the people who make double your pay and don't touch code might have double the chance to be axed.



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作者: BiscottiGelato    時間: 2008-12-3 13:09

原帖由 ACC-HE 於 2008-12-3 11:01 發表

Electrical Engineering?


SFU pretty much only do electronics/electronics related Eng stuff ar.
作者: BiscottiGelato    時間: 2008-12-3 13:13

原帖由 daimo 於 2008-12-3 11:38 發表


being a peon, and peon pay are not necessary bad things.  consider it's an advantage for job security in these laid-off seasons.  Think about that: the people who make double your pay and don't touc ...


I dunno.. for my company, adjusted to the percentage of workforce that's management and peon, I'd say the layoff chance is abt the same.

Peon: "Work, work", "Something need doing?" "Be happy to..."
作者: daimo    時間: 2008-12-3 13:13

原帖由 ACC-HE 於 2008-12-3 12:25 發表
Anyone here has a LinkedIn account?


I do, but I don't see the purpose other than letting people your identity and where you work.

the thing is, are you going to "poke" people whom you don't know or rarely contact for new opportunity?  I personally can't/won't do it.

it's like facebook for IT; but for job hunting, monster is still the king.  (t-net is next)
作者: daimo    時間: 2008-12-3 13:20

原帖由 BiscottiGelato 於 2008-12-3 14:13 發表


I dunno.. for my company, adjusted to the percentage of workforce that's management and peon, I'd say the layoff chance is abt the same.

Peon: "Work, work", "Something need doing?" "Be happy to..." ...


trust me on that one ... managers have much higher chance to be axed. when the CFO jumps, the company shakes.  it's the total salary cut the CFO is looking for.  it's far easier to have 1 manager to do 2 managers job than having 1 programmer to do 2 programmers job.

of course, if your project isn't profitable then it's a different story.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-3 13:30

原帖由 daimo 於 2008-12-3 14:13 發表


I do, but I don't see the purpose other than letting people your identity and where you work.

the thing is, are you going to "poke" people whom you don't know or rarely contact for new opportunity? ...

I'm not sure what it is for either... I guess for developers to come together, networking, etc...?
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-3 13:48

What is the most interesting part of your job?

What is the hardest part of your job?

Which part of your job you enjoy the most?
作者: daimo    時間: 2008-12-3 14:33

What is the most interesting part of your job?

when I get paid

What is the hardest part of your job?

when people whine

Which part of your job you enjoy the most?

Friday after 5 on my way home and it is a payday.
作者: BiscottiGelato    時間: 2008-12-3 14:35

原帖由 daimo 於 2008-12-3 13:20 發表


trust me on that one ... managers have much higher chance to be axed. when the CFO jumps, the company shakes.  it's the total salary cut the CFO is looking for.  it's far easier to have 1 manager to ...


I still rather be manager than peon, but anyways LOL
作者: BiscottiGelato    時間: 2008-12-3 14:37

What is the most interesting part of your job?
>> Pay cheque, bonus, stock issuance, etc...

What is the hardest part of your job?
>> Being motivated by the job... travelling to sh_tty destination for the job... OTing for the job... going in weekends for the job... etc.

Which part of your job you enjoy the most?
>> None really... When getting paid or when leaving work maybe...
作者: yuusaku    時間: 2008-12-3 21:22

原帖由 ACC-HE 於 2008-12-3 12:25 發表
Anyone here has a LinkedIn account?


PMed you.
作者: yuusaku    時間: 2008-12-3 21:27

What is the most interesting part of your job?
>>>software development itself is fun.

What is the hardest part of your job?
>>>business requirements > everything

when people whine
>>>no ppl whine in my company

Which part of your job you enjoy the most?
>>>no micromanagement, as long as i get the job done
作者: B2L2    時間: 2008-12-4 11:24

I don't consider I'm any compu geek for long, but anyway I do programming my whole life.  C#, C++ and all sort of script languages are I'm using these days.  And I do games.

What's most interesting?  Endless though problem to solve.  Hardness part? Superb tight deadline.  Enjoy most?  Very cool people to work with and learn from them.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-4 12:27

Cool, B2L2, sounds like you have had a lot of experience.  So what kind of project are you working on currently?  What are some of the most interesting projects you have worked on?
作者: B2L2    時間: 2008-12-4 14:06

What am I working on?  From in house artist application, to fighting for couple milliseconds execution time.

Interesting past projects?  Photoshop/Illustrator plugin that I could find illegal copies selling at HK.    3D video streaming turned out used in some porn sites.     And all the shipped or canned games that I worked on.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-4 14:13

Amazing!

So which site used your 3d video streaming?   What 3d video format?  field sequential 3D? or the red/blue kind?  Did you license your technology to them? or..?

How many years have you been in the industry?

I bet you're super good in math, right?

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作者: B2L2    時間: 2008-12-5 10:40

3D porn was just a gimmick and it never sell well before I left that job.  And of course it is obsolete now since who still have a CRT these days.  Those wouldn't work on LCD.  The codec is proprietary by the company.  My work is just getting the streaming work on media player and realaudio player.  Works for both red/blue and interlace.  I still have few pairs of those shuttle glass around.

How many years I worked?  The above project was before the DotNet bubble burst, and that wasn't my first job.  You count.  
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-5 10:54

@B2L2, guess what, my Samsung plasma hdtv supports 3D with wireless shutter glasses!  

http://www.tridef.com/home.html

If you (or anyone here) interested, you're welcome to PM me and checkout my setup.  I have some 3D games that works with the glasses.  It is kindda cool!

Do you have any interlaced 3D video still?  May I borrow?
作者: B2L2    時間: 2008-12-5 12:09

Really, wireless shuttle glass on HDTV..  amazing.

Then do you have antique tape drive to recover some backup DAT?  LOL.  I actually don't know where I put them already.
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2008-12-5 14:15

原帖由 B2L2 於 2008-12-5 13:09 發表
Really, wireless shuttle glass on HDTV..  amazing.

Then do you have antique tape drive to recover some backup DAT?  LOL.  I actually don't know where I put them already.

oh man~! Ya.. there are only very limited titles in DVD today that has sequential fields 3d.  Here's a list: http://www.3dmovielist.com/3ddvds.html
作者: aiqingccn    時間: 2009-2-20 10:04     標題: 不错喔

感觉LZ说话很有水平哇...不错.不错
作者: ACC-HE    時間: 2009-2-20 10:36

原帖由 aiqingccn 於 2009-2-20 11:04 發表
感觉LZ说话很有水平哇...不错.不错

LZ?
作者: aiqingccn    時間: 2009-2-23 23:15     標題: 来过来过

爱情永远是个永恒的话题,最近失恋了,来逛逛,散散心。
作者: myversa    時間: 2009-2-24 08:31

another ads?

what's love got to do with computer geeks?




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